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| 05:50 DanFrincu | kd926: yes |
| 05:52 DanFrincu | the only thing is that NFS isn't used to put the fs on the local disk |
| 05:52 DanFrincu | so no deps on NFS |
| 05:53 DanFrincu | and the image is actually copied to RAM and runs from there |
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| 07:04 M`cc` | DanFrincu: that sounds cool, do you have a howto about it? |
| 07:04 DanFrincu | no .. |
| 07:05 M`cc` | do you use a large initrd or get the ramdisk image from somewhere else? |
| 07:06 DanFrincu | wget for bootstrapfs and configspace => load into RAM => extract configspace to disk |
| 07:06 DanFrincu | and the rest is just the same |
| 07:06 M`cc` | wow |
| 07:07 M`cc` | how hard is it to upgrade to new FAI versions or new distributions? |
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| 11:11 kd926 | glance: Would you be willing to show your implementation details |
| 11:21 glance | http://pastebin.com/bQ4xdw5n |
| 11:23 glance | M`cc`: its not hard to do "regular" fai upgrades, sometimes in the switch between setup-disks and setup-storage it was a bit of work, but nothing hard. Its less work than the initial fai-setup. |
| 11:24 glance | M`cc`: and upgrade between dists and dist-versions, is mot more work than it is to upgrade the systems. I just test installing a new dist with the old fai-tree and then update whatever have changed. |
| 11:25 sneumann | hi, sorry if this is slightly off topic: is anyone here with HP Proliants ? |
| 11:25 sneumann | I am trying to get HP SMH working for the p410i controller, everything else works already. |
| 11:28 kd926 | Has anyone heard of any work trying to couple what FAI does with OpenStack? |
| 11:32 glance | sneumann: we use hp cciss controllers quite extensivly , but no web interfaces. |
| 11:32 glance | sneumann: we just use hpacucli |
| 11:34 sneumann | Thanks glance, the p410i works fine under hpacucli. but for the HP SIM we'd need working hp-snmp-agents |
| 11:34 sneumann | We have 8.50 under Ubuntu 11.04, which doesn't work, and some 8.70 under SLES 10.3 which do work. |
| 11:35 sneumann | Ubuntu is using the hpsa module, while SLES has the cciss module. HP docs say, hpsa should support our configuration and SNMP- |
| 11:36 sneumann | glance, do you have a message "SAS agent (cmasasd) does not find any supported SAS controller" in /var/log/hp-snmp-agents/cma.log ? |
| 11:36 glance | we don't use hp-snmp |
| 11:36 glance | we just use hpacucli with a perl wrapper who checks the health |
| 11:37 DanFrincu | kd926: no, but there's aeolusproject.org that tries to link up machine deployment with clouds |
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| 11:39 kd926 | DanFrincu: Thanks. I guess my thought was to have some sort of provisioning service using the same methods as FAI |
| 11:39 kd926 | although I guess its easily accomplished as-is |
| 11:39 kd926 | "easily" |
| 11:41 DanFrincu | yeah |
| 11:41 DanFrincu | anyone tried to deploy ubuntu 10.04 with fai |
| 11:41 DanFrincu | ? |
| 11:47 kd926 | I'll be trying my luck with RHEL later today... |
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| 12:02 glance | DanFrincu: doing it all the time. |
| 12:04 DanFrincu | glance: making any custom packages as well or just using the ones from the repos? |
| 12:04 glance | we have our "site" repo with our own packages. |
| 12:04 glance | with packages like tsm, gpfs, openafs and so on.. |
| 12:05 DanFrincu | did you have to work with gconftool-2 in any of these packages to get stuff into the target system (while it's in chroot) and worked? |
| 12:06 glance | nop. nothing using gconf. |
| 12:06 DanFrincu | just my luck :) |
| 12:06 glance | our desktops is pritty "plain" ubuntu. |
| 12:06 DanFrincu | encountered any issues with Upstart? |
| 12:07 DanFrincu | while installing packages? |
| 12:07 glance | some, but no showstoppers |
| 12:07 glance | currently im looking at a bug with some "intresting" sideeffects. |
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| 12:08 glance | isc-dhcp starts from sysV scripts, and when you start having 10 interfaces in a machine, all of them haven't come up yet when the sysV-part of upstart starts isc-dhcp |
| 12:09 DanFrincu | oh, this is a classic example |
| 12:09 glance | yepp... |
| 12:10 DanFrincu | just like setting the networking init script run before the one which umounts a NFS share |
| 12:10 DanFrincu | and then you wait for it to timeout because the network is already down : |
| 12:10 DanFrincu | :) |
| 12:11 DanFrincu | no, my problem was (and still is) using gnome-panel-add.py to add a launcher to the desktop of the user from the chroot (it runs as the postinstall of the deb) |
| 12:11 glance | one of the major bugs i found with upstart was the inability to start portmap and rstatd when having /var on a separate filesystem. it was quite easy to workaround when knowning that /var is _always_ a separate filesystem, but it took caonical like one year to produce a propper fix for that one. |
| 12:11 DanFrincu | and this normally works fine, but in chroot all sorts of hacks were required .. thought someone might have run into this before |
| 12:12 glance | which package? |
| 12:12 DanFrincu | custom |
| 12:13 glance | then modify your custom package to run at the first "real" boot then? |
| 12:14 glance | we install a "postinst" startup script which runs lots of diffrent scripts at the first "real" boot after install. Does things like keying for gpfs and so on. |
| 12:16 DanFrincu | yeah, that makes sense |
| 12:16 DanFrincu | I actually had used that when deploying RHEL |
| 12:17 DanFrincu | a script that ran from /etc/rc.local |
| 12:17 DanFrincu | but the deployment was not done through fai, I used kickstart then |
| 12:29 DanFrincu | glance: do you preinstall flashplugin-installer on the ubuntu 10.04 deployments? |
| 12:29 glance | yepp |
| 12:30 DanFrincu | and the hosts have direct internet access then? |
| 12:30 glance | if you have a afs-client you can have a look at our fai-repo at file:///afs/hpc2n.umu.se/public/svn/fai |
| 12:30 glance | yepp. everything here have a public ip |
| 12:31 DanFrincu | hehe |
| 12:31 DanFrincu | I'm rebuilding flashplugin because of this |
| 12:33 DanFrincu | no, I don't have an afs-client |
| 12:36 glance | hmm.. looks like there are some support for pre-seeding a path to a allready downloaded file with db flashplugin-installer/local |
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