[00:01] _julian_ (~quassel@hmbg-4d06dcf1.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #fai. [00:09] _julian (~quassel@hmbg-5f761cc1.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [00:59] _julian (~quassel@hmbg-4d06cb33.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #fai. [01:06] _julian_ (~quassel@hmbg-4d06dcf1.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [03:59] sneumann (~sneumann@pD95557E4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #fai. [04:12] sneumann (~sneumann@pD95557E4.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [05:22] sneumann (~sneumann@router-sub.ipb-halle.de) joined #fai. [05:50] kd926: yes [05:52] the only thing is that NFS isn't used to put the fs on the local disk [05:52] so no deps on NFS [05:53] and the image is actually copied to RAM and runs from there [06:42] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [07:04] DanFrincu: that sounds cool, do you have a howto about it? [07:04] no .. [07:05] do you use a large initrd or get the ramdisk image from somewhere else? [07:06] wget for bootstrapfs and configspace => load into RAM => extract configspace to disk [07:06] and the rest is just the same [07:06] wow [07:07] how hard is it to upgrade to new FAI versions or new distributions? [07:15] verwilst (~verwilst@router.begen1.office.netnoc.eu) joined #fai. [10:22] rhce7320 (~rhce7320@ndl-nlos-196-12-13.52.iconnect.zm) joined #fai. [11:04] rhce7320 (~rhce7320@ndl-nlos-196-12-13.52.iconnect.zm) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [11:11] glance: Would you be willing to show your implementation details [11:21] http://pastebin.com/bQ4xdw5n [11:23] M`cc`: its not hard to do "regular" fai upgrades, sometimes in the switch between setup-disks and setup-storage it was a bit of work, but nothing hard. Its less work than the initial fai-setup. [11:24] M`cc`: and upgrade between dists and dist-versions, is mot more work than it is to upgrade the systems. I just test installing a new dist with the old fai-tree and then update whatever have changed. [11:25] hi, sorry if this is slightly off topic: is anyone here with HP Proliants ? [11:25] I am trying to get HP SMH working for the p410i controller, everything else works already. [11:28] Has anyone heard of any work trying to couple what FAI does with OpenStack? [11:32] sneumann: we use hp cciss controllers quite extensivly , but no web interfaces. [11:32] sneumann: we just use hpacucli [11:34] Thanks glance, the p410i works fine under hpacucli. but for the HP SIM we'd need working hp-snmp-agents [11:34] We have 8.50 under Ubuntu 11.04, which doesn't work, and some 8.70 under SLES 10.3 which do work. [11:35] Ubuntu is using the hpsa module, while SLES has the cciss module. HP docs say, hpsa should support our configuration and SNMP- [11:36] glance, do you have a message "SAS agent (cmasasd) does not find any supported SAS controller" in /var/log/hp-snmp-agents/cma.log ? [11:36] we don't use hp-snmp [11:36] we just use hpacucli with a perl wrapper who checks the health [11:37] kd926: no, but there's aeolusproject.org that tries to link up machine deployment with clouds [11:37] fimblo (~fimblo@kaki.office.spotify.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:39] DanFrincu: Thanks. I guess my thought was to have some sort of provisioning service using the same methods as FAI [11:39] although I guess its easily accomplished as-is [11:39] "easily" [11:41] yeah [11:41] anyone tried to deploy ubuntu 10.04 with fai [11:41] ? [11:47] I'll be trying my luck with RHEL later today... [11:54] fimblo (~fimblo@kaki.office.spotify.net) joined #fai. [12:02] DanFrincu: doing it all the time. [12:04] glance: making any custom packages as well or just using the ones from the repos? [12:04] we have our "site" repo with our own packages. [12:04] with packages like tsm, gpfs, openafs and so on.. [12:05] did you have to work with gconftool-2 in any of these packages to get stuff into the target system (while it's in chroot) and worked? [12:06] nop. nothing using gconf. [12:06] just my luck :) [12:06] our desktops is pritty "plain" ubuntu. [12:06] encountered any issues with Upstart? [12:07] while installing packages? [12:07] some, but no showstoppers [12:07] currently im looking at a bug with some "intresting" sideeffects. [12:08] fimblo (~fimblo@kaki.office.spotify.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [12:08] isc-dhcp starts from sysV scripts, and when you start having 10 interfaces in a machine, all of them haven't come up yet when the sysV-part of upstart starts isc-dhcp [12:09] oh, this is a classic example [12:09] yepp... [12:10] just like setting the networking init script run before the one which umounts a NFS share [12:10] and then you wait for it to timeout because the network is already down : [12:10] :) [12:11] no, my problem was (and still is) using gnome-panel-add.py to add a launcher to the desktop of the user from the chroot (it runs as the postinstall of the deb) [12:11] one of the major bugs i found with upstart was the inability to start portmap and rstatd when having /var on a separate filesystem. it was quite easy to workaround when knowning that /var is _always_ a separate filesystem, but it took caonical like one year to produce a propper fix for that one. [12:11] and this normally works fine, but in chroot all sorts of hacks were required .. thought someone might have run into this before [12:12] which package? [12:12] custom [12:13] then modify your custom package to run at the first "real" boot then? [12:14] we install a "postinst" startup script which runs lots of diffrent scripts at the first "real" boot after install. Does things like keying for gpfs and so on. [12:16] yeah, that makes sense [12:16] I actually had used that when deploying RHEL [12:17] a script that ran from /etc/rc.local [12:17] but the deployment was not done through fai, I used kickstart then [12:29] glance: do you preinstall flashplugin-installer on the ubuntu 10.04 deployments? [12:29] yepp [12:30] and the hosts have direct internet access then? [12:30] if you have a afs-client you can have a look at our fai-repo at file:///afs/hpc2n.umu.se/public/svn/fai [12:30] yepp. everything here have a public ip [12:31] hehe [12:31] I'm rebuilding flashplugin because of this [12:33] no, I don't have an afs-client [12:36] hmm.. looks like there are some support for pre-seeding a path to a allready downloaded file with db flashplugin-installer/local [12:47] sneumann (~sneumann@router-sub.ipb-halle.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [12:55] fimblo (~fimblo@kaki.office.spotify.net) joined #fai. [13:23] fimblo (~fimblo@kaki.office.spotify.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:30] fimblo (~fimblo@kaki.office.spotify.net) joined #fai. 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