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09:15 Ahmtahgood morning
09:20 Ahmtahhttp://paste.debian.net/119091
09:20 Ahmtahhttp://paste.debian.net/119092
09:21 Ahmtahabove sources.list, and fai.list
09:26 M`cc`_you left out main section from sources.list
09:27 M`cc`_are you familiar with how debian/ubuntu repositories work and what's in the different sections?
09:27 M`cc`_if not yet, now would be a good time to read the manual
09:28 AhmtahOk before I used main, universe.  But doesn't work well
09:29 oz__Ahmtah: your system does not install a kernel right know, right?
09:30 Ahmtahyes for Ubuntu, but before was OK for Debian
09:30 oz__Ahmtah: remember what \sh remarked yesterday?
09:30 oz__16:00 < \sh> Ahmtah, wrong linux-image package (on ubuntu it's named  linux-image not linux-image-486) package linux-client is not in  your package source etc. fix
09:31 oz__get a clue what is going on, and soon you'll be able to fix these errors yourself
09:32 Ahmtahoz_ could I find configuration space files for Ubuntu at FAI site
09:33 oz__no
09:33 oz__Ahmtah: plz do as suggested, and don't ask for ready-mady config files
09:33 Ahmtahthnx
09:35 oz__so, the question for you know is:
09:35 oz__how dfo I get a kernel in my ubuntu-config?
09:35 oz__s/dfo/do/
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10:20 AhmtahI did change the DEFAULT to include good Ubuntu packages, but no booting after reboot
10:20 oz__11:35 < oz__> how dfo I get a kernel in my ubuntu-config?
10:21 Ahmtahfcopy I think
10:22 oz__no.
10:22 oz__11:31 < oz__> 16:00 < \sh> Ahmtah, wrong linux-image package (on ubuntu it's  named  linux-image not linux-image-486) package linux-client is  not in  your package source etc.
10:23 oz__Ahmtah: plz read and _understand_ what ppl say to you.
10:23 Ahmtahtrust me oz__ I did
10:23 oz__if you ignore these infos, any discussion with you is useless
10:23 Ahmtahedited linux-image and other packages on DEFAULT
10:24 oz__Ahmtah: trust ME that I can proove that you don't
10:24 Ahmtahand my fai.log now is different
10:24 oz__but don't let us to go deeper into that just continue
10:24 oz__you need to fix your list of packages which are installed.
10:25 Ahmtahfai.log shows me problem of GPG
10:26 oz__Ahmtah: you have many other errors, yes
10:26 oz__fix one by one
10:26 oz__and try to understand what you are doing
10:27 oz__I go for lunch now
10:28 Ahmtahbon appetit
10:30 Ahmtahthis my log
10:30 Ahmtahhttp://paste.debian.net/119100/
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11:21 oz__re
11:21 oz__Ahmtah: and what is your question?
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11:45 Ahmtahmy /etc/apt/sources.list, and /srv/fai/config/package_config/DEFAULT are good
11:45 Ahmtahoz__: I have GPG problem during installation.
11:46 oz__13:21 < oz__> Ahmtah: and what is your question?
11:50 Ahmtahhow can I install the key for Ubuntu
11:52 Ahmtahhttp://paste.debian.net/119106/
11:53 oz__lmgtfy...
11:54 oz__http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.fai/8800
11:54 oz__http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=387165
11:54 oz__Ahmtah: can you use the info?
11:55 Ahmtahok
11:55 oz__but, if you look closer
11:55 oz__it's not your main problem, I think
11:55 Ahmtahaha
11:55 oz__you don't have a kernel now in your install client, right?
11:55 oz__that why I beg to to read the documentation yourself
11:56 oz__you need to understand what you're doing
11:56 oz__on windows, you can click around and with some luck thing run
11:56 oz__but not with FAI, believe me
11:56 Ahmtahyes, but now it is Linux world
11:57 AhmtahI agree
11:57 oz__so, relax and learn.
11:57 oz__and again:
11:57 oz__12:23 < oz__> 11:31 < oz__> 16:00 < \sh> Ahmtah, wrong linux-image package (on  ubuntu it's  named  linux-image not linux-image-486) package  linux-client is  not in  your package source etc.
11:57 oz__at least this part, you're completely ignorant of
11:58 oz__imho
11:58 oz__but with no kernel - no boot
11:58 oz__even if you have the most beautiful gpg key in your repository
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12:02 telmich_moin moin
Action: oz__ moins back
12:04 telmich_did anyone of you try/succeed in running fai on archlinux?
12:04 telmich_and did anyone try/succeed running fai without a nfs server?
12:04 telmich_we're currently having heavy discussions about the future of installation management at the eth zurich, scaling up to different linux distros, etc.
12:05 oz__telmich_: I put FAI on a USB stick and found that quit nice
12:05 mikapit *should* be doable using the fetch=... option, but: never tried it with FAI on my own
12:06 mikapfetch=.... from live-boot/live-initramfs, ftr
12:06 oz__but that's long ago
12:06 oz__telmich_: you want to get rid of nfs @ eth?
12:08 Mrfaitelmich_: FAI can also installal CentOS and Scientific Linux Cern 5 and 6. So archlinux should be doable. Currently FAI does not have support for pacman, but extending this part of FAI is mostly doable in 10 lines of perl code.
12:18 telmich_oz__: -nfs because we plan do to installations in the internet as well
12:19 telmich_Mrfai: alright
12:19 telmich_we're mostly thinking about this issue in a bigger approach, because of the idea to try to reuse installers
12:20 telmich_something we like very much about fai is abstracting the ugly partitioning scheme seen otherwise (like preseed) -- this is probably gonna be a longer discussion inside
12:20 oz__telmich_: I thought it should be possible to replace nfs \l http or so
12:21 telmich_oz__: is also an interesting approach
12:33 mikap.oO(and since archlinux doesn't sign its packages - IIRC - the installation part is even 2 lines shorter ;)) SCNR
12:56 Kingluihi, after installing the new live-boot (3.0~a16) and set "ipappend 2", the client tries to connect to 0.0.0.0, so the netboot get an timeout. Perhaps i shold set some variables in FAI?
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13:10 mikapKinglui: what's 0.0.0.0 pointing to? can you cat the file?
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13:48 Ahmtahso i had edited config space to install Ubuntu
13:49 Ahmtahseems FAI is diffecul to customize and optimize
13:51 oz__Ahmtah: installations system are "the holy grail" in Software installs, somewhat
13:51 oz__that's why I repeatedly asked you to read the documentation
13:51 oz__if you don't understand what you're doing, nothing will work
13:52 Ahmtahin fact I had done what mentioned in the FAI guide
13:52 oz__your sentence assumes that you understood everything in it
13:53 oz__yet, can you tell me if you install client has a kernel, or not?
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13:54 Ahmtahno kernel at mu install client
13:54 oz__see.
13:54 Ahmtahand this is the new fai.log
13:54 oz__and you did not even ask one time "what can I do to put a kernel on my install client"
13:55 oz__then you box would boot up at least
13:55 Ahmtahhttp://paste.debian.net/119100
13:55 oz__it will not be installed correctly, yet
13:55 oz__stop pasting these logs...
13:55 AhmtahI used linux-image
13:55 AhmtahOK dear
13:56 Ahmtahwhat can I do to put a kernel on my Ubuntu install client
13:58 oz__13:57 < oz__> 12:23 < oz__> 11:31 < oz__> 16:00 < \sh> Ahmtah, wrong  linux-image package (on  ubuntu it's  named  linux-image not  linux-image-486) package  linux-client is  not in  your package  source
13:59 oz__you have linux-image in one of the software lists?
13:59 oz__ERROR: chroot /target aptitude -R -y -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confdef" -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" install linux-image memtest86+ dhcp3-client grub-pc grub- lilo- fai-c
14:00 oz__lient cfengine2 cron debconf-utils file hdparm jove less linuxlogo nfs-common nscd rdate rsync openssh-client openssh-server strace tcsh time procinfo exim4 eject locales console-c
14:00 oz__ommon pciutils usbutils lvm2 return code 255
14:00 oz__you don't have aptitude in you basefiles.
14:00 oz__I think we fixed that last week already?
14:02 oz__you have a file $fai/package_config/UBUNTU1010 ?
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14:06 Ahmtahno, we didn't mention this
14:06 oz__"we"?
14:06 Ahmtahwe only used --include=aptitude
14:06 oz__you have to use a more exact language
14:07 oz__then we can be a lot faster
14:07 Ahmtahand I used with debootstrap
14:07 oz__Ahmtah: don't incorrect
14:08 oz__--include=aptitude and --exclude=info
14:08 oz__can you use a shell on you install client after the installation attempt?
14:08 Ahmtahyes I used the shell
14:10 oz__okay. now we check if your client really has aptitude:
14:10 oz__do the following in the shell: "chroot /target"
14:10 oz__then: "which aptitude"
14:10 oz__what does the system reply?
14:11 oz__and honestly...this is NOT the intention of this # to help with such "basic" problems
14:11 oz__if you use FAI you should know that already.
14:12 oz__that's stated in the Documentation, too. :)
14:13 telmich_did you ever think about making setup-storage its own project?
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14:13 Ahmtahit is /usr/bin/aptitude
14:14 oz__fine
14:14 oz__you did "chroot /target" before, did you?
14:14 Ahmtahyes
14:14 oz__now do "exit"
14:15 AhmtahI did exit
14:15 oz__and again "which aptitude"
14:16 Ahmtahit is /usr/bin/aptitude
14:16 oz__same?
14:17 Ahmtahyes
14:17 mikaptelmich: it's available as separate package nowadays
14:17 oz__good, then so far
14:18 oz__do "mount --bind /dev /target/dev"
14:18 oz__then "chroot /target" again
14:19 telmichmikap: do you have a hint on where to find its homepages
14:19 telmichs/s$/?/
14:19 mikaptelmich: *package* not *project*
14:20 AhmtahI did
14:21 oz__Ahmtah: then do "mount -a"
14:21 oz__what does the system reply?
14:24 Ahmtahat the chroot
14:24 Ahmtahappears warning
14:24 oz__can you be more exact?
14:25 oz__paste the output to paste.debian.net
14:25 oz__and again. normally this is not what the channel is intended for
14:25 AhmtahMount: /dev/sda9 already Mounted or /home busy
14:27 Ahmtahhttp://paste.debian.net/119118/
14:30 oz__Ahmtah: don't care.
14:30 oz__what does "mount" tell you?
14:30 Ahmtah?
14:30 oz__see...
14:30 oz__I'm getting tired of this.
14:31 Ahmtahwarning: can't open /etc/mtab: No such file or directory
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14:35 oz__Ahmtah: now.
14:35 Ahmtahwarning: can't open /etc/mtab: No such file or directory
14:36 oz__try to run "apt-get install linux-image"
14:36 mikap /proc isn't mounted
14:36 oz__mikap: if that makes problems do "mount /proc"
14:36 mikapnot me, Ahmtah
14:37 oz__mikap: :)
14:37 oz__mikap: do you think my support attempt is sensible?
14:37 Ahmtahapt-get install linux-image works well and I pressed y y
14:38 mikapoz__: i tend to put both of you into /ignore, is that enough of an answer? ;)
14:38 Ahmtah that is appear $ Configuring grub-pc
14:39 oz__mikap: :-D
14:40 oz__Ahmtah: I think the kernel is about to be installed
14:42 AhmtahIt is installed with GRUB
14:42 Ahmtahplease believe me that I edited DEFAULT to use linux-image
14:43 oz__Ahmtah: please believe ME that YOU should have read some more docu
14:43 oz__now do "umount -a"
14:43 oz__exit, reset the client
14:44 oz__something will boot now
14:45 Ahmtahno boot
14:45 oz__what happens?
14:46 Ahmtahand now after another attempt it appears
14:46 AhmtahUbuntu 10.10  Ubuntu tty1 ubuntu login: :)
14:47 oz__Ahmtah: that's your boot
14:47 oz__and I put you on ignore now, too. read docu until you can ask proper questions here.
14:48 Ahmtah:)
14:48 Ahmtahyou know that I used the same in DEFAULT --> linux-image
14:48 AhmtahI need it automatic
15:46 Ahmtahtrying more and more
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