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[09:15] good morning [09:20] http://paste.debian.net/119091 [09:20] http://paste.debian.net/119092 [09:21] above sources.list, and fai.list [09:26] you left out main section from sources.list [09:27] are you familiar with how debian/ubuntu repositories work and what's in the different sections? [09:27] if not yet, now would be a good time to read the manual [09:28] Ok before I used main, universe. But doesn't work well [09:29] Ahmtah: your system does not install a kernel right know, right? [09:30] yes for Ubuntu, but before was OK for Debian [09:30] Ahmtah: remember what \sh remarked yesterday? [09:30] 16:00 < \sh> Ahmtah, wrong linux-image package (on ubuntu it's named linux-image not linux-image-486) package linux-client is not in your package source etc. fix [09:31] get a clue what is going on, and soon you'll be able to fix these errors yourself [09:32] oz_ could I find configuration space files for Ubuntu at FAI site [09:33] no [09:33] Ahmtah: plz do as suggested, and don't ask for ready-mady config files [09:33] thnx [09:35] so, the question for you know is: [09:35] how dfo I get a kernel in my ubuntu-config? [09:35] s/dfo/do/ [10:01] \sh (~shermann@nat.de.netviewer.com) joined #fai. [10:20] I did change the DEFAULT to include good Ubuntu packages, but no booting after reboot [10:20] 11:35 < oz__> how dfo I get a kernel in my ubuntu-config? [10:21] fcopy I think [10:22] no. [10:22] 11:31 < oz__> 16:00 < \sh> Ahmtah, wrong linux-image package (on ubuntu it's named linux-image not linux-image-486) package linux-client is not in your package source etc. [10:23] Ahmtah: plz read and _understand_ what ppl say to you. [10:23] trust me oz__ I did [10:23] if you ignore these infos, any discussion with you is useless [10:23] edited linux-image and other packages on DEFAULT [10:24] Ahmtah: trust ME that I can proove that you don't [10:24] and my fai.log now is different [10:24] but don't let us to go deeper into that just continue [10:24] you need to fix your list of packages which are installed. [10:25] fai.log shows me problem of GPG [10:26] Ahmtah: you have many other errors, yes [10:26] fix one by one [10:26] and try to understand what you are doing [10:27] I go for lunch now [10:28] bon appetit [10:30] this my log [10:30] http://paste.debian.net/119100/ [10:33] ErKa (keryell@m3.wifi.enstb.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [11:21] re [11:21] Ahmtah: and what is your question? [11:35] esto_ (~finisterr@164.Red-83-35-75.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [11:42] Nick change: Guest3704 -> msantana [11:43] esto (~finisterr@164.Red-83-35-75.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined #fai. [11:45] my /etc/apt/sources.list, and /srv/fai/config/package_config/DEFAULT are good [11:45] oz__: I have GPG problem during installation. [11:46] 13:21 < oz__> Ahmtah: and what is your question? [11:50] how can I install the key for Ubuntu [11:52] http://paste.debian.net/119106/ [11:53] lmgtfy... [11:54] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.fai/8800 [11:54] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=387165 [11:54] Ahmtah: can you use the info? [11:55] ok [11:55] but, if you look closer [11:55] it's not your main problem, I think [11:55] aha [11:55] you don't have a kernel now in your install client, right? [11:55] that why I beg to to read the documentation yourself [11:56] you need to understand what you're doing [11:56] on windows, you can click around and with some luck thing run [11:56] but not with FAI, believe me [11:56] yes, but now it is Linux world [11:57] I agree [11:57] so, relax and learn. [11:57] and again: [11:57] 12:23 < oz__> 11:31 < oz__> 16:00 < \sh> Ahmtah, wrong linux-image package (on ubuntu it's named linux-image not linux-image-486) package linux-client is not in your package source etc. [11:57] at least this part, you're completely ignorant of [11:58] imho [11:58] but with no kernel - no boot [11:58] even if you have the most beautiful gpg key in your repository [12:00] ErKa (keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) joined #fai. [12:02] telmich_ (telmich@tee.schottelius.org) joined #fai. [12:02] moin moin [12:03] Action: oz__ moins back [12:04] did anyone of you try/succeed in running fai on archlinux? [12:04] and did anyone try/succeed running fai without a nfs server? [12:04] we're currently having heavy discussions about the future of installation management at the eth zurich, scaling up to different linux distros, etc. [12:05] telmich_: I put FAI on a USB stick and found that quit nice [12:05] it *should* be doable using the fetch=... option, but: never tried it with FAI on my own [12:06] fetch=.... from live-boot/live-initramfs, ftr [12:06] but that's long ago [12:06] telmich_: you want to get rid of nfs @ eth? [12:08] telmich_: FAI can also installal CentOS and Scientific Linux Cern 5 and 6. So archlinux should be doable. Currently FAI does not have support for pacman, but extending this part of FAI is mostly doable in 10 lines of perl code. [12:18] oz__: -nfs because we plan do to installations in the internet as well [12:19] Mrfai: alright [12:19] we're mostly thinking about this issue in a bigger approach, because of the idea to try to reuse installers [12:20] something we like very much about fai is abstracting the ugly partitioning scheme seen otherwise (like preseed) -- this is probably gonna be a longer discussion inside [12:20] telmich_: I thought it should be possible to replace nfs \l http or so [12:21] oz__: is also an interesting approach [12:33] .oO(and since archlinux doesn't sign its packages - IIRC - the installation part is even 2 lines shorter ;)) SCNR [12:56] hi, after installing the new live-boot (3.0~a16) and set "ipappend 2", the client tries to connect to 0.0.0.0, so the netboot get an timeout. Perhaps i shold set some variables in FAI? [13:10] Ahmtah (c35350f8@ircip3.mibbit.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:10] Kinglui: what's 0.0.0.0 pointing to? can you cat the file? [13:16] Ahmtah (c35350f8@ircip2.mibbit.com) joined #fai. [13:48] so i had edited config space to install Ubuntu [13:49] seems FAI is diffecul to customize and optimize [13:51] Ahmtah: installations system are "the holy grail" in Software installs, somewhat [13:51] that's why I repeatedly asked you to read the documentation [13:51] if you don't understand what you're doing, nothing will work [13:52] in fact I had done what mentioned in the FAI guide [13:52] your sentence assumes that you understood everything in it [13:53] yet, can you tell me if you install client has a kernel, or not? [13:53] Kinglui (~nix.email@195.122.130.2) left irc: [13:54] no kernel at mu install client [13:54] see. [13:54] and this is the new fai.log [13:54] and you did not even ask one time "what can I do to put a kernel on my install client" [13:55] then you box would boot up at least [13:55] http://paste.debian.net/119100 [13:55] it will not be installed correctly, yet [13:55] stop pasting these logs... [13:55] I used linux-image [13:55] OK dear [13:56] what can I do to put a kernel on my Ubuntu install client [13:58] 13:57 < oz__> 12:23 < oz__> 11:31 < oz__> 16:00 < \sh> Ahmtah, wrong linux-image package (on ubuntu it's named linux-image not linux-image-486) package linux-client is not in your package source [13:59] you have linux-image in one of the software lists? [13:59] ERROR: chroot /target aptitude -R -y -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confdef" -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" install linux-image memtest86+ dhcp3-client grub-pc grub- lilo- fai-c [14:00] lient cfengine2 cron debconf-utils file hdparm jove less linuxlogo nfs-common nscd rdate rsync openssh-client openssh-server strace tcsh time procinfo exim4 eject locales console-c [14:00] ommon pciutils usbutils lvm2 return code 255 [14:00] you don't have aptitude in you basefiles. [14:00] I think we fixed that last week already? [14:02] you have a file $fai/package_config/UBUNTU1010 ? [14:02] ErKa (keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [14:06] no, we didn't mention this [14:06] "we"? [14:06] we only used --include=aptitude [14:06] you have to use a more exact language [14:07] then we can be a lot faster [14:07] and I used with debootstrap [14:07] Ahmtah: don't incorrect [14:08] --include=aptitude and --exclude=info [14:08] can you use a shell on you install client after the installation attempt? [14:08] yes I used the shell [14:10] okay. now we check if your client really has aptitude: [14:10] do the following in the shell: "chroot /target" [14:10] then: "which aptitude" [14:10] what does the system reply? [14:11] and honestly...this is NOT the intention of this # to help with such "basic" problems [14:11] if you use FAI you should know that already. [14:12] that's stated in the Documentation, too. :) [14:13] did you ever think about making setup-storage its own project? [14:13] Nick change: telmich_ -> telmich [14:13] it is /usr/bin/aptitude [14:14] fine [14:14] you did "chroot /target" before, did you? [14:14] yes [14:14] now do "exit" [14:15] I did exit [14:15] and again "which aptitude" [14:16] it is /usr/bin/aptitude [14:16] same? [14:17] yes [14:17] telmich: it's available as separate package nowadays [14:17] good, then so far [14:18] do "mount --bind /dev /target/dev" [14:18] then "chroot /target" again [14:19] mikap: do you have a hint on where to find its homepages [14:19] s/s$/?/ [14:19] telmich: *package* not *project* [14:20] I did [14:21] Ahmtah: then do "mount -a" [14:21] what does the system reply? [14:24] at the chroot [14:24] appears warning [14:24] can you be more exact? [14:25] paste the output to paste.debian.net [14:25] and again. normally this is not what the channel is intended for [14:25] Mount: /dev/sda9 already Mounted or /home busy [14:27] http://paste.debian.net/119118/ [14:30] Ahmtah: don't care. [14:30] what does "mount" tell you? [14:30] ? [14:30] see... [14:30] I'm getting tired of this. [14:31] warning: can't open /etc/mtab: No such file or directory [14:35] Mrfai (~lange@malzmuehle.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:35] Ahmtah: now. [14:35] warning: can't open /etc/mtab: No such file or directory [14:36] try to run "apt-get install linux-image" [14:36] /proc isn't mounted [14:36] mikap: if that makes problems do "mount /proc" [14:36] not me, Ahmtah [14:37] mikap: :) [14:37] mikap: do you think my support attempt is sensible? [14:37] apt-get install linux-image works well and I pressed y y [14:38] oz__: i tend to put both of you into /ignore, is that enough of an answer? ;) [14:38] that is appear $ Configuring grub-pc  [14:39] mikap: :-D [14:40] Ahmtah: I think the kernel is about to be installed [14:42] It is installed with GRUB [14:42] please believe me that I edited DEFAULT to use linux-image [14:43] Ahmtah: please believe ME that YOU should have read some more docu [14:43] now do "umount -a" [14:43] exit, reset the client [14:44] something will boot now [14:45] no boot [14:45] what happens? [14:46] and now after another attempt it appears [14:46] Ubuntu 10.10 Ubuntu tty1 ubuntu login: :) [14:47] Ahmtah: that's your boot [14:47] and I put you on ignore now, too. read docu until you can ask proper questions here. 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