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| 08:55 winkie | hey guys, trying to set up FAI on an ubuntu maverick openvz VM again, and having problems with the default configs not installing a kernel |
| 08:56 winkie | this is while doing make-fai-nfsroot |
| 08:56 winkie | cp: cannot stat `/srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir/boot/vmlinu?-*': No such file or directory |
| 09:00 Mrfai | read the whole log of make-fai-nfsroot -v |
| 09:01 Mrfai | check the lines were it tries to install an kernel image |
| 09:01 FBI | fai: 3 lange committed revision 6512 to 7 fai: use a more descriptive name |
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| 09:11 winkie | Mrfai: nah i found what it was: "linux-image" is a virtual package provided by: |
| 09:11 winkie | You must choose one to install. |
| 09:11 winkie | so i guess i should have modified /etc/fai/NFSROOT :) |
| 09:12 Mrfai | yep |
| 09:12 winkie | out of interest, how does the ubuntu install process work? it seems to be bootstrapping squeeze |
| 09:13 Mrfai | There are two ways to do it. First you have a ubuntu installation server and use the ubuntu fai packages. |
| 09:13 winkie | that is what i am doing, i have an ubuntu virtual machine in openvz |
| 09:13 winkie | and am trying to set it up from there |
| 09:14 Mrfai | IF you use the ubuntu packages, everything should be fine. If you use the debian packages, you have to edit the file in /etc/fai |
| 09:14 winkie | i'm using the default packages in ubuntu 10.10, but the debootstrap line does use squeeze, does this then set up like a base tarball for ubuntu? |
| 09:17 Mrfai | no. replace suqeeze with the ubuntu release name |
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| 09:17 winkie | oh ok, i would have expected that done by default :o |
| 09:18 winkie | not a problem though :) |
| 09:20 FBI | fai: 3 lange committed revision 6513 to 7 fai: add user demo |
| 09:33 winkie | Mrfai: can i edit the ubuntu wiki page to detail what changes i've had to make? some of these things have been fixed in natty |
| 09:33 winkie | i guess as natty's due for release actually |
| 09:33 winkie | i should shut up |
| 09:37 Mrfai | Sure you can edit if if you like. You do not need to ask for this. |
| 09:41 winkie | i will possibly update to natty and try that |
| 09:41 winkie | because it is working very badly in maverick |
| 09:42 winkie | The following packages have unmet dependencies: fai-nfsroot: Depends: live-initramfs which is a virtual package. |
| 09:43 winkie | it looks like this is a debian related thing again :( |
| 09:45 winkie | yep, live-initramfs was deleted in ubuntu last year, so fai is non installable by default |
| 09:45 winkie | so much for it working :( |
| 09:49 Mrfai | it's not debian related. In Debian it works out of the box. |
| 09:50 Mrfai | I heared fai 3.4.7 work nicely on Ubuntu. |
| 09:50 Mrfai | natty |
| 09:51 winkie | Mrfai: yes it is ubuntu's packages fault |
| 09:51 winkie | they depend on live-initramfs where it should be live-boot |
| 09:51 Mrfai | But I never tested it on my own. Other people care (hopefully) on the ubuntu fai packages |
| 09:51 winkie | anyway i will try and switch to natty |
| 09:51 winkie | and update the wiki once i am done |
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| 10:05 FBI | fai: 3 lange committed revision 6514 to 7 fai: add -c to chmod, chown |
| 10:07 winkie | right as there's no natty package looks like i have to somehow grab the fai-nfsroot package from a newer version |
| 10:07 winkie | oh god! |
| 10:09 Mrfai | have a look at the ppa for ubuntu |
| 10:10 winkie | Mrfai: ah, didn't realise there was a ppa, that might do it |
| 10:10 Mrfai | Mmm, but it only contains 3.4.2ubuntu1 |
| 10:10 winkie | yes but it has a live-initramfs package |
| 10:10 Mrfai | IIRC there should be a 3.4.7ubuntu.. availiable |
| 10:10 winkie | uploaded this year for some reason |
| 10:10 winkie | that will probably do enough for now |
| 10:12 winkie | thanks again Mrfai, it seems you guys are on top of things, and the ubuntu packagers aren't :) |
| 10:13 Mrfai | maybe ask again on the linux-fai mailing list for the status of fai packages in natty |
| 10:13 winkie | no it's fine, if i can get maverick working that is sufficient for now |
| 10:14 winkie | we have a good month or so to move to natty but we need some maverick installs doing today :) |
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| 10:29 bscherre | hi! some questions about fai & debian 6: Somehow fai seems to ignore the file rc.local. It copies all other files but not this one and doesn't even give an error in the log. |
| 10:30 bscherre | And I don't know how to configure Debian to use the german keyboard layout after the installation, has something changed here? |
| 10:32 bscherre | my GERMAN.var contains "KEYMAP=de-latin1-nodeadkeys". The class German ist called, everything is on german except for the keyboard layout |
| 10:34 bscherre | ah, and I'm on Debian stable here with fai 3.4.7 |
| 10:51 winkie | hmmm |
| 10:51 winkie | well i managed to boot these boxes |
| 10:51 winkie | which immediately both kernel panic after 'mounting root filesystem' |
| 11:09 winkie | http://i.imgur.com/UnR4K.jpg <-- 2 different boxes panic like that, optiplex 320 and 360, gonna see if NFS is compiled in or something dumb like that has gone wrong |
| 11:15 oz__ | winkie: can you mount the nfsroot from other boxes? |
| 11:15 winkie | oz__: yeah just checking, one min |
| 11:16 winkie | not looking that way atm |
| 11:17 oz__ | that may be the problem |
| 11:21 winkie | aye, just debugging it now |
| 11:22 winkie | hmm wtf |
| 11:26 mgoetze | bscherre: you mean you have files/etc/rc.local/CLASS and it is not copied? you will need to add an fcopy command to your scripts |
| 11:26 winkie | oz__: looks like http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.fai/8760 is potentially the reason |
| 11:30 bscherre | mgoetze: yes, I have several files like this and I use the fcopy command for each of them. It seems to simply ignore the fcopy command, since ith neither copies it nor give me an error (like file not found or something) |
| 11:31 bscherre | mgoetze: All other files are copied. Or does Debian replace the file during install? |
| 11:31 winkie | oz__: yep it's booting now and just failing to find config, which is easy to resolve |
| 11:31 mgoetze | bscherre: nothing else should be touching rc.local. use fcopy -v and check your shell.log to see what is happening |
| 11:32 Mrfai | and chmod a+rx your scripts :-) |
| 11:33 bscherre | Mrfai: yes, I did this mistake several times ;) But all other files from the script are copied |
| 11:33 winkie | right Mrfai i'll remember to add this to the wiki page :) |
| 11:34 winkie | looks like i need to get an account :/ |
| 11:35 Mrfai | I can give you one. I need your first, and last name and email address |
| 11:35 winkie | sent, that's easier than emailing : |
| 11:35 winkie | :) |
| 11:36 winkie | also, getting these: |
| 11:36 winkie | /usr/sbin/make-fai-nfsroot: line 168: /var/run/fai/make-fai-nfsroot/copy_fai_files: No such file or directory |
| 11:36 winkie | /usr/sbin/make-fai-nfsroot: line 168: /var/run/fai/make-fai-nfsroot/setup_ssh: No such file or directory |
| 11:36 winkie | /usr/sbin/make-fai-nfsroot: line 168: /var/run/fai/make-fai-nfsroot/add_packages_nfsroot: No such file or directory |
| 11:36 winkie | bit odd |
| 11:39 bscherre | mgoetze: Do you mean /tmp/fai/fai.log by "shell.log"? Otherwise I'm kindly asking you for the location of shell.log :) |
| 11:40 mgoetze | bscherre: during the installation /tmp/fai/shell.log |
| 11:40 bscherre | mgoetze: unfortunately, there is no /tmp/fai/shell.log here... |
| 11:41 FBI | fai: 3 lange committed revision 6515 to 7 fai: add link to wiki |
| 11:50 bscherre | the file is just not listet, not in fai.log, not in fcopy.log... weird |
| 11:51 Mrfai | winkie: very strange. Do you use bash when executing make-fai-nfsroot? |
| 11:54 winkie | Mrfai: i'm doing that in a chroot, so possibly not :) |
| 11:55 winkie | where are those files supposed to be sourced from? |
| 11:58 Mrfai | these are subroutines that are defined inside make-fai-nfsroot |
| 11:59 winkie | interesting |
| 12:00 winkie | they don't appear when specifically using bash, so yeah that seems to be the problem :) |
| 12:00 bscherre | mgoetze: ah, shell.log appeared at the end of the installation |
| 12:00 Mrfai | I gues you have a version of m-f-n which does not have #! /bin/bash in the first line |
| 12:01 Mrfai | and /bin/sh is some different shell on your system |
| 12:01 bscherre | mgoetze: but it does not mention rc.local at all. It simply completely ignores it |
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| 12:01 winkie | Mrfai: it does have that, so god knows what was happening there |
| 12:01 winkie | i didn't realise you could have a space between #! and the thing to be called |
| 12:01 winkie | anyway i just need to sort my config now and i think it'll be good :) |
| 12:02 bscherre | mgoetze: Unfortunately I have to leave now; thanks a lot for your help, I will check back another day with hopefully some more information. |
| 12:03 mgoetze | bscherre: sure |
| 12:03 bscherre | bye! |
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| 12:08 oz__ | hm. here, my setup-storage problem pops up again... |
| 12:09 winkie | well success for me, the machine boots |
| 12:09 winkie | although i get a few 'syntax error' 'incorrect command' warnings at the start |
| 12:09 winkie | wondering if there's some grub misconfiguration |
| 12:09 oz__ | disk_config disk1 preserve_lazy:3 |
| 12:10 winkie | suggestions welcome while i go get some celebratory fast food :) |
| 12:11 oz__ | winkie: preserve_reinstall, is that actually working? |
| 12:12 oz__ | preserve_lazy fails if the partition to preserve does not exists...and that is okay (even if I now would not mind if working that way) |
| Action: oz__ now tests preserve_reinstall |
| 12:13 oz__ | fails, too... :( |
| 12:16 oz__ | but that would be nice to have this function to administer desktop systems |
| 12:17 oz__ | here, ppl start to ask for linux on the desktop |
| 12:18 Mrfai | oz you can use two different disk_config files. then write a hook that checks if this partition exists and whichdefines a class depending on this check |
| 12:20 oz__ | Mrfai: werd ich wohl so machen müssen... |
| 12:20 oz__ | aber laut http://fai-project.org/doc/man/setup-storage.html sollte es doch auch mit preserve_install gehen, oder nicht? |
| 12:20 oz__ | oh, we're englich sry |
| 12:21 oz__ | I think I don't have to translate this, no? ;) |
| 12:39 winkie | 13:17.03 < oz__> here, ppl start to ask for linux on the desktop |
| 12:39 winkie | here, we force people to use linux on the desktop :) |
| 12:41 oz__ | winkie: can't force here :-/ ;) |
| 12:42 winkie | so now i've installed ubuntu-desktop i get the same 3 errors on boot, but it hasn't finished boot sequence lol |
| 12:42 winkie | will debug that in a bit i guess |
| 12:42 winkie | food first |
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| 13:05 Mrfai | Yeah! scientific Linux Cern 5.6 is installed with FAI. Now fixing my local slc mirror which will speed up the installation a bit. |
| 13:05 winkie | Mrfai: sweet :) |
| 13:05 winkie | i'm still having ubuntu issues |
| 13:12 oz__ | Mrfai: ophh...neat. |
| 13:12 oz__ | exactly that is what I need here |
| 13:12 oz__ | Mrfai: do you document that? |
| 13:15 Mrfai | No. It's top secret. You have to pay a lot for this. |
| 13:15 winkie | so has anyone installed ubuntu with FAI recently, and seen an issue where the splash screen hangs? |
| 13:15 winkie | it doesn't look like any grub prompt is presented by default |
| 13:16 Mrfai | oz__: sure I will document it. |
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| 13:20 omani | ich habe ein problem mit fai. nach der installation von debian kann ich nicht lokal booten, weil ich in der vm nur ein blank screen bekomme |
| 13:21 omani | also grub lädt nicht, nichts. es kommt einfach garnichts, wenn ich die vm starte |
| 13:21 mgoetze | omani: was fuer ein debian und was fuer eine vm? |
| 13:21 Mrfai | dann must du die log files von fai lesen |
| 13:21 mgoetze | (achja und was fuer ein grub...) |
| 13:30 winkie | oh great, my ubuntu is failing at "Updating the system logo" after complaining that mountall failed and a bunch of fsck from util-linux stuff |
| 13:30 winkie | wth his going on here :/ |
| 13:41 winkie | well |
| 13:41 winkie | rebooting it fixed it |
| 13:41 winkie | through some magical process |
| 13:41 winkie | apparently the error is also caused by a bad grub config |
| 13:41 winkie | having grub_timeout=0 or similar |
| 13:41 oz__ | winkie: ubuntu means "I have a lot of trouble" in some african language. ;) |
| 13:41 winkie | oz__: haha :) |
| 13:44 Mrfai | centos/slc repository structure is horrible. |
| 13:46 Mrfai | For e.g. slc updates repository is about 17G because it contains every single version of updates, not only the most recent. For e.g 12 versions of bind :-( |
| 13:46 omani | mgoetze: das standard debian, womit fai kommt. csn.debian.org |
| 13:46 omani | ich weiß nicht, welches grub benutzt wird. ich habe einfach die installation angestoßen |
| 13:46 omani | ohne irgendwasn zu verändern, also im sinne von was installiert werden soll, etc. |
| 13:47 omani | nur die konfigurationsdateien verändert, dhcp aufgesertzt, nfs, tftpd, usw. |
| 13:47 omani | er installiert auch, anscheinend erfolgreich. |
| 13:47 mgoetze | omani: gemeint war eher, ob du debian 5 (lenny) oder debian 6 (squeeze) benutzt |
| 13:47 omani | aber ein reboot von der platte (vbox) zeigt nichts an |
| 13:47 omani | mgoetze: was nutzt denn fai standardmäßig? ich denke lenny |
| 13:47 omani | müsste es sein. |
| 13:48 winkie | so uh, where the heck is all the grub_pc stuff defined? does it just install it with default values cause if so then ubuntu fails to package properly again |
| 13:48 winkie | as these errors apparently occur from configs |
| 13:48 mgoetze | welches fai? wie hast du ueberhaupt ein fai erhalten? |
| 13:52 omani | mgoetze: über deb repos. fai-server sammt aller abhaengigkeiten |
| 14:06 FBI | fai: 3 lange committed revision 6516 to 7 fai: a host named slchost will be installed using Scientific Linux Cern |
| 14:07 mgoetze | omani: ja... welche deb repos? von welcher debian verison? ... |
| 14:09 omani | squeeze |
| 14:09 omani | ich benutze squeeze als HOST |
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| 15:22 winkie | sorry for such a crap question, but how should i set up disk_config so that i have a primary partition that's full sized except for a 1 gig swap? |
| 15:23 winkie | i have 40 mins to finish a setup and i have no time to google :) |
| 15:23 winkie | plus teh man page is not easily parseable :p |
| 15:26 mgoetze | winkie: just make the size of the primary partition something like "1-" |
| 15:26 mgoetze | winkie: that will make it a minimum of 1 and as much as possible |
| 15:27 oz__ | http://paste.debian.net/115364/ |
| 15:27 mgoetze | (of course you could specify a real sensible minimum too, e.g. "4G-" |
| 15:27 oz__ | mgoetze: would you say that config is as demanded? |
| 15:28 oz__ | that's what I use here for my SILLYDBSERVER class ;) |
| 15:28 mgoetze | what's that $ for at the end of line 7? |
| 15:28 oz__ | oh, shit |
| 15:28 oz__ | mompls that was a paste error |
| 15:29 oz__ | http://paste.debian.net/115365/ <- that's it. *phew* |
| 15:29 mgoetze | i would add "fstabkey:uuid bootable:1" to line 5 but that's just details :) |
| 15:30 oz__ | mgoetze: opkay, I'll try that, too |
| 15:30 winkie | mgoetze: smashing that's all i needed |
| 15:30 winkie | thank you |
| 15:30 winkie | now i just have to figure out why setting the users password fails so hard |
| 15:30 oz__ | how you do it? |
| 15:31 mgoetze | winkie: maybe passing encrypted password when it should be unencrypted or vice versa? i think the default behaviour of chpasswd changed in some recent version |
| 15:34 mgoetze | anyway gtg, have a nice evening |
| 15:34 winkie | mgoetze: "" vs '' |
| 15:34 winkie | bloody typical huh |
| 15:34 winkie | gotta sort charmap, locales are done, user is done etc :) |
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| 15:39 oz__ | winkie: so, almost done? |
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| 15:44 winkie | oz__: basically, it's just been a stupid rush |
| 15:45 winkie | doing the last test install now |
| 15:45 winkie | then i have to set up a firefox profile, tar that up and make it be untarred in each users home directory |
| 15:45 winkie | no clue how to do that :) |
| 15:47 winkie | bugger, keymap is wrong too |
| 15:51 oz__ | yea, FAI is quite en_US prone... |
| 15:53 winkie | well and ubuntu doesn't use a standard method either |
| 15:54 winkie | i find it particularly hilarious the wiki says 'all works on ubuntu!' |
| 15:54 winkie | cause it couldn't be more of a lie |
| 15:54 oz__ | *psssscht* |
| 15:54 oz__ | but I'm totally with you. ;) |
| 15:55 winkie | i'll fix the wiki after i fix this :) |
| 15:55 winkie | ie in a year or two |
| 15:59 winkie | mgoetze: anyone ever seen this error during softupdate? debconf: DbDriver "_ENV_stack": unable to save changes to: locales/locales_to_be_generated |
| 15:59 winkie | mgoetze: i found this in irclogs |
| 15:59 winkie | and now i see a similar thing trying to set up the console |
| 15:59 winkie | did you manage to fix it? |
| 16:00 winkie | google is of course useless for searching specific text >:( |
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