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| 09:02 \sh | mgoetze: do you want to share your config space? ;) |
| 09:05 oz_ | a config space 'wiki' for fai would be nice |
| 09:05 oz_ | or wouldn't it? |
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| 09:19 \sh | we could push those to a source repo...with possibilities to branch from there and eventually push back changes ;) |
| 09:20 mgoetze | \sh: yes i do... will be sharing it via fai trunk shortly ;) |
| 09:22 \sh | mgoetze: cool thx :) |
| 09:23 \sh | btw..I just have strange problems with fedora 14 ;) |
| 09:23 \sh | I gathered all core packages with all the deps they need, and the install works like a charm...but inside the chroot yum and rpm are complaining about a bad gpg key |
| 09:26 mgoetze | \sh: you can call yum with --nogpgcheck and rpm with --nosignature |
| 09:28 mgoetze | btw, what's the easiest way to check whether /boot is a partition of its own? |
| 09:30 \sh | doesn't help |
| 09:30 oz_ | grep /boot /etc/fstab ? |
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| 10:31 \sh | ok..fixed the fedora 14 problem...missing libs is a nice one...especially when the app which needs it doesn't tell you so |
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| 10:42 Ikarus | anyone actually set up dual-boot systems with FAI and Windows RIS ? |
| 10:42 Ikarus | been tinkering with it for some time now |
| 10:42 Ikarus | but haven't found the "right" way |
| 10:45 \sh | windows RIS? |
| 10:45 \sh | something like altiris I guess |
| 10:46 Ikarus | \sh: Windows RIS is Remote Installation Services (the pre-Vista way of installing Windows over the network) |
| 10:47 \sh | Ikarus: ok...and why do you want to have a dual-boot system? why don't you split up FAI on one server and the Windows stuff on the other? |
| 10:47 \sh | We are running FAI and Altiris in parallel on two machines, but sharing the same network |
| 10:48 Ikarus | \sh: uh, the server side is not the issue |
| 10:48 Ikarus | the problem is getting FAI and RIS to play nice next to eachother when installing a new desktop |
| 10:49 \sh | Ikarus: ah you want to have a "dual-boot" workstation after deploying it first with windows RIS and then running FAI |
| 10:49 Ikarus | yup |
| 10:51 \sh | what's the problem...install first the windows part, and adjust your FAI disk-layout to preserve the windows partition and just install the linux part with FAI |
| 10:52 \sh | eventually tweak your grub config (on ubuntu lucid it should detect your windows partition automagically when generating the grub.cfg) |
| 10:52 Ikarus | \sh: it gets worse, Windows RIS installs it to the whole disc |
| 10:53 \sh | Ikarus: then it's not the right tool...altiris is much better...but it costs money |
| 10:54 Ikarus | \sh: WDS can also do it, but no money nor time to switch that setup |
| 10:55 \sh | Ikarus: eventually having a hook for disksetup which resizes the windows partition? |
| 10:55 Ikarus | yeah, considering just hacking around it by running ntfsresize prior to disksetup |
| 10:56 Ikarus | other option is to boot a Linux thingy first, lay down a disc layout and force Windows to use that |
| 10:56 Ikarus | but that is far more work in terms of getting it to work |
| 10:58 \sh | Ikarus: the other way around is more the "normal" way of doing it...think about windows and it's bootloader...normally I don't have a grub anymore after installing linux first, and windows last |
| 10:59 Ikarus | \sh: this would be boot Linux and layout disc, boot Windows and install, boot Linux and install |
| 11:00 Ikarus | will have to do something with Windows nasty habit to reboot in the middle of the installation though I guess |
| 11:00 Ikarus | some gpxe scripting or the like |
| 11:08 Ikarus | now if only there was a safe way to do this, but I guess I'll need TCPA for that.... |
| 11:08 Ikarus | PXE is inherintly unsafe, passing initial credentials around more so |
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| 11:58 Robbie | hey guys, using fai 3.4.7 and when the system gets partitioned I get the following error: |
| 11:58 Robbie | /dev/sda1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here! |
| 11:59 Robbie | it makes no sense, since mount show no entries of /dev/sda |
| 11:59 Robbie | http://pastebin.com/7HtgZJ0W |
| 11:59 Robbie | Is this a bug? |
| 12:00 Robbie | or something to do with automount? |
| 12:01 mgoetze | Robbie: what does /proc/mounts say? |
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| 12:02 Robbie | mgoetze, |
| 12:02 Robbie | http://pastebin.com/BiVsawea |
| 12:03 mgoetze | no idea then... i would just try zeroing the first mb or so with dd and installing again |
| 12:05 Robbie | i'll give it a try |
| 12:11 Robbie | sucks |
| 12:12 Robbie | now it does sda1 and sda2 but fails with the same error on sda3 |
| 12:12 mgoetze | well seems to help... so uh, zero the whole disk? :) |
| 12:13 mgoetze | or you could try mkfs with -v to see whether it says anything more |
| 12:17 Robbie | doing that ;) probably a disk corruption |
| 12:44 Robbie | ok mgoetze, that did the trick |
| 14:15 Mrfai | Robbie: what was the problem in the end? |
| 14:16 Robbie | the disk /dev/sda/ and /dev/sdb where not clean |
| 14:16 Robbie | i had to dd the whole disk |
| 14:17 Robbie | instead of just the mbr |
| 14:17 Robbie | but software raid fai |
| 14:17 Robbie | no go |
| 14:17 Robbie | keeps on failing with mdadm |
| 14:17 Robbie | we have the latest version, mdadm is even from natty repo |
| 14:17 Robbie | pretty simple config |
| 14:17 Robbie | 2 disks |
| 14:17 Robbie | raid 1 |
| 14:18 Robbie | with 3 partitions |
| 14:18 Robbie | even after full wipe of both disks |
| 14:20 Robbie | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/565383/ |
| 14:20 Robbie | @ Mrfai |
| 14:31 Mrfai | Mmm. mt is the setup-storage guru. But I'm wondering why the OS thinks those disks are mounted. Never saw this before. |
| 14:34 Robbie | maybe leftovers on the disk? |
| 14:36 Mrfai | maybe. But there must be some bits at a certain position of the disk, that are left over. MAybe a former partition at the same position that was not cleanly umounted. |
| 14:42 Robbie | Mrfai, does mt also do soft raid configs? :) |
| 14:44 Mrfai | he's the setup-storage developer |
| 14:44 Robbie | great |
| 14:56 FBI | fai: 3 lange committed revision 6282 to 7 fai: diverting nis not needed any more, tested with lenny and squeeze (closes: #612481) |
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| 22:32 FBI | fai: 3 mgoetze-guest committed revision 6283 to 7 fai: Remove cfengine2 from default NFSROOT, as it is no longer needed for the simple-examples. Only do cfengine cleanup if it is installed. |
| 22:54 juri_ | funny. one of the first things i did with my FAI installation was rewrite all of the cfengine2 scripts in sh. |
| 22:55 mgoetze | :) |
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