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01:43 mikapmt: do we have anything else to queue up for 3.4.6 (maybe related to the align_at issue)?
Action: mikap noticed that FAI "eats" custom policy-rc.d files
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08:55 mtmikap, no, nothing that I feel must go into 3.4.6
08:55 mtthe alignment stuff is experimental only
08:56 mt3.4.6 still uses cylinder alignment
09:03 h01germikap, eek, eating policy-rc.d files sounds critical for softupdates
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09:08 mikapmt: ok
Action: mt wonders whether mikap ever sleeps ...
09:09 mikaph01ger: i'm on it, doesn't seem to be a direct remove but due to the divert other packages don't install a symlink and therefore no policy-rc.d is there when using update-alternatives, so no real data loss but just a regression
09:09 mikapmt: me2 ;)
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11:27 mikapmt: svn r6244 works around my LVM issue too, right?
11:33 mtmikap, sorry
11:33 mtback now
11:33 mikapwould be great if i get feedback on "Subject: Stable release 3.4.6~rc1 (was: Re: The 3.4.6 wishlist)", mt + Mrfai
11:33 mikapmt: no need for excuse :) wb!
11:35 mtmikap, did you send this to the list just moments ago?
11:35 mthaven't got anything in my mailbox
11:35 mikapjepp, to fai-devel
11:35 mikapalready received it on my own :)
11:35 mikapi can bounce it to you if you want
11:36 mtno, should be fine
11:38 mtmikap, yes, r6244 also works around your issue
11:38 mikapmt: great!
11:39 mtbut the changelog should be tweaked a bit
11:39 mt4ff0276
11:39 mikapshould be no problem
11:39 mtseems like my message was longer than one line
11:39 mikapah, as ....
11:40 mtthere must be a second (relevant) line in the log
11:40 mikapthanks for catching, fixed that
11:40 mtnot sure about 6b2956f
11:40 mikapsame for next entry
11:41 mtand a7130ae
11:43 mikapmt: http://git.grml.org/?p=fai-stable.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1c5c3f039b58d39a1392c358d359969aad89ed7;hp=20e21b34b83024212326d09d053fa64217cb7e5d - ok?
11:44 mtcool, thanks!
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11:47 mikapMrfai: thx, btw - you answer my private and not on the list, jfyi :)
11:52 mtbtw, mikap, I'm fine with a release of 3.4.6
11:53 mtstill no mail in my inbox, seems to be hanging somewhere between uni-koeln, debian, and my server
11:59 mikapmt: ok cool; it's about svn r6231 that i'd like to integrate, Mrfai ACK-ed it
12:03 mikaphttp://git.grml.org/?p=fai-stable.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/mika/3.4-dev - ok, there we go
12:03 mikapso i'd release that: http://paste.grml.org/222/ Mrfai + mt
12:04 mtfine with me!
12:04 mikapgreat
12:13 mikapmt: Mrfai: my plan -> upload 3.4.6 in those minutes to unstable, mail to fai/fai-devel and give testers a chance to test it until [$DATE_WE_DEFINE] and then i'd ask for another release exception
12:25 mtyou might want to ask right away
12:27 mikapsure :)
12:27 mtMrfai, do you have access to the mail servers running the mailing lists?
12:28 mtmikap, would you have a message id of https://lists.uni-koeln.de/pipermail/linux-fai-devel/2010q4/001008.html
12:29 mtstill nothing in my inbox even though some test mail to mt@debian.org made it to my inbox
12:29 mikapmt: Message-ID: <2010-12-23T12-16-19@devnull.michael-prokop.at>
12:36 mikap3.4.6 available at http://people.debian.org/~mika/fai/release/
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12:45 FBIfai: 3 mika committed revision 6246 to 7 fai:  print message to stderr (closes: #605947)
12:45 FBIfai: The bugfix for #600715 did break every fai-mirror call, since an
12:45 FBIfai: additional line appeared in $NFSROOT/var/tmp/packages.nfsroot.
12:45 FBIfai: 3 mika committed revision 6247 to 7 fai:  setup-storage/{Fstab.pm,Parser.pm}: Cleanup code for defining BOOT_DEVICE
12:45 FBIfai: setup-storage.8: Properly document semantics of BOOT_DEVICE and disk_var.sh.
12:45 FBIfai: Thanks: Julien Blache <jblache@debian.org>
12:45 FBIfai: 3 mika committed revision 6248 to 7 fai:  simple/scripts/GRUB_PC/10-setup: No need to deal with multiple devices anymore,
12:45 FBIfai: BOOT_DEVICE will always a be single value.
12:45 FBIfai: This version of 10-setup is known to work both with lenny and squeeze.
12:45 FBIfai: Thanks: alekibango, David Dreezer
12:46 FBIfai: 3 mika committed revision 6249 to 7 fai:  setup-storage/Commands.pm: Use proper dependencies when entire disks are used as
12:46 FBIfai: part of a RAID or LVM volume
12:46 FBIfai: Thanks: Peter Kruse
12:46 FBIfai: 3 mika committed revision 6250 to 7 fai:  setup-storage/Commands.pm: Always run vgchange -a -n, even if no prior LVM
12:46 FBIfai: was detected; run pvcreate with -ff -y.
12:46 FBIfai: Closes: #606485
12:46 FBIfai: Thanks: Mathieu Alorent <malorent@echo.fr>
12:46 FBIfai: 3 mika committed revision 6251 to 7 fai:  setup-storage/Commands.pm: Fix dependencies between disk and LVM commands.
12:46 FBIfai: Closes: #606113
12:46 FBIfai: Thanks: Mathieu Alorent <malorent@echo.fr>, Nicolas Courtel <courtel@cena.fr>
12:46 FBIfai: 3 mika committed revision 6252 to 7 fai:  catch every exit code != 0 from mount2dir
12:46 FBIfai: 3 mika committed revision 6253 to 7 fai:  Release new version 3.4.6.
12:46 FBIfai: Signed-off-by: Michael Prokop <mika@grml.org>
12:48 FBIfai: 3 mika committed revision 6254 to 7 fai:  Tagging stable release 3.4.6.
12:51 mikapuploaded 3.4.6 to unstable too
12:53 mikapMrfai: please add 3.4.6 to the squeeze repository then
13:08 mikapto all of you: *please* test 3.4.6!
Topic changed on #fai by mikap!mika@mail.michael-prokop.at: FAI $HOME has moved to http://fai-project.org || FAI 3.4.6 (etch/lenny/squeeze) -> https://lists.uni-koeln.de/pipermail/linux-fai/2010-December/008665.html
13:11 Mrfaimt: no the mail server ist run by the central computing service (RRZK). I have no access to it
13:11 mtthanks, it's fine now
13:11 mtreceived the message with a delay of 1h
13:12 mtseems like the outgoing relay of rrzk is terribly overloaded
13:12 MrfaiI guess they are doing greylisting
13:12 mikapalright, did my work for xmas :)
13:14 Mrfaimikap: I'll add the 3.4.6 package to the squeeze repository, if they are available on the official debian mirrors.
13:15 mikapMrfai: perfect
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14:02 mikapha, it's fai-divert -R inside task_finish that destroys my policy-rc.d setup
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19:49 ballisonwhat file tells fai which configuration group a server falls into ?
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20:28 ballisoni'm having an issue with a newly installed kernel via fai not showing the right splash screen
20:28 ballisonwhy would that matter?
20:28 ballisonit's in grub, shouldn't matter which kernel i boot
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21:52 DavidDreezerHi MT, are you there?
21:52 mtyes :-)
21:52 DavidDreezerHi!
21:52 DavidDreezerI'm about to leave for the holidays I wanted to stop by before I do
21:53 mtEverything working on your side now?
21:53 DavidDreezerfirst, to give you results of 3.4.6 test, and to thank you for all of your help!
21:53 DavidDreezerit is indeed.
21:53 mtcool, makes much nicer holidays :-)
21:53 DavidDreezerI did try the 3.4.6 setup-storage, and got a perl error
21:53 DavidDreezerGlobal symbol "$needs_resize" requires explicit package name at /usr/share/fai/setup-storage//Commands.pm line 911.
21:53 mt!?
21:53 mtomg
21:53 mtmikap, still around?
21:54 DavidDreezernow, this may in fact be cause by my extracting setup storage from 3.4.6 into my 4.0~48 installation
21:54 mtwell, no, looks more like an incomplete/failed merge
21:54 DavidDreezeri simply did not have time to completely uninstall 4.0 and install a full 3.4.6
21:54 DavidDreezeroh, i see
21:55 DavidDreezerCompilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/setup-storage line 92.
21:55 DavidDreezerBEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/setup-storage line 92.
21:55 DavidDreezerunfortuately I will not be able to test further, until after the 1st
21:55 DavidDreezerbut I'm so pleased with the progress that we've made. I expect to go to production with this the first week of Jan
21:56 mtmeanwhile we'll probably do a 3.4.7 :-/
21:57 DavidDreezerI wish that I'd had time to do a complete change over to 3.4.6
21:57 DavidDreezerthat takes me about 4 hours to do, and I simply don't have that today
21:59 mthmm, 3.4.5 should be fine, shouldn't be causing such trouble
21:59 DavidDreezeri hadn't tried 3.4.5 properly. when I tried it last night i had left in the disk align part
22:00 DavidDreezerso today I noticed there was a 3.4.6 so I tried that instead, with the disk align removed
22:00 mtoh, no problem, that was more an informational message
22:00 mtjust in case you need something working :-)
22:01 DavidDreezeri'm quite pleased with 4.0 unless you really don't think I should be using that
22:03 mtoh, I'm happy to see you using it :-)
22:03 mtbut please be prepared for some kind of breakage
22:04 mtbut I'll of course always try to fix things ASAP
22:06 DavidDreezernothing has broken yet, that we didn't know about. I feel confident in it. ANd I'mm content to be ahead of the curve
22:07 mtwhat I'm a bit worried about is that version changes of FAI take about 4 hours for you
22:07 mtwhat is it that takes so long?
22:08 DavidDreezerto go from 3.4.x to 4.0 and back?
22:08 mtyep
22:09 DavidDreezerI generally back up my configs and then wipe the server and start clean
22:09 DavidDreezerfrom 3.4.5 to 3.4.6 i would not do that
22:09 DavidDreezernor for a 4.0 build ~45 to ~48
22:09 DavidDreezerbut from 3 to 4 or back I do
22:10 DavidDreezeri know that isn't necessary
22:10 DavidDreezerbut I like to make sure it's clean
22:11 mtok
22:11 DavidDreezerour fai server is also our debmirror, and it also has a few other jobs too
22:11 mtI usually just do rebuilds of the NFSROOT, that should IMHO suffice
22:12 DavidDreezerstrictly speaking I could do that, yes.
22:12 DavidDreezerIt has become almost autonomic for me to just wipe the server and follow my steps
22:14 mtthen stick with it
22:14 mtthere's nothing better than automation
22:14 mteven if it's just "like automatic"
22:15 DavidDreezermy brain has become so conditions to just wiping the server and starting over that i'd become almost like breathing.  this is why we love fai here.
22:15 DavidDreezerbreak a server? so what? just fai it, :)
22:16 DavidDreezerbut our production FAI right now is old, overscripted, running on and installing etch.  time for it to go.
22:16 FBIfai: 3 mt committed revision 6255 to 7 fai:  setup-storage/Commands.pm: Rebuild partition table only once, unless necessary
22:16 FBIfai: for resizing; also fixes perl compilation error.
22:17 FBIfai:    
22:17 FBIfai: Closes: #607901
22:17 FBIfai: Thanks: Toomas Tamm <tt-fai@kky.ttu.ee>
22:17 DavidDreezeroh, cool.
22:17 mtmikap, r6255 makes another stable release
22:18 mtsorry...
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22:19 FBIfai: 3 mt committed revision 6256 to 7 fai:  several patches got merged into trunk
22:32 DavidDreezeroff for Holidays, MT. Thanks again for all of your help. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
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