[00:02] success [00:03] setup is not required, we booted normally without it [00:03] shall I try this new script, or continue on the plan with install debug with and without modules? [00:04] maybe try the new script first [00:04] can do [00:04] but give me a sec [00:05] ok. [00:05] please try http://paste.debian.net/101609 [00:05] (no full path, no more grub-setup) [00:05] i do not have a hw raid server here at home, i can only test on sw until tomorrow [00:06] sure, that's fine, there's no need to hurry from my POV anyway [00:06] this script has been problematic for more than I year I believe [00:07] well, we shall sove it [00:07] solve [00:08] ok, rebooting client on the new script, 101609 [00:18] mt: see this to get idea (remake similar to the movie scene) -- imagine your boss talking to you like that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeoWIRn55eo&playnext=1&list=PLFE0347FE1D752871 notice the phrase 'that would be...(great|terrrific)' [00:18] but really see original sometimes [00:19] especially if you work in office boxes :) [00:21] bad new Michael, rescue prompt [00:22] alekibango, I should really refrain from using that phrase [00:22] no: [00:22] :) its funny :) [00:22] mt, if you could please not use that phrase from now on, that would be great. [00:23] lmao [00:23] it is a funny move, really. [00:23] DavidDreezer, that's strange ... [00:23] indeed [00:24] could you add set -v -x to the script? [00:25] and then maybe as first step comment out the grub-probe and sed lines and use hardcoded (md0) in the install line [00:25] mt the phrase is funny, if its not from your boss standing above you... :) [00:25] DavidDreezer, btw, no errors reported I guess!? [00:25] yes! [00:25] + '[' -r /tmp/fai/disk_var.sh ']' [00:25] + . /tmp/fai/disk_var.sh [00:25] ++ SWAPLIST=/dev/md1 [00:25] ++ BOOT_DEVICE=/dev/md0 [00:25] ++ ROOT_PARTITION=/dev/md2 [00:25] + '[' -z /dev/md0 ']' [00:25] + chroot /target grub-mkimage --output=/boot/grub/core.img ext2 pc biosdisk raid [00:25] ++ chroot /target grub-probe -tdrive -d /dev/md0 [00:25] grub-probe: error: Cannot open `/boot/grub/device.map' [00:25] my test install is running... results soon [00:25] + GROOT= [00:25] ++ error=1 [00:25] ++ echo [00:25] ++ sed s:md/:md:g [00:25] + GROOT= [00:25] + chroot /target grub-install '' [00:25] install_device not specified. [00:25] Usage: grub-install [OPTION] install_device [00:25] Install GRUB on your drive. [00:26] $BOOT_DEVICE was correct [00:26] but wait, grub-probe [00:27] grub-probe failed [00:27] should that not be $TARGET/boot.grub/devicemap [00:27] or chroot? [00:27] that's where it failed, no? [00:27] argh [00:28] let me edit the script once more [00:28] grub_PC failed [00:29] probably with the very same error? [00:29] try grub-mkimage --help for more info [00:29] please use this one: [00:29] http://paste.debian.net/101613 [00:29] GROOT=$($ROOTCMD grub-probe -tdrive -d $BOOT_DEVICE) [00:29] it is chroot' [00:30] oh, alekibango, seems like grub-mkimage takes different parameters [00:30] you added line 13? [00:30] yes [00:31] alekibango, could you do some manual run of the grub-mkimage command? [00:31] trying to see how to change it such that it works? [00:31] mt: yes [00:31] or maybe see what --help says? [00:31] (and possibly paste that somewhere ...) [00:34] mt plz login to root@80.82.157.135 -- with my password (not fai, v----m) [00:35] see my screen [00:35] target format not specified (use the -O option) [00:36] i386-coreboot, i386-multiboot, i386-pc, i386-efi,i386-ieee1275, i386-qemu, x86_64-efi, mipsel-yeeloong-flash, mipsel-yeeloong-elf, powerpc-ieee1275,sparc64-ieee1275-raw, sparc64-ieee1275-aout [00:36] wow [00:37] that's why grub-install is supposed to take care of this ... [00:37] ic [00:38] maybe we could do some case on grub version [00:38] and 2 different solutions? [00:39] we'll probably end up with something like this [00:39] but maybe we can also get this debugged using DavidDreezer's logs [00:40] I *guess* DavidDreezer needs the grub-mkimage call because otherwise grub would never know that the raid module should be included [00:40] agreed [00:40] and grub-install --modules is breaks the setup there [00:41] my grub-pc version is 1.98* - he has 1.97* [00:42] isn't it even just 1.96* [00:42] ouch not sure [00:42] but anyway, I failed to find a changelog for grub anywhere on the net [00:42] (other than the debian changelog) [00:42] i think people will use (or should use) latest lenny/squeeze/sid versions [00:42] DavidDreezer is using the latest lenny version ... [00:42] mt: will be in bazaar or what they use [00:43] too lazy to checkout ... [00:43] bzr branch http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/r/grub/trunk/grub [00:43] bzr log :) [00:44] no bzr on this host [00:44] they have 1.98 already [00:44] apt-get install is fast :) [00:45] not if you have a Mac :-) [00:45] we have success again [00:45] cool [00:45] so at least we have solution that [00:45] yes, so 101613 works for me [00:45] *is supposed to work* on hw and sw raid [00:45] at least on sw [00:46] i shall check hw tomorrow [00:46] so now it would be nice to do that bit of grub debugging [00:46] certainly [00:46] by adding --debug to the grub-install line [00:46] and later additionally adding --modules="lvm raid" [00:46] with and without, both. will do [00:46] where we expect the boot to fail afterwards [00:48] ok, added debug without modules for round one. then with. I'll tar up the logs and email them to you. [00:51] thx [00:52] it must be so very late there by now! [00:52] it must have reached the point where it is early already! [00:53] DavidDreezer: 2 hours later... not now yet [01:01] it is actually the shell.log that you are interested in, is it not? [01:02] yes, should be that one I guess [01:02] it has all of the debug. I don't want to overwhelm you with the entire hostname/last log dir [01:02] there should be some output similar to the one alekibango posted in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=606035 [01:03] sur eis [01:03] ok, now let me add the modules and run it again [01:03] system boots, right? [01:03] (just to be damn sure) [01:04] ah, le tme check. it should, all we changed was debug [01:04] but i'll check [01:07] yes, it did boot [01:09] ok, i've added --modules="lvm raid mdraid" which we think will fail. [01:11] hmm, stop [01:12] (sorry, probably too late) [01:12] no mdraid [01:12] err [01:12] that will surely fail as it doesn't exist in this version [01:12] just "lvm raid" [01:12] you're right [01:13] ok, easy fix [01:13] well, sorry, I really got to get to bed now [01:13] not a problem. I shall email you these two shell.log files [01:13] that you for all of your help [01:13] thanks a lot! [01:14] see you soon! [01:14] I think i will be able to deploy this week sure looks like it [01:14] gnight [01:18] ErKa (~keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [01:33] DavidDreezer (Adium@c-71-227-156-146.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left #fai. [01:44] pav5088 (~Mark@110.140.154.249) joined #fai. [03:47] pav5088 (~Mark@110.140.154.249) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [04:14] pav5088 (~Mark@58.171.48.140) joined #fai. [04:50] pav5088 (~Mark@58.171.48.140) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:53] vineeth (~vineeth@115.242.36.193) joined #fai. [04:54] hi guys... how r u? [04:54] thanks for ur help 2 days before.. on fai setup.. [04:54] i've installed the client machine... but it shows some error in installing grub.. [04:56] i can login to the client using ssh.. and checked the log files after installation... can i show u that if u could help... [04:57] out of all the classes and scripts.. one failed with exit code 1.. GRUB_PC/10-setup [04:58] shell.log:chroot: cannot run command `install-keymap': No such file or directory [04:58] shell.log:chroot: cannot run command `grub-mkdevicemap': No such file or directory [04:58] shell.log:chroot: cannot run command `grub-mkconfig': No such file or directory [04:58] shell.log:chroot: cannot run command `grub-install': No such file or directory [04:58] shell.log:GRUB_PC/10-setup FAILED with exit code 1. [04:58] shell.log:ERROR: No kernel was installed. Have a look at shell.log [04:58] status.log:GRUB_PC/10-setup FAILED with exit code 1. [04:58] this is my error.log from fai client.. [04:59] i haven't included some name resolution errors.. coz, i know the reason.. and will clear it later... [05:05] vineeth: which distro ? [05:05] squeeze? [05:05] which fai version? [05:07] using raid? [05:07] i'm trying it in ubuntu 10.04 [05:07] lucid.. [05:07] not using raid now.. [05:08] http://pastebin.com/4qQWGXec <- this is my grub_pc script with squeeze and raid1 [05:08] fai-3.4.2 [05:11] http://pastebin.com/k6q6xwiZ [05:11] this is mine.. without raid.. [05:11] actually i was using the default script came with that.. just started playing with fai now...:) [05:12] vineeth: it just might wrong :) [05:12] can u upgrade to 3.4.5 ? [05:12] ohh k ok.. [05:12] i dnt think there is a ppa available in ubuntu with the new version.. i've just added that last week.. [05:13] vineeth: try to understand where the error is [05:13] i'm scratching my head..:) [05:14] ok... can u get console at the end of fai ? [05:14] go there, do export ROOTCMD='chroot /target' [05:14] cd /var/lib/fai/config/scripts/GRUB_PC/ [05:14] ohh ok.. do u know where is ROOTCDM variable is defined? [05:15] vineeth: try running it... [05:15] change it (on server if its nfs readonly) [05:15] to have set -xv [05:15] add --debug to grub-install [05:15] etc [05:15] ok... [05:16] and also you can vim /tmp/fai/shell.log [05:16] or other log files [05:16] or include some vars from there [05:16] look around in the dir /tmp/fai [05:16] ok k.. [05:16] its good to have ssh [05:16] do u know.. in which file we define the ROOTCMD variable? [05:16] ya.. i did ssh.. [05:16] no, but its 'chroot /target' [05:17] and checked those log files.. [05:17] ok.. thx.. [05:17] if you chroot to run shell, run bash [05:17] to get some [tab] working [05:18] paste details on pastebin [05:19] vineeth: today we hacked 2 failed grub_pc installations :) [05:19] here on channel [05:19] but no ubuntu [05:21] ohh k.. [05:21] Action: alekibango needs to rest, see you nextday [05:22] let me try... thank u very much.. [05:36] vineeth (~vineeth@115.242.36.193) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [06:20] vineeth (~vineeth@115.240.15.90) joined #fai. [06:35] vineeth (~vineeth@115.240.15.90) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [06:51] vineeth (~vineeth@115.242.87.153) joined #fai. [06:59] vineeth (~vineeth@115.242.87.153) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [07:13] siggg (~jean@tra78-5-88-172-128-32.fbx.proxad.net) joined #fai. [07:29] vineeth (~vineeth@115.242.55.55) joined #fai. [07:37] vineeth (~vineeth@115.242.55.55) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [07:46] vineeth (~vineeth@115.240.14.98) joined #fai. [08:02] justleen (~leen@rev-131-102.virtu.nl) joined #fai. [08:02] vineeth (~vineeth@115.240.14.98) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [08:50] Nic0 (~courtel@fw.tls.cena.fr) joined #fai. [08:51] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [08:57] Well I have those devices on squeeze: [08:57] ls -l /dev/md* [08:57] brw-rw---- 1 root disk 9, 0 Nov 30 14:01 /dev/md0 [08:57] /dev/md: [08:57] total 0 [08:57] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Nov 30 14:01 0 -> ../md0 [08:57] and /proc/partitions only has md0, not md/0 [09:55] tecneeq (~karsten@p4FE4C9FE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #fai. [10:01] hi gents. setup-storage works fine, however, the fstab generated lacks lines for devpts, hugetablefs, tmpfs and so on. Is there a way to add arbitrary filesystems to the config or should i append my filesystems later with ,,echo >>''? [10:18] ErKa (keryell@m3.wifi.enstb.org) joined #fai. [10:20] no, use ainsl(1) [10:21] i see [10:22] ooo - yesterday my raid1 worked, and today my grub installs without error, but fails to boot, fails to read partitions somehow... [10:26] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:26] Mrfai (~lange@malzmuehle.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [10:28] any comments on fix for #605947? [10:40] Nick change: glance_ -> glance [10:40] Nick change: glance -> Guest235 [10:43] looks OK for me; is this a showstopper for 3.4.5? [10:44] hmpf, still got no release exception for 3.4.5 :-/ [10:46] yes this is a showstopper for 3.4.5. So we need a 3.4.6 [10:48] Mrfai: hmpf :-/ (so you didn't test your commit?) [10:52] I cannot test everything on my own. This was a simple fix, and I didn't though it would break fai-mirror. [10:56] that's why you should have testscripts, use/adjust kantan,& :) seriously: we should not have any commits that break anything, getting 3.4.5 through release-team seems to be hard enough, asking for another round won't be any fun :-/ [10:57] unit testing = good, automated functional tests = bliss [10:57] I know that it would be nice to have a test suite. [10:58] i would vote for kvm instead of virtualbox :) [10:58] we *have* the base for a test suite [10:58] alekibango: it's *there* already: http://grml.org/kantan/ [10:59] i'm happy to extend it based on feedback/wishes/patches/... [11:02] fai + raid should be tested! :) [11:02] we have all sorts of issues [11:02] verwilst (~verwilst@router.begen1.office.netnoc.eu) joined #fai. [11:02] if you provide me your config space i'll check out how to automatically test that [11:13] \sh (~shermann@nat.de.netviewer.com) joined #fai. [11:13] <\sh> moins [11:13] its easy - basic raid1 -- from fresh new setup-storage man page [11:13] (commited yesterday) [11:15] mikap: http://pastebin.com/FqUeXpiZ [11:15] alekibango: ah really that simple, ok - will try to integrate it as test into kantan [11:15] it says: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk. [11:16] Auto-detection of a filesystem module failed. [11:16] or other errors :) [11:16] ooo, it was working yesterday, darn [11:16] and there was no grub-pc update [11:18] alekibango: huh? with which change? fai-update? which version? [11:22] Mrfai (~lange@malzmuehle.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:22] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [11:23] mikap: i dont know, grub is the same, fai is the same... yesterday we played for hours with grub-pc to make it booting finally -- by adding one line http://pastebin.com/4qQWGXec -- and today even this fails for me... :( [11:24] grub installs, but will not update the config now... [11:24] i mean update-grub fails [11:24] alekibango: well, what error message? [11:26] ha, even grub-install fails, wait i need to reboot myself and servers once again :) [11:26] provide according error messages (and what's inside e.g. "$device") [11:26] if you remember my raid config [11:26] my boot and grub device is /dev/md0 [11:27] and root [11:28] $ROOTCMD grub-install --no-floppy --modules="lvm raid" "(md0)" [11:28] /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk. [11:28] yesterday this command worked well [11:29] grrr [11:29] mikap: if you ahve few minutes to hack, i can give you ssh account, those servers are really free for testing [11:30] i mean root access [11:30] alekibango: sorry, no time now [11:30] tecneeq (karsten@p4FE4C9FE.dip.t-dialin.net) left #fai. [11:41] ErKa (keryell@m3.wifi.enstb.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [11:54] alekibango, still there? [11:55] yes :) [11:55] do you ahve some time mt? [11:55] :) [11:55] system still broken? [11:55] yes, as much as it can [11:55] ougr script stopped working for some reason [11:55] did you retry using your original 10-setup? [11:55] not the one we hacked for David? [11:56] this one [11:56] http://pastebin.com/4qQWGXec [11:56] problem is, grub-install ..... '(md0)' fails today [11:56] will doublecheck [11:58] yes thats the one i am using [11:58] got a freshly installed system I could ssh into? [11:58] yes, just a mom [11:59] 80.82.157.133 [12:37] pav5088 (~Mark@110.141.32.65) joined #fai. [13:11] siggg (~jean@tra78-5-88-172-128-32.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [13:13] ErKa (keryell@m3.wifi.enstb.org) joined #fai. [13:20] istall base system (via fai):476 secs. [13:20] install openoffice:21Mins. [13:54] siggg (~jean@tra78-3-82-244-85-196.fbx.proxad.net) joined #fai. [14:05] pav5088 (~Mark@110.141.32.65) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:11] mikap: another simple and failing candidate for testing disk config: http://pastebin.com/wN3fuV1C [14:17] siggg (~jean@tra78-3-82-244-85-196.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [14:27] <\sh> oz_: lol [14:27] <\sh> mikap: when you do the "developer page", please rename me from "Hermann" to "Adig" :) [14:28] you are married now? [14:29] congrats [14:29] <\sh> oz_: yepp :) [14:30] <\sh> oz_: thx :) [14:30] <\sh> oz_: http://www.shermann.name/2010/12/2010-12-03-lifes-changing.html :) [14:32] siggg (~jean@tra78-3-82-244-85-196.fbx.proxad.net) joined #fai. [14:55] siggg (~jean@tra78-3-82-244-85-196.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:59] ErKa (keryell@m3.wifi.enstb.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [16:10] justleen (~leen@rev-131-102.virtu.nl) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:15] \sh: ok, done [16:15] \sh: and congrats! [16:16] alekibango: which error message? mt, any ideas? [16:17] congrats, \sh [16:17] mikap: again, no such device etc [16:17] imho there's nothing wrong with this config [16:17] and when i made it boot grub, initramfs failed to mount root [16:18] you'll have to add the update-initramfs -k all -u [16:18] i did, let me check how it worked out [16:19] alekibango: this looks like something in your setup is broken ;) [16:19] update-initramfs --> cannot read table of mounted file system: no such file or directory [16:19] will not add needed modules [16:20] you are doing this with a $ROOTCMD, aren't you? [16:20] i tried to do that manually, but maybe i am too tired, i will leave raid for another nice day... [16:20] mikap, grub-pc and sw raid is horror [16:21] mt: doesnt change anything... i did it with edited 20-* script from GRUB [16:21] could you paste both of your scripts [16:21] could I ssh in there? [16:21] i am jsut too tired of this... [16:21] mt: let me reboot once more for ou - 5 mins [16:22] mt: yeah, i know :) i'm known as grub-hater ;) [16:22] alekibango, is it something you have to get done today? [16:22] if so, can you maybe just go without RAID? [16:22] mt: i know, i might [16:22] but i will do that one for you [16:23] mikap, I generally like grub [16:23] but the development model sucks [16:23] no changelog anywhere [16:23] commands change syntax without there being major releases [16:24] mt: grub is broken on so many aspects: 1) GNU project (they don't know how to release management), 2) having a bootloader where you don't know whether the bootloader works on next reboot is broken by design [16:25] what do you mean with "GNU project"? [16:25] mikap: you can always use qemu to test it :) [16:26] mt: i'm not aware of any project at gnu.org that's not broken [16:26] alekibango: nice joke [16:26] mikap: its not a joke, i realy did such things in the past :) [16:27] alekibango: sure, scales very well to execute qemu/kvm on each single update-grub/grub-install call... [16:29] hehe. update-grub is not a problem [16:29] having working shell you can boot from cmdline [16:29] try remembering good old lilo days [16:30] verwilst (~verwilst@router.begen1.office.netnoc.eu) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [16:32] alekibango: seems you're not developing installers and get money for fixed hours ;) [16:32] alekibango: lilo was *much* better WRT reliability, if execution of lilo worked then you had a useful bootloader [16:33] i can provide you tons of situations where grub just failes with 'unaligned pointer 0x.' [16:33] but lilo just lacked so many features [16:33] grub as all the features, but is buggy [16:33] it's a trade-off [16:34] mikap: when you reboot your server in server room far far away, this method works :) [16:34] alekibango: kvm? [16:34] mikap: no, lilo failed on me many times [16:35] mt: sure, but lilo worked far better than grub, anyway, discussion won't help because debian doesn't really support lilo anymore and will be dead sooner than later [16:36] indeed [16:46] <\sh> mikap: thx a lot :) [16:48] \sh: congrats. What will be your new irc name? ;-) [16:49] <\sh> Mrfai: hehe..."sadig" would be a problem I think for us citizens ;) [16:49] <\sh> Mrfai: I think I'll stay with \sh ;) [16:50] fine [17:07] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:55] siggg (~jean@tra78-3-82-244-85-196.fbx.proxad.net) joined #fai. [18:55] siggg (~jean@tra78-3-82-244-85-196.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [19:39] cmatei (~cmatei@79.115.207.54) joined #fai. [19:49] ErKa (~keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) joined #fai. [19:59] justleen (~leen@s5591f74f.adsl.wanadoo.nl) joined #fai. [20:03] alekibango, could you paste your final (and working!!) 10-setup script to pastebin? [20:39] ErKa (~keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [20:39] justleen (~leen@s5591f74f.adsl.wanadoo.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [20:59] ErKa (keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) joined #fai. [21:03] justleen (~leen@s5591f74f.adsl.wanadoo.nl) joined #fai. [21:15] DavidDreezer (~Adium@fw0hq.hr01.groupee-inc.net) joined #fai. [21:18] Good evening [21:18] MT, you're looking for me? :) [21:33] ErKa (keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [21:41] DavidDreezer (Adium@fw0hq.hr01.groupee-inc.net) left #fai. [21:59] DavidDreezer (~Adium@fw0hq.hr01.groupee-inc.net) joined #fai. [21:59] justleen (~leen@s5591f74f.adsl.wanadoo.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [23:22] pav5088 (~Mark@123.208.28.175) joined #fai. [23:25] DavidDreezer, still there? [23:28] yes, hi htere [23:33] hi [23:33] sorry for being late [23:33] so could you do some tests with hw raid? [23:33] no worries, i've always something to do [23:33] absolutely. [23:33] does it work? [23:33] I ran one earlier today, at it ran fine [23:34] are you precisely using http://paste.debian.net/101613/ [23:34] but SW failed. I'm currently synching the work we did yesterday to the server here at the office and rebuilding nfsroot [23:34] AFAIK. let me confirm [23:35] in what way did sw fail? [23:35] grub rescue? [23:35] yes [23:35] but I am not sure the scripts that we did at home were synched to here at the office [23:35] so I am doing so again just in case. [23:35] as it was working at home when you logged off for th enight [23:36] once you got it synced [23:37] it'd be nice to see another install [23:37] hoping that it works .... [23:37] but in either case [23:37] a further try without the explicit call of grub-mkimage [23:37] (it is in instsoft right now) [23:37] ok, i am not on 613 right now [23:38] there is one line difference [23:38] I still have setup [23:38] $ROOTCMD grub-install --debug "$GROOT" [23:38] $ROOTCMD grub-setup "$GROOT" [23:38] $ROOTCMD update-grub [23:39] it should be safe to remove the grub-setup call [23:39] I think the debug logs you sent properly confirmed that grub-install does call grub-set [23:39] grub-setup [23:39] ok. this just went into configure., as long as it boots i shall do that [23:39] the HW machine booted perfectly [23:40] it's all about sw raid ... [23:40] I had to rebuild my nfsroot, it was still installing and old 3 version into the client [23:40] I'm pretty confident that it's a space issue [23:41] both my sw and my mw have the same space in /boot [23:41] grub just has 32k for core.img [23:41] no, not /boot [23:41] must be on-disk space before the first partition [23:41] primary /boot 95 ext3 rw,noatime,nosuid,nodev [23:41] oic [23:42] and AFAIK grub will limit itself to 32k [23:42] and all the modules needed for getting access to /boot/grub must be there [23:42] and it even seems to detect that it needs raid [23:42] auto-detect [23:42] we just hit task chboot, let's see what the logs say, then i'll go see if it boots to debian properly [23:42] which it won't need for hw raid [23:43] could you paste the script you were using? [23:43] just for the sake of completeness [23:44] the 10-setup? [23:44] yep [23:44] certainly [23:44] no errors reported [23:45] http://paste.debian.net/101690/ [23:45] ok, still no guarantees that it boots ... [23:45] this worked for HW earlier, let me see if the SW boots normallu [23:48] ok, there we go. both hw and sw booted fine with 101690 [23:48] cool! [23:48]