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08:12 hot-linehi i have problem in my wifi can any body help me ?
08:13 oz_hm. I think you're wrong here.
08:13 hot-line?
08:16 oz_is you question FAI related? do you want to install a host via wifi?
08:18 hot-lineno i wont join
08:19 hot-linewant join
08:19 hot-linesory
08:19 hot-linecan you help me
08:19 oz_you're wrong here, believe me. :)
08:22 hot-linewhere can i find the answer
08:24 oz_I don't know :) depends on your OS and wifi card.
08:26 hot-linemy os is backtrack 4
08:26 hot-lineits linux
08:29 mtyou might want to try #backtrack-linux
08:29 hot-linei have it now
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09:52 FBIfai: 3 mt committed revision 6228 to 7 fai:  Added (modified) fcopy patch as posted on linux-fai-devel by Sabine Schmidt.
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10:40 alekibangohi, i am trying to do simple disk partitioning with raid, but it fails....  my config: http://pastebin.com/8g2UiUFn
10:40 alekibangocan someone please give hint or example for raid config?
11:09 mtHi alekibango!
11:10 mtalekibango, could you give a more detailed description of what you mean by "it fails"?
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12:44 alekibangomt, will, just a moment, i had power failure here...
13:02 alekibangois there picture alternative to pastebin ? :)
13:12 alekibangomt: here is log http://pastebin.com/T42nPNZ1
13:13 alekibangoi am using debian squeeze with fai 3.4.5
13:13 alekibango(and squeeze)
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14:54 mtalekibango, sorry for responding late, I'll take a look at your logs
14:54 alekibangonp, i can understand :)
14:54 alekibangothanks
14:55 mthad a power outage here at home :-/
14:55 alekibangothe thing is, i am not very skilled using mdadm, so the error does nto make much sense for me
14:55 mtit's not an mdadm error actually
14:55 alekibangowell i was not sure what it is
14:56 mthmm, why are you using virtual for your configs?
14:56 mtis that indeed such a setup?
14:56 alekibangonot sure, copied it from some example
14:56 alekibangomt: if you can provide some example for raid, it would be best
14:56 alekibangoreading gramma from man pages didnt really help me muc
14:56 alekibangomuch*
14:57 mtwell, your configuration is correct
14:57 alekibangoexamples are missing all over FAI :)
14:57 mtI just wonder whether you are intentionally using "virtual"
14:57 alekibangono i do not know what that even means :)
14:57 mtseems like there is a bug with virtual+raid
14:57 alekibangois it some lvm thingy?
14:58 alekibangoso how could i make it working? :)
14:58 mtok, you should only be using "virtual" when /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, etc. already exist, e.g., when using a XEN domU
14:58 alekibangoah, no, they do not exist
14:58 mtthen you should remove the virtual in your sda and sdb configs
14:58 mtand give it another try :-)
14:59 alekibangobtw in example i have seen 5 primary partitions
14:59 alekibangoi wanter what that would do :)
15:00 mtI don't quite understand?!
15:01 alekibangoRAID_XEN_VIRTUAL
15:01 alekibango(simple)
15:01 alekibangocontains 5 primary partitions for each drive
15:01 alekibangothats what i used to copy and paste to make my own
15:02 mtyes - so you wonder why more than 4 can be used?
15:02 alekibangoyes
15:02 mtwith "virtual" there's no disk label (like the MSDOS disklabel, which only permits 4 primary partitions)
15:02 mt"virtual" means that setup-storage assumes all these partitions already exist
15:02 alekibangoah :) i never liked xen :)
15:03 alekibangobut thanks
15:03 mtsetup-storage will only create file systems and RAID
15:03 mtso the "EXAMPLES" section of the setup-storage man page isn't yet sufficient?
15:04 alekibangowill look again
15:05 mt(I'm right now just working on the man page, so any input is very welcome!)
15:06 alekibangoproblem   SYNTAX is too dense for most people. i studied computer science, so i can read it, still tis too hard to decipher...
15:06 alekibangoits*
15:06 alekibangosimple example is great
15:07 alekibango Create a softRAID -- example looks incomplete
15:07 alekibangoshould be whole config imho
15:07 alekibango(where did sda1,sdd1 come from?)
15:08 alekibangoother than that, it looks fine
15:09 alekibangohaving more examples always helps a ton to newbies
15:11 mtAs first step I moved the Examples section to the front, before this large grammar section.
15:12 alekibangonice...
15:12 alekibangothanks for the work... i will contribute too, if i will use fai in production
15:14 mtmay I use your configuration as example?
15:14 mt(without the "virtual" though :-) )
15:15 alekibangoyes, if that will work
15:15 alekibangoi am now having funny problem with booting from eth1
15:15 alekibangoip=:::::eth1:dhcp  worked few hours ago
15:15 mtmultiple interfaces?
15:15 alekibangoyes
15:15 alekibango:))
15:15 alekibangonow it again tries to boot from eth0
15:16 mtyou can't rely on eth1/eth0 being consistent interface names
15:16 alekibangothankfully i have ipmi interface...
15:16 mtsee a recent mailinglist post for that
15:16 alekibangonames are ok
15:16 mtBOOTIF might help
15:16 alekibangobootif -- will check ty
15:19 alekibangolooks like BOOTIF=eth1 helped...  thansk!
15:19 alekibangodisks partitioned :)
15:19 alekibangoworks like charm now
Action: alekibango is sending 2 beers to mt UP UP
15:20 mtcool :-)
15:21 alekibangohehe, but worked only on 1 server, 2 failed to boot lol
15:21 mtwhat's going wrong?
15:21 alekibangolinux kernel is using eth0
15:22 alekibangoand will not ask eth1 for 'next server'
15:22 alekibangofailing to connect 192.168.0.1 using eth0
15:23 alekibangoso, the issue is  kernel is using dhcp on eth0 instead of eth1
15:25 mtmaybe you could briefly review https://lists.uni-koeln.de/pipermail/linux-fai/2010-December/008539.html
15:25 mtmaybe there's something in there that helps
15:39 alekibangonot really, but interesting still.. reading kernel docs for ip= now
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17:26 alekibangomt: imho having some ready for usage fai examples (whole config sets) would be very helpfull
17:27 mtwell, at least your configuration is now in the man page
17:27 alekibango:)
17:27 mtI'll check the others ...
17:31 alekibangofew simple examples == like pictures, worth 1000 words in man
18:04 FBIfai: 3 mt committed revision 6229 to 7 fai:  Reworked setup-storage man page
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18:48 alekibangoanother problem is, when i use raid, it installs well, but after reboot there is only dead cursor  there. grub install probably failed somehow on /dev/md0  
18:48 alekibangofound the proof: GRUB/10-setup        FAILED with exit code 1.  
18:49 alekibangoaha, its trying to copy menu.lst :)
18:51 alekibangowell but in squeeze there is grub2
18:52 alekibangoehm, grub-pc  vers. 1.98+xxxx
18:52 alekibangostrange thing is, without raid it worked well
19:30 mtalekibango, which version of FAI are you using?
19:30 mtyou need to use a proper script for grub-pc
19:30 mtin the simple examples there's a GRUB_PC/10-setup
20:00 alekibango3.4.5
20:01 alekibangoha, my examples might be from oldero ne
20:01 alekibangoolder one :)
20:03 alekibango /usr/share/doc/fai-doc/examples/simple/scripts/GRUB   --
20:03 alekibangothere is fcopy -v /boot/grub/menu.lst  
20:03 mtdo you have the GRUB_PC directory?
20:03 mt(in the examples)
20:03 alekibangoha, yes i do,. i guess i used grub dependency hehe
20:04 alekibangowill try
20:04 alekibangothanks for tip
20:04 mtwell, I think you should just copy the 10-setup script from examples /GRUB_PC to your config as GRUB/whatever
20:04 mtthat is, just replace the script that was used before
20:04 alekibango(ifclass I386 || ifclass AMD64) && echo GRUB_PC                                                                                                      
20:04 alekibangoexit 0    
20:05 mtah, ok
20:05 alekibangothats at the end of 50-host-classes
20:05 mtso probably GRUB_PC would be fine :-)
20:05 alekibangoand i have GRUB there
20:05 alekibango:)
20:05 alekibangothats it
20:06 alekibangoi hope squeeze will become stable as promised :) even with some bugs
20:06 mtjust use some resolution that will execute the new script
20:06 mtas promised?
20:06 alekibangoi mean planned
20:07 mtbtw, no guarantees that things will work right away after fixing this GRUB_PC/GRUB mess
20:07 mtbut let's see, together we'll make it work :-)
20:07 alekibangoha, on debian there is no release date has been set
20:07 alekibangobut i have seen its expected to come this year
20:08 alekibangojust before total crash of the american economy
20:11 oz_its ready when its ready
20:12 alekibangoi know what you mean, and you know what i want :)
20:12 alekibangoor you are talking about the economy, heh
20:13 oz_fai-economy? ;)
20:13 alekibango(see gerald celende, founder of trendsresearch.com
20:13 alekibangothat guy is interesting
20:14 oz_Gerald Celente
20:14 alekibangoyes, my fingres are somehawt lazy today
20:23 alekibangobtw i cant find documentation for FAI_FLAGS
20:28 oz_oh yes, I think you're right
20:28 oz_I'll ask thomas if this is really missing, if so
20:29 oz_we'll file a doc bug
20:29 alekibangoif i am not right, its not obvious where to look for it
20:29 oz_http://fai-project.org/fai-guide/
20:33 alekibangoshould i paste 8 lines, or use pastebin?
20:33 alekibangohttp://pastebin.com/uW2dw195
20:33 alekibango grub  -->  error: no such disk.                                                                                                          
20:33 alekibango(md0)
20:34 alekibangooz: i didnt found all FAI_FLAGS listed/explained in guide
20:35 alekibangoonly mentioned few times
20:36 alekibangooh yes, they are there... sorry  -- http://fai-project.org/fai-guide/ar01s07.html
20:38 alekibangobut as 7.3.1 is not mentioned in contents (and has space between fai and flags), its not that easy to find there if you are curious... 1 html  page manual might make sense for some people :)
20:45 alekibangoso, how i installed grub by hand:
20:45 alekibangomkdir /dev/md ; ln -s /dev/md0 /dev/md/0
20:45 alekibangogrub-install --recheck --root-directory=/target /dev/md0
20:46 alekibango# -there are some bugs in grub-install  or related scripts
20:54 mtalekibango, could you do another round of installs?
20:54 mtwith an additional hack
20:54 alekibangosure, i did many and i will do another 100 for sure
20:55 alekibangoluckily i have impi interface :)
20:55 alekibangowhich makes it easier a bit when servers are 100+km away
20:55 mtplease add to your 10-setup script, before any grub-* calls
20:55 mtmount -o bind /dev $FAI_ROOT/dev
20:55 mtmount -o bind /proc $FAI_ROOT/proc
20:55 mtthat's a cruel hack
20:55 alekibangoah, that might work :)
20:57 alekibangowell, problem with grub is something around md/0  instead of md0
20:58 mthmm, ok, I just read that this was fixed in some version, but I don't know whether this holds for your version
20:58 alekibangoit imho is, its mounted already
20:59 alekibangodev was --binded  and proc is mounted 2 times
20:59 alekibangoand sysfs etc
20:59 alekibangomt: its more like grub problem
20:59 mtso try another hack:
20:59 mtrewrite /dev/md/0 to /dev/md0
20:59 mtvia sed magic
20:59 alekibangoi just will make the directory and link for me :)
21:00 mtI think /dev/md0 should exist as well
21:00 alekibangowriting it atm
21:00 alekibangosimple change and might work for me, but grub still has some bug
21:01 mtwhich grub version is that?
21:02 alekibangosqueeze - grub-pc 1.98+20100804
21:03 alekibangoehm 1.98+20100804-8
21:03 mthmm, that one was fixed long ago:
21:03 mthttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=475585
21:08 alekibangoyou know, bugs are really hard to kill
21:08 alekibangothats why insecticides are so dangerous
21:09 mt:-)=
21:34 oz_alekibango: I think thomas will be happy to include a little patch in the doku ;)
21:34 oz_(and I really this this would be a real improvement with almost zero work)
21:35 alekibangooz_: my bug is still alive, even when i used insecticides
21:35 oz_?
21:36 alekibangowell, grub_pc  fails to install on raid
21:36 alekibangofor me -- on squeeze
21:36 oz_squeeze the bug, then. ;)
21:36 alekibangotrying
21:36 alekibangoit moves lol
21:36 alekibangothis talk reminds me starship troopers
21:36 oz_dunno, did you google for it?
21:37 oz_iirc, there were a lot of mails about it
21:37 oz_and a lot of changes recently
21:37 alekibangook, reading now
21:38 alekibangowhat $ROOT_COMMAND does in scripts?  is it only chrooting to /target ?
21:39 oz_yes, & set the vars accordingly.
21:40 oz_but I don't know too much about recent FAI
21:40 oz_will get into it again around january, I guess.
21:40 oz_my last big fai job was in 2005 ;)
21:40 oz_oh no 2007
21:40 alekibango:)
21:40 oz_but that was just a weekend to setup a linux pool
21:41 oz_nothing big
21:41 mt$ROOTCMD expands to chroot /target
21:41 mtthat's all
21:41 mtbut that's already quite a lot :-)
21:41 alekibangoi am trying to install openstack cluster using fai...
21:42 alekibangolater bigger cloud...
21:42 oz_alekibango: I hope you do more than just trying to do it!
21:42 alekibangofor now its few machines
21:42 alekibangowell. openstack is still young, would be scared to use it on customers
21:43 alekibangobut its very promising project
Action: oz_ want to do an opensource cash point soultion \w FAI
21:43 alekibangocash point ? troll on a bridge?
21:43 alekibango:D
21:44 oz_no for supermarkets and such
21:44 oz_also, nothing really big
21:44 alekibangoic
21:44 oz_I have a friend running a supermarket, and he has some visualbasic coded crap
21:44 alekibangooh, that sounds evil as google
21:45 oz_it's very small, I think I can do it.
21:45 alekibangooz_: there si some floss software for this
21:45 alekibangonot sure about name, but i have seen some
21:45 oz_?
21:45 oz_floss?
21:45 alekibangofree/libre/opensource software
21:46 oz_yea, I'll look when it'S time. I think so, too.
21:46 oz_but these merchants are special
21:46 oz_they all want some specialities :)
21:47 oz_but we're getting off-topic.
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23:13 DavidDreezerdoes anyone know of there has been some kind of regression in setting HOSTNAME in recent 4.0 experimental versions?
23:14 mthmm, no, not that I would know of
23:15 mtwhat's happening?
23:15 DavidDreezerI have tried everything Micheal
23:15 mtwith everything being what?
23:15 DavidDreezeri put HOSTNAME=myname in pxelinux.cfg script
23:15 DavidDreezerno go
23:15 mtit should be lowercase hostname=
23:15 DavidDreezertried a /$FAI/config/class script
23:15 DavidDreezeras in something such as 45-hostnanme
23:16 DavidDreezerwhich read hostname myname
23:16 DavidDreezerno go
23:16 DavidDreezerno matter how I try the 50 hostname script finds no hostname
23:16 DavidDreezerhowever older versions of 40 experimental this worked
23:16 DavidDreezeri am baffled
23:16 mtwhich version of FAI *and* which distro?
23:16 DavidDreezerdebin
23:16 DavidDreezerlenny
23:17 DavidDreezerand today i updated to 40 45, which is the latest
23:17 DavidDreezerI was trying the new /GRUB_PC 10 script for you
23:17 DavidDreezeror, planning to
23:18 DavidDreezerroot@faiserver:/lib# dpkg --list | grep fai
23:18 DavidDreezerii  fai-client                        4.0~beta2+experimental45   Fully Automatic Installation client package
23:18 DavidDreezerii  fai-doc                           4.0~beta2+experimental45   Documentation for FAI
23:18 DavidDreezerii  fai-server                        4.0~beta2+experimental45   Fully Automatic Installation server package
23:18 DavidDreezerii  fai-setup-storage                 4.0~beta2+experimental45   automatically prepare storage devices
23:18 DavidDreezerit is on a lenny server, installing lenny
23:18 DavidDreezerwas working fine, now not so fine.
23:19 DavidDreezerlet me check my pxelinux.cfg file again
23:19 mtwould you know which version you were using before?
23:20 DavidDreezeri can check.  in my pxelinux.cfg file i have HOSTNAME in the kernel vars, not lower case
23:20 mtlogs in /var/log/dpkg.log might help, if necessary
23:20 DavidDreezerit should be lower?
23:20 alekibangoyes iirc
23:20 mtyes, should always be lowercase
23:20 DavidDreezerfor that matter. why does it need to be there?
23:21 DavidDreezerif i have a /classes/45-hostname script
23:21 DavidDreezeri echo hostname myname, i echo it into additional.var and simply echo HOSTNAME-myname
23:21 DavidDreezerwhy is it that 50 script cannot understand that?
23:22 mtwell, the question is how your system (upon installation) finds out what its hostname is
23:22 mtyou could get that via DHCP
23:22 mtif that isn't set up or doesn't work, you can use the kernel command line
23:23 DavidDreezeri was using 41 previous to today, just checked.
23:23 mtkernel command line should really be a fallback as you need a separate cfg file for each system
23:24 DavidDreezeri agree, i'd much rather not put it into kernel or even dhcp at that
23:24 DavidDreezerI was successfully using a file in /classes
23:24 DavidDreezerI wrote a script 45-mac-vars
23:24 mthmm, ok, so that seems like a different issue then!?
23:25 DavidDreezerwell, that stopped working
23:25 DavidDreezerso i fell back to kernel
23:25 DavidDreezerand found it not working for me either
23:25 DavidDreezerhowever maybe the uppercase was the issue on that
23:26 DavidDreezeranyway my 45 script read the mac, and found a file named by mac (i perfer that over hostname) which contained speciual vars for the individual host
23:26 DavidDreezersuch as ip address, hostname,
23:26 DavidDreezerwas working. stopped working
23:27 mtsorry, I fail to find a change that could actually be causing this
23:27 DavidDreezeri was relying on this
23:27 DavidDreezerhttp://www.mail-archive.com/linux-fai@uni-koeln.de/msg02860.html
23:27 DavidDreezerwhich no longer works
23:27 mtBut as it stands this seems to be all your code that is being executed!?
23:27 DavidDreezerthe code is executing yes
23:28 DavidDreezerbut the 50 script fails to detect the hostname i set in 45
23:28 DavidDreezerfails to detect it from any way I can figure out how to set it
23:28 mtdid you verify that at the very end of 45 hostname is still set to what you expected?
23:29 DavidDreezeryes, at the end of 45 i echo $HOSTNAME >> addition.var
23:29 mtbtw, just to make one thing sure: your NFSROOT also has the experimental packages?
23:30 DavidDreezeryes, I am sure.
23:30 DavidDreezerso, i look in addtrional.var and the correct hostname is written
23:30 DavidDreezeryet 50 fails to find it
23:30 mtwhat is the exact name of your scripts?
23:30 DavidDreezer01-set-date  10-base-classes  20-hwdetect.source  45-mac-vars  50-host-classes
23:31 mtand which mode of communication are you expecting
23:31 mtjust via variables or should the system hostname be set
23:31 mtcould you maybe paste(bin) those two scripts?
23:32 DavidDreezerwhat I am expecting is that 50-host-class understands the hostname I am trying to set, and applies the right classes
23:32 DavidDreezerpaste(bin)?
23:32 mthttp://paste.debian.net/
23:32 mt(and paste the link here)
23:34 DavidDreezerah. ok. the 45 script is now stripped to but a line or two from what it was. I've been working with it all morning trying to find what happened. let me restore it and I shall paste it
23:34 DavidDreezerI doublechecked the nfsroot, it has the new files
23:34 DavidDreezerI rebuilt it after I updated my mirror
23:35 mtmirror ... using fai-mirror?
23:36 mtthat is, your mirror might be broken if you used fai-mirror at some point
23:37 DavidDreezerusing mkedebmirror
23:38 DavidDreezeri added the experimentals to it though
23:38 DavidDreezerseems to work, so why not use the tools you provide? :)
23:38 DavidDreezerok, I have my scripts ready to paste
23:38 mtok, let's see :-)
23:38 DavidDreezerthere are a few debug echoes in there, as you shall see.
23:40 DavidDreezerok, 45-mac-vars
23:40 DavidDreezerhttp://paste.debian.net/101531/
23:41 DavidDreezer50-host-classes  http://paste.debian.net/101532/
23:41 mtwould you also have the (currently broken) additional.var at hand?
23:42 DavidDreezeri do
23:42 DavidDreezeralso one of the files in /MAC.vars
23:42 DavidDreezerhttp://paste.debian.net/101533/
23:42 mtdo things get any better if you use `hostname` instead of $HOSTNAME in 50-host-classes?
23:42 DavidDreezerthe name of the file is, as you would expect, a mac address
23:42 DavidDreezeri can try that, cannot recall if I have
23:44 DavidDreezeradditional http://paste.debian.net/101534/
23:44 mthonestly, I'm not really sure why this interaction of 45-mac-vars and 50-host-classes would work
23:44 DavidDreezerFAIBASE.var makes up the rest of the info that is needed, it is the default file
23:44 DavidDreezerwould, or would not?
23:45 mtI'm trying to figure out :-)
23:45 DavidDreezersorry.
23:45 DavidDreezeri do appreciate all fo the help you've provided as I go through this project
23:46 mtok, it would work if $HOSTNAME is set properly by a new shell spawned to execute 50-host-classes
23:46 mtyou're welcome :-)
23:46 mtbut I don't know whether this new shell gets spawned at all
23:46 DavidDreezerso I cannot update the %HOSTNAME variable within my existing shell?
23:47 DavidDreezer(which si what I'd assumed I had been doing :) )
23:47 mtwell, you can do that, but it won't have effects outside your shell
23:47 mtchanging a variable in a subshell should never affect its parents...
23:47 mtbut running "hostname" should have those effects
23:49 DavidDreezerI seem to recall someone having an issue similar in the 3.x family, but I cannot find the post about it now.
23:50 mtso, if you could paste an "additional.var" file that would be nice
23:51 DavidDreezerthe way i know for sure that this is all failing is that after 50 has run $TYPE is set to SW_RAID and classes are FAIBASE DEBIAN AND DHCPC
23:51 DavidDreezeri did, did I fail to put it here?
23:51 mtyou might also want to try adding calls to "hostname" in both of your scripts and logging its results
23:51 mtoops, sorry
23:51 DavidDreezerhttp://paste.debian.net/101534
23:52 mthuh, that looks fine!?
23:52 DavidDreezerexactly!
23:52 mtHOSTNAME and HOSTNAME2 seem to have the same value
23:52 DavidDreezeryes!
23:52 mtso what is it that is going wrong?
23:52 DavidDreezerhence my amazement/lack of understanding
23:53 DavidDreezerdo you have 50 in front of you?
23:53 mtyep
23:53 DavidDreezerwith the hostnamer db099.db01.grouipee-inc
23:53 DavidDreezerthe type is secified as SW_RAID in the file
23:53 mtwould you allow me a break?
23:53 mttelephone ...
23:53 DavidDreezerhowever 50 assigns it NOT_SW
23:53 DavidDreezersure
23:54 DavidDreezerand it gives the * classes
23:54 DavidDreezernot the db classes
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