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[09:58] fimblo: hi! 3.4.2 is already available and 3.4.3 or later is expected to be included for squeeze [09:59] i'm just discussing with Mrfai what else should be included in 3.4.4 and i'd like to release 3.4.4 ASAP and ask the release-team for inclusion in squeeze then [09:59] nice. [10:02] But with regards to actual functionality, 3.4.2 and 3.4.4 arent that different are they? We're talking bugfixes? Or did we ever decide to remove the predecessor to setup-storage? [10:03] (sorry, dont remember from conference :) [10:03] \sh (~shermann@nat.de.netviewer.com) joined #fai. [10:05] <\sh> mikap: 3.4.3 in ubuntu archives. thx for your work :) [10:05] fimblo: no feature changes between 3.4.2 and 3.4.4, competely forward and backwards compatible - and setup_harddisks is still available exactly because of this (though it prints a warning what it will be removed in the long run, so >=4.x but only there) [10:05] \sh: great, thanks to you as well [10:06] mikap: thanks for summary :) [10:06] fimblo: you're welcome :) [10:10] ErKa (~keryell@APuteaux-154-1-40-135.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #fai. [11:04] tklassen (~tklassen@p5486FC3D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #fai. [11:08] Favorit (vlad@anarxi.st) joined #fai. [11:08] Hi there [11:08] Guys, we're trying to make lenny boot on HP BL460G6, which basically fails miserably on loading bnx2x firmware while booting kernel. A colleague of mine has already bothered the maillist yesterday, but so far, to no avail [11:09] We've tried pretty much gazillion of kernel versions including backports, moving some udev scripts around in initrd, no matter what we do, the bastard doesn't wanna see the network interface. Anyone had similar experiences or has any ideas? [11:19] http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/firmware-bnx2x ? [11:25] tklassen (~tklassen@p5486FC3D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [11:27] Favorit: your colleague didn't answer my question what's the problem with the grml way-of-life AKA grml-kernel [11:54] mikap: I guess I'm a bit further now, bpo was at least not loading the crc32 module, which is needed for bnx2x. I'll try grml in a sec again, and will tell you for sure [11:56] Favorit: ok [12:05] fwiw, my HP DL 380 were working fine with the grml kernel [12:06] good to know, thanks [12:32] <\sh> al: which generation of 380? G5 / G6 / G7? [12:33] uh, old [12:33] lemme check [12:33] g3 ;) [12:35] <\sh> hehe...so you won't have any problems with debian...try a g5/g6 or G7 then you will need non-free drivers/firmware ;) [12:36] <\sh> oz_: you are so right ;) without bnx2x firmware, no g6/g7 hp series will work out of the box [12:36] the debian stable/testing kernels weren't working iirc [12:36] well, they were booting and network came up, but fai didn't run [12:36] <\sh> al: hmmm? broadcom interfaces? then you need also the broadcom firmware [12:37] <\sh> bnx2 firmware [12:37] <\sh> out of non-free [12:37] <\sh> Favorit: you could also use a ubuntu server kernel from ubuntu 10.04 lts...they are working with the new generations of HPs BL and DL series [12:38] <\sh> even BL460/465G7 are working out of the box... [12:41] \sh maybe you like to make an announcement about the status of FAI packages in maverick to the linux-fai mailing list. [12:43] <\sh> I did this morning? [12:43] \sh: ubuntu-server has the firmware included? [12:43] <\sh> well I replied to mikaps [12:43] <\sh> oz_: yes [12:44] Action: oz_ thinks that not Debian has a problem but these firmware issues are the real problem [12:44] <\sh> oz_: when you install it from the iso...(well, the iso image doesn't come with the bnx2x firmware, that's a bug in lucid) [12:44] <\sh> oz_: but after installation the firmware is there [12:44] <\sh> the old firmware for the bnx2 nics are working out of the box... [12:44] mikap: it just hangs after USB HID initialization [12:46] mikap: so basically it just doesn't boot at all [12:46] Favorit: huh? you did rebuild initramfs? works for so many people, i've no idea why it shouldn't work for you [12:47] <\sh> Favorit: eventually problems with the virtual HID interfaces of ILO? [12:47] alekibango_ (~alekibang@ip-94-113-35-25.net.upcbroadband.cz) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [12:47] alekibango (~alekibang@ip-94-113-35-25.net.upcbroadband.cz) joined #fai. [12:47] \sh: that could be the case. [12:48] mikap: let me try reinstalling that kernel again to make sure initrd is untouched :) [12:48] <\sh> Favorit: I'm not sure, do you have already ILO3 or still ILO2? [12:48] \sh: ILO2 [12:48] <\sh> that should really work out of the box..even with ILO3 on the G7 I didn't have any problems...I think grml kernel and ubuntu kernel are not so different from the drivers [12:49] Favorit: not untouched but you've to build one! [12:58] yeah, i saw that as well by now, there was some, but i'll just rebootstrap fai with that kernel [12:58] butbut, do you have gpg key for me? [13:02] nevermind, found one [13:33] heh, now i did build initrd, and bnx2x isn't even initialized when I boot 2.6.33 [13:34] although modules are there and even firmware is there [13:41] mikap: here by any chance? [13:43] ow, figures, bnx2x.o isn't in that kernel :( [13:47] prolly the firmware isn't "free" enuff...? [13:51] modprobe: WARNING: Error inserting libcrc32c... [13:51] grr, this is getting _really_ annoying [14:07] I really don't get it. crc problem is solved, i am 100% sure firmware is in place (/lib/firmware/`uname -r`/, and /lib/firmware/ to be sure) and still module is bitching it can't load firmware... [14:08] perms? [14:08] in initrd? [14:09] well, even if there. 644 for everything, so reading shouldn't be a problem [14:11] Action: Favorit slowly bangs his head against the wall [14:11] _mud_ (~my_name_i@modemcable094.155-178-173.mc.videotron.ca) joined #fai. [14:11] Nick change: _mud_ -> mud [14:44] I would like to be able to choose the hostname in PXE ( via HOST=name), but once the NFS mirror mounts DHCP over rides this. [14:44] There was a post on the mailing list but the proposed vctemp (2004-October/002494.html) doesn't solve the issue. [14:45] any suggestions where to look? [14:45] fai: 3 lange committed revision 6118 to 7 fai: reinclude code which is needed (closes: #599305) [14:55] holy moly, i got it to run [14:55] mikap: "make your own initrd" is in this case literal ;) [14:55] Action: oz_ thinks Favorit has really big boots :) [14:56] maxy (~maxy@190.55.95.11) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [14:59] maxy (~maxy@190.55.95.11) joined #fai. [15:26] Favorit: huh, why? which initramfs-tools version are you using? i'm not aware of any firmware loading issues wit grml-kernel, initramfs-tools etc [15:29] siggg (~jean@tra78-3-82-244-85-196.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:39] Mrfai (~lange@suenner.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:53] msc (~msc@gw1.cgn3.hosteurope.de) left irc: Quit: msc [16:15] verwilst (~verwilst@router.begen1.office.netnoc.eu) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [16:34] siggg (~jean@tra78-5-88-172-128-32.fbx.proxad.net) joined #fai. [16:35] siggg (~jean@tra78-5-88-172-128-32.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:29] Is it possible to replace PXE booting with a boot CD, but still use an install server? I can't support PXE (specifically DHCP) in all of my environments... [17:34] nevermind, I guess I should have read the man pages. looks like fai-cd -B is what I'm after... [17:40] snark: you can boot from anything you want, even floppy [17:40] but these days, that's tricky ;) [17:42] <\sh> snark: why can't you provide dhcp in all environments? [17:44] mostly paranoia by other people... [17:45] but we have some colo's with a single server no real desire to do ip-helper broadcast tunneling as well [17:45] <\sh> well, dhcphelper addresses are a bliss ;) I'm even deploying internal servers (which are located in karlsruhe, from my dhcp in ffm and doing fai deployment) ;) [17:46] besides, I'd rather just boot off a CD, does fai-cd -B not do what I'm looking for? [17:46] I see the floppy is just a PXE implementation... [17:47] sure it is [17:47] usb stick is also a possible way [17:54] fai-cd is throwing an ERROR, saying I need to a create the NFSROOT, but I (think) I successfully did so already... I tried 'export NFSROOT=/src/fai/nfsroot' and ran it again, but that didn't fix it... [17:55] any ideas? [17:56] nevermind, I guess it didn't work, because I don't have a $NFSROOT/etc/fai in what I thought was my newly create NFSROOt [19:11] \sh (~shermann@nat.de.netviewer.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:42] Ok, I got my CD made, and booted it. How do I control the IP address on it? That is, I don't want to get an IP from DHCP, but I still want to use my install server... [19:44] when I have a DHCP server it boots, although I have a different issue then since busybox halts with an error mounting the nfs filesystem. [19:45] siggg (~jean@tra78-5-88-172-128-32.fbx.proxad.net) joined #fai. [19:45] either by kernel boot parameters or FAI scripts [19:49] ok, boot parameters would work. do you know which boot parameters I would pass though? I only know how to pass IP's to d-i. [19:53] everything talks about using DHCP, BOOTP or RARP [20:01] I see 'ip=dhcp' in the default parameters. I changed that to 'ip=192.168.0.52 netmask=255.255.255.0 gateway=192.168.0.1' but it still freezes up like it's trying to get a DHCP address... [20:06] ok, I'll worry about that later and use DHCP for now. Apparently I don't have aufs modules which is why busybox was halting on me. [20:09] or at least it fails mounting an aufs system... [20:09] so I was missing bnx2_firmware. I chroot to my FAI nfsroot, installed it, and re-created the CD, that worked fine. Now I tried to do the same thing, but it doesn't look like it worked for the aufs modules... any idea? [20:12] ErKa (~keryell@APuteaux-154-1-40-135.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [20:22] ok, I got the module installed on the CD. Now it fails 'mounting aufs on /root failed: no such device' there is no /root directory, is that the problem?!? [20:22] I was able to mount remotehost:/srv/fai/nfsroot /live/image so I know aufs is working... that failed before. [20:27] snark: which fai version are you using? [20:31] snark: you'll find some examples in the FAI example scripts [20:32] 3.4.2ubuntu1~lucid~ppa1 [20:33] I'll look for example scripts... [20:36] "Begin: Running /scripts/live-realpremount ... done." but that files doesn't exist, then "mount: mounting aufs on /root failed: no such device" [20:38] so I'm not really sure what it's trying to mount. I see /scripts/live have some commands like 'umount /root/sys' 'umount /root/proc' and it mounts /root/sys, /root/proc, /root/dev but I don't see it trying to aufs mount anything to /root in the scripts dir [20:38] well, unless it's masked by a variable I guess [20:39] this is with the minimal boot cd, ie 'fai-cd -B' [20:43] it does seem to be a script in the initramfs-tools/scripts dir I can play with some.. but I'm not entirely sure what is supposed to be happening... [20:51] ok, added a mkdir /root to the top of the live scripts, and I'm getting somewhere... so I guess that was it. now I have to battle some ssh permission issues and see what happens. [20:59] mud (~my_name_i@modemcable094.155-178-173.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [21:01] siggg (~jean@tra78-5-88-172-128-32.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:17] ok, it's actually working, except it seemed to run apt-get update/upgrade against lenny when I'm installing ubuntu. any pointers on where I should change the apt sources? I did make a lenny nfsroot which might be my problem? [21:17] but I was following the jaunty howto on the wiki.... [21:19] bah, it didn't work, grub was not installed, I can investigate this... [21:23] er, grub may have been installed, but it's not reading the configs. grub was previously installed so I'm not sure if it was installed or not... [00:00] --- Thu Oct 7 2010