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| 13:49 \sh | oh well...can someone tip me how udev enumerates pci devices? |
| 13:50 \sh | I have here one SmartArray P400i and a SmartArray P800 ... one on IRQ11 and the other one on IEQ10 ... P400i is bootcontroller on slot0 and p800 on slot1 ...but for the linux kernel is the disk attached to p800 c0d0 and not c1d0 as expected |
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| 14:07 BlindBunny1 | \sh: hm, I'm not sure on the enumeration part. Have you tried to influence the name via the usual udev naming rules in /etc/udev/rules.d/? |
| 14:09 \sh | BlindBunny1, no...it's during FAI installation run...there I can't influence the udev part ... and I really don't want...I just want to really know how the kernel enumerates the devices...on PCI IDs (higher pci ids come first) or on IRQs??? |
| 14:18 BlindBunny1 | \sh: hm, I only know that at the lowest level, the kernel recursively scans the tree of PCI devices as represented in the PCI config space memory. I have no clue how that later translates into device names. I'm fairly sure that IRQ numbers are not a factor because to the PCI scanning code, they're just one of many properties of a PCI device. |
| 14:19 mgoetze | i don't think the kernel is relevant except possibly in the order in which it reports to udev, which may be random or change with the next kernel version |
| 14:20 mgoetze | all actual naming is done by udev |
| 14:21 BlindBunny1 | I'd second that |
| 14:24 BlindBunny1 | I'd expect that setting udev rules for a FAI root file system for install time works just the same as for any other system. Just edit them in the nfsroot and re-create the initrd, I guess... |
| 14:51 \sh | I'll think about that to add it to the (DC)² configuration options... |
| 15:00 BlindBunny1 | oi, dc2 looks pretty cool - I didn't know something like that existed |
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| 17:54 maxyz | I'm getting the message: mount.nfs: mount point /var/lib/fai/config does not exist but it doesnt seem to be the same problem as described in the topic work around. |
| 17:57 mikap | maxyz: does my fix work for you? |
| 18:01 maxyz | Anyway its a squeeze + fai 3.4.1 installation. With the live-initramfs from squeeze (2.0.0-1), so there is no mount_break in scripts/live (/usr/share/initramfs-tools I assume). |
| 18:03 mikap | you're talking about the /usr/share/initramfs-tools/ directory issue? |
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| 18:04 maxyz | mikap: ? |
| 18:05 mikap | maxyz: i can't follow you ;) for the /var/lib/fai/config problem there's a fix available and pending for inclusion in squeeze as well |
| 18:05 maxyz | mikap: Previously you pointed my to this fix: https://lists.uni-koeln.de/pipermail/linux-fai/2010-August/008209.html. |
| 18:06 maxyz | The patch is for scripts/live, which I assume is the one now present in /usr/share/initramfs-tools |
| 18:06 mikap | this patch is for live-boot[-initramfs], which is what's known as live-initramfs |
| 18:07 maxyz | If thats the case, the script have change to the point were the patch no longer applies. |
| 18:07 mikap | you're aware that the same url provides a refreshed patch? |
| 18:07 mikap | upstream applied it: http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/live-boot/news/20100901T164713Z.html |
| 18:10 maxyz | mikap: Ok, so it's to be expected that squeeze be realeased with live-initramfs version 3.0~a2.1? |
| 18:11 mikap | 3.0~a3-1 is available already, not sure which version will become in squeeze finally |
| 18:12 mikap | i'll be working on the initramfs-tools directory problem as soon as fai 3.4.1 entered testing, ~5 days until migration takes place |
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| 18:22 \sh | mikap, * Using allow-hotplug instead of auto in automatically created |
| 18:22 \sh | /etc/network/interfaces file. |
| 18:23 mikap | \sh: ECONTEXT |
| 18:23 \sh | mikap, changelog http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/live-boot/news/20100901T164713Z.html <- this allow-hotplug syntax is the new world order for e.g. bonding interfaces |
| 18:24 \sh | but only for debian ;) |
| 18:24 \sh | ubuntu doesn't know anything about hotplug interfaces |
| 18:24 mikap | \sh: though 3.x releases aren't targeted for squeeze :-/ |
| 18:24 mikap | the live-* stuff in debian is just a mess... |
| 18:26 mikap | \sh: ah, allow-hotplug is in live-boot 2.0.1-1 as well |
| 18:27 \sh | yes... |
| 18:29 \sh | actually it would be a good idea to make a decision between debian and derivatives which are not using allow-hotplug helper |
| 18:30 mikap | why doesn't ubuntu support allow-hotplug? as in technical reasons i mean, no bashing, just no idea |
| 18:32 \sh | mikap, honestly I have no idea...I stumbled upon this problem, when there was the new configuration for bonded interfaces |
| 18:33 maxyz | mikap: I installed live-boot 3.0~a2.1, recreated the initrd.img, and got the same error. |
| 18:33 \sh | mikap, debian said: use allow-hotplug at some time, ubuntu took it into their release notes until I filed a bug, because there is no allow-hotplug in ubuntu :( |
| 18:33 \sh | it's new world order for ifenslave-2.6 to be more precise |
| 18:34 mikap | maxyz: really? :-/ |
| 18:34 mikap | \sh: uf ok, sounds strange and bit "do not want" :) |
| 18:36 \sh | mikap, well, debians ifenslave-2.6 documents the allow-hotplug style for those bonded interfaces to allow sysV or upstart to deal with the right way...(allow-hotplug eth0...) but ubuntu doesn't ship allow-hotplug helper so, for ubuntu the written documentation failes and you won't have any bonded interfaces anymore after restart ;) |
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| 18:37 maxyz | \sh: Why would anyone set allow-hotplug bond0 ? |
| 18:37 mikap | \sh: brrrr |
| 18:37 \sh | maxyz, no...the other way around..you hotplug eth0 and bond them to the master in the iface stanca |
| 18:38 maxyz | \sh: But you don't need to set any configuration for slaves. |
| 18:38 \sh | you tell auto bond0; iface bond0 inet static \n bond-slaves none...and before you define bond0 you define allow-hotplug eth0 \n iface eth0 inet manual\nbond-master bond0 |
| 18:39 \sh | maxyz, well, in old times, that was correct, now it's not correct anymore regarding ifenslave-2.6 |
| 18:40 \sh | maxyz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/487389/ that's a working config for karmic/lucid/maverick and eventually squeeze just replace auto {eth0,eth1} with allow-hotplug |
| 18:42 maxyz | \sh: So, the missing feature is bond-master and bond-primary in eth interfaces? |
| 18:48 \sh | maxyz, the missing feature is upstart, systemd and friends not handling virtual interfaces correctly |
| 18:49 xioxous | i've got a question about the readlink line in Fstab.pm for setup-storage - is it necessary - it seems to break fstabkey:device with squeeze (points to dm-[0-9] which change) and uuid isn't supposed to be used with lvm (also uuid with lvm doesn't work with lenny) |
| 18:55 mikap | xioxous: can you please ask this on the mailinglist? mt (maintainer of setup-storage) will surely help you there |
| 18:55 mikap | maxyz: can you please investigate on the aufs problem? |
| 18:58 xioxous | sure thing |
| 19:08 maxyz | mikap: Doing a mkdir -p $FAI in /usr/lib/fai/get-config-dir-nfs before mounting mounts starts installing, but it will probably fail somewhere else.. |
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| 19:13 maxyz | How do I get rid of the FAI banner in the installing computers? |
| 19:14 maxyz | Argh, I forgot to upgrade live-boot-initramfs-tools.. Now seems to be working. |
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| 19:27 mikap | maxyz: so works as expected now with the version we're targeting towards squeeze? |
| 19:34 maxyz | mikap: Yes. |
| 19:34 maxyz | I still can't get the installation to work, sadly. |
| 19:51 mikap | maxyz: ok that's good news; where does it fail? |
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| 20:31 maxyz | mikap: I'm not sure, the error log contains lots of nis script failures that I assume are generated by insserv whenever it tries to reorder scripts. And in the end there is a message of /boot/grub/video.lst not being found. |
| 20:32 mikap | the nis is irrelevant IIRC, though the insserv is new to me (though i strongly avoid to use that anyways) and not aware of the /boot/grub/video.lst issue |
| 20:33 maxyz | mikap: Neither of those look like an error. But just to be sure I chrooted /target, grub-install /dev/sda, update-grub, everything looked great, but the machine wouldn't boot. :( |
| 20:34 mikap | :-/ |
| 20:36 maxyz | mikap: In fact, that was the second time I installed that machine, the first time I let it reboot without any admin intervention with the same resultand also wouldn't boot. |
| 20:36 maxyz | s/sult.*$/sult./ |
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