| 00:13 ikarus | how is FAI intended to change it's boot order after install ? looks like, ssh back to install server and run fai-chboot ? |
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| 07:24 \sh | moins |
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| 08:56 mgoetze | ikarus: pxelinux.cfg, and yes |
| 09:08 FBI | fai: 3 mt committed revision 5865 to 7 fai: - updated patches to current trunk |
| 09:08 FBI | fai: - added patch for dhcp3->dhcp4 transition such that FAI works on both lenny and |
| 09:09 FBI | fai: squeeze. |
| 09:22 alekibango | hello. why is fai mirror needed when i do fai-cd? i would like to use my approx instead... |
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| 09:31 Mrfai | you can do that, but it needs some manual work. |
| 09:31 alekibango | hmm you mean like changing source? |
| 09:32 Mrfai | give an emty directory for the mirror when calling fai-cd and adjust the sources.list on the fai-cd |
| 09:32 alekibango | ahh, a trick |
| 09:32 alekibango | :D |
| 09:33 Mrfai | or just leave the partitial mirror on the fai-cd _and_ use approx |
| 09:35 alekibango | btw what should i do when i cant control the dhcp server and i need to use fai? how do i configure the network for the computer i want install? |
| 09:35 oz_ | use the "ip=" kernel boot paramter |
| 09:36 oz_ | parameter, even. |
| 09:36 Mrfai | on the fai-cd, there are grub menu entries using a fixed IP address |
| 09:36 alekibango | that ip from cmdline will get parsed and used to configure network on the new computer? |
| 09:37 alekibango | i thought its just helper for kernel when you cant use dhcp (like i cant) |
| 09:37 alekibango | luckily i can use ipmi when things get ugly :D |
| 09:37 alekibango | (servers are faar away from me) |
| 09:39 alekibango | hmm i am trying fai from sid... and i created a fai cd.. booted it to try installing fai server -> it failed with INTERNAL ERROR in setup-storage: fstabkey undefined |
| 09:40 mgoetze | alekibango: and you have an fstabkey in your disk_config? |
| 09:40 alekibango | hmm need to check. maybe not |
| 09:40 alekibango | i just used the provided 'demo' |
| 09:40 alekibango | thought it will work |
| 09:42 alekibango | so it will not be internal error perhaps, but something between chair and keyboard :D |
| 09:49 alekibango | hmm will try that later. thanks for help so far. |
| 09:53 mgoetze | alekibango: unfortunately the provided simple-examples are still optimized for lenny |
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| 10:09 FBI | fai: 3 mt committed revision 5866 to 7 fai: fixing a bug when LVM is used on entire disks |
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| 14:08 siretart | hi |
| 14:26 siretart | hat jemand die mobilnummer von stephan zur hand? |
| 14:33 aptituz | hat jemand die mobilnummer von Peter zur Hand? |
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| 17:06 mgoetze | aptituz: welcher peter? |
| 17:09 aptituz | mgoetze: keine Ahnung, ich fand die Frage nur komisch und wollt was ähnlich komisches antworten ;) |
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| 18:28 Operator23 | I do not have a /usr/share/fai/subroutines file. |
| 18:28 Operator23 | Why would this be the case? |
| 18:38 mgoetze | aptituz: ahja, also mir war klar welcher stephan gemeint war und warum siretart heute danach fragt :P |
| 18:38 mgoetze | Operator23: maybe you don't have fai-client installed? |
| 18:39 mgoetze | Operator23: or maybe you meant /usr/lib/fai/subroutines ? |
| 18:39 Operator23 | Nope, it's there. |
| 18:39 Operator23 | Or rather, that package is installed. |
| 18:39 Operator23 | OK, I got the wrong path from the docs here: |
| 18:39 Operator23 | http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/fai-guide/ar01s07.html |
| 18:40 mgoetze | could you file a bug against fai-doc about that, please? |
| 18:41 Operator23 | Sure; could you point me where to go to do so? |
| 18:41 mgoetze | probably you just need to run the command "reportbug" |
| 18:42 Operator23 | Thanks. |
| 18:42 mgoetze | actually i can probably fix this myself :) |
| 18:43 FBI | fai: 3 mgoetze-guest committed revision 5867 to 7 fai: Minor doc bug (wrong path) |
| 18:43 mgoetze | let's hope i didn't break anything :) |
| 18:44 Operator23 | Ah, thanks. |
| 18:45 mgoetze | mikap: r5867 would be relevant for a stable branch, i guess :) |
| 18:59 ikarus | so erm, if you need to get fai-chboot working from the clients ? you really need a passwordless login on the server which can change the filesystem ? |
| 18:59 ikarus | (so the FAI installer at the end can automatically disable network boot) |
| 19:04 mgoetze | ikarus: i think so, yes. you can put an ssh private key in your nfsroot |
| 19:04 ikarus | mgoetze: mmm, k |
| 19:04 ikarus | that would be ideal |
| 19:05 mgoetze | (i haven't used the feature myself) |
| 19:05 ikarus | that way I can atleast mandate a command and point it via a safe wrapper |
| 19:05 ikarus | mgoetze: I'm setting up 23 Access Points in 2 days using FAI, while not having used FAI other then for some experiments before :) |
| 19:06 ikarus | oh and the install is running on boxes without VGA :) |
| 19:06 ikarus | go silly... |
| 19:06 Operator23 | ikarus: Nice number of machines. |
| 19:06 mgoetze | i'm sure other people would be interested in your wrapper if you get it working... you should send it to the fai-user mailing list or ask MrFai for a wiki account and put it there |
| 19:06 mgoetze | btw, what hardware are you using for your APs? |
| 19:07 ikarus | mgoetze: PC Engines ALIX |
| 19:07 ikarus | forgot the exact type |
| 19:07 mgoetze | nice, i have one of those as my home router |
| 19:07 ikarus | yup |
| 19:08 ikarus | these will run the entire GUADEC wireless network |
| 19:08 ikarus | (no pressure *snort* |
| 19:08 mgoetze | i might get a chance to set up a multi-AP wireless network in 2012 but i'm afraid i'd need to find some cheaper hardware |
| 19:08 ikarus | mgoetze: heh, at work I've had one based on Linksys APs for ages |
| 19:09 mgoetze | how did you decide on 23... is there some rule of thumb about nr. of APs per area unit? |
| 19:09 ikarus | but this is a network for 300 - 500 users.... |
| 19:09 mgoetze | heavy users i'm sure :) |
| 19:09 ikarus | mgoetze: yeah, 3 APs per room, 6 APs for the large room, 3 APs in the lounge, 3 APs in the lobby |
| 19:09 ikarus | and uh, I forgot one or two somewhere |
| 19:09 ikarus | anyway, there is logic ot the madness |
| 19:10 mgoetze | must be pretty big rooms |
| 19:10 ikarus | otoh |
| 19:10 ikarus | mgoetze: seat 50 - 100 people each |
| 19:10 ikarus | mgoetze: and a single AP will only handle around 25 - 30 people comfortably |
| 19:11 mgoetze | ah i see :) |
| 19:12 mgoetze | maybe i could ask an alix distributor whether they'd be willing to do a leasing deal for 10-20 units... oh well far-off future problem for me :) |
| 19:12 ikarus | heh |
| 19:13 ikarus | we are tempted to get PC Engines to customize some units with proper PoE instead of the hackish solution they run now |
| 19:13 ikarus | ALL AP wires have to be lead back to a large power bank |
| 19:13 ikarus | while with proper PoE we'd just drop a PoE switch per room |
| 19:14 ikarus | the option with the current solution is a Power injector per machine, or our large bank |
| 19:20 mgoetze | oh really, i thought the injector was just for people who don't have poe switches |
| 19:21 ikarus | mgoetze: nope, they use 7 - 18 volt on blue/brown pair instead of 48 volts + sensing logic PoE uses |
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| 20:04 Operator23 | My confdir hook does not appear to be executing at all. |
| 20:04 Operator23 | Any idea what I might have missed? |
| 20:05 mgoetze | Operator23: is it executable? |
| 20:05 Operator23 | Yup. |
| 20:05 Operator23 | 755, root:root |
| 20:05 Operator23 | Is that OK? |
| 20:05 mgoetze | yes |
| 20:05 mgoetze | what's it called? |
| 20:05 Operator23 | I copied it, so it's "confdir" and "confdir.FAIBASE" |
| 20:06 Operator23 | previously I was just using confdir.FAIBASE |
| 20:06 mgoetze | uhm i don't think confdir is the name of any task |
| 20:06 mgoetze | when did you want it to be run? |
| 20:06 Operator23 | It's the first task where I'm looking |
| 20:06 Operator23 | Right at the start |
| 20:07 Operator23 | http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/fai-guide/ar01s07.html |
| 20:07 Operator23 | I'm in a university CS department; we're using a version of FAI from at least two years back |
| 20:07 Operator23 | I'm trying to bring us up to speed. |
| 20:07 mgoetze | oh, well your config dir obviously isn't available before that task is run |
| 20:08 mgoetze | so fai won't know you wanted to run a hook until it's too late |
| 20:08 Operator23 | Oooook. |
| 20:08 Operator23 | That makes sense. |
| 20:08 Operator23 | So what's the earliest I can run a hook? |
| 20:09 Operator23 | Since these machines are in all sorts of places physically, an early part of the install process is authentication. |
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| 20:09 Operator23 | In the running ancient version, the confdir hook takes care of this. |
| 20:13 mikap | mgoetze: thanks :) |
| 20:13 mikap | mgoetze: i'll work with MrFai on stable release next week at debcamp |
| 20:25 mgoetze | Operator23: i guess in the ancient version the config space was included in the nfsroot |
| 20:26 mgoetze | Operator23: anyway, try setup instead of confdir, if that's too late you'll have to hack the nfsroot |
| 20:26 mgoetze | gnight for now |
| 20:28 Operator23 | I switched it to setup and it still did nothing... I may have screwed something else up. |
| 20:35 Operator23 | Thanks for your help in any case, I'll be back eventually. |
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