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| 07:17 mgoetze | david_: ok so your problem is probably that the lenny kernel calls your disk /dev/hda and the lucid kernel calls it /dev/sda |
| 07:18 mgoetze | david_: the solution depends on how you are installing grub in fai |
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| 07:20 mgoetze | telmich: https://launchpad.net/~fai/+archive/ppa/+packages |
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| 08:04 mgoetze | Mrfai: you didn't register our domain yet? :) |
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| 09:05 Adri2000 | hi |
| 09:08 Adri2000 | Mrfai: I think when $ROOTPW is used in the scripts, it should be protected with quotes so that it works even if the user sets an empty root password |
| 09:11 Adri2000 | Mrfai: in my case, I set up sudo and want to disable the root password (like in an ubuntu default install), so I set an empty $ROOTPW |
| 09:24 Mrfai | do you have a patch for that? |
| 09:27 mikap | Mrfai mgoetze stockholm -> http://michael-prokop.at/blog/2010/07/08/report-from-fai-developer-workshop-072010/ |
| 09:27 stockholm | cool |
| Action: mikap now preparing the text for Debian Weekly News |
| 09:31 Adri2000 | Mrfai: I don't, it's just about adding quotes. but I can prepare one if you want |
| 09:32 Mrfai | mikap: wirst du auch noch eine kurze Mail an linux-fai schicken? |
| 09:32 mikap | Mrfai: jepp |
| 09:33 Mrfai | Adri2000: you mean this line: $ROOTCMD usermod -p $ROOTPW root |
| 09:33 Mrfai | changing into $ROOTCMD usermod -p "$ROOTPW" root |
| 09:34 Adri2000 | yep, I'm preparing the patch. there are a few files where it's needed |
| 09:35 Mrfai | oh, it's not needed. I think I will find all locations of ROOTPW |
| 09:36 Adri2000 | I'm sure you will :). otherwise I've done http://adrishost.net/~adri2000/rootpw-quotes.patch |
| 09:37 Mrfai | mikap: push blog also to planet debian? |
| 09:37 mikap | Mrfai: happens automatically if i tag it with "debian" which I did :) |
| 09:37 mikap | just takes some minutes until it appears there, but will happen definitely |
| 09:38 Mrfai | fine |
| 09:38 FBI | fai: 3 lange committed revision 5846 to 7 fai: put ROOTPW into quotes, so empty password will work (thanks to Adrien |
| 09:38 FBI | fai: Cunin for the patch) |
| 09:39 Mrfai | Adri2000: patch applied. as you see |
| 09:39 Adri2000 | yep, thanks :) |
| 09:51 mikap | Mrfai: it's visible on http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 10:04 the-dude | wow "fai-manager" looks really nice |
| 10:06 aptituz | lol, $COMPANY |
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| 11:31 mgoetze | wow typing is starting to hurt with this sun on my black laptop keyboard... |
| 11:37 \sh | mgoetze: put some ice on it ;) |
| 11:37 \sh | dry ice I mean ;) |
| 11:38 Mrfai | watercooled keyboard? |
| 11:46 FBI | fai: 3 mgoetze-guest committed revision 5847 to 7 fai: First attempt to use quilt. |
| 11:47 mgoetze | Mrfai: can you check whether this works in an experimental build, or whether i need to do something differently? |
| 11:49 mgoetze | oh i already got an email |
| 11:50 the-dude | \sh: what about faializer or fainalizer for your "fai-manager" ? |
| 11:51 mgoetze | ah mrfai already changed some things in simple-examples since i created this patch, so it didn't apply cleanly |
| 11:51 mgoetze | time to buy some ice cream, then i'll continue :) |
| 11:57 mikap | Mrfai: commited FAI news to Debian Project News, Tolimar will proofread that as well |
| 11:58 Mrfai | super |
| 12:00 stockholm | \sh: i would be interested in reading something how you use puppet with fai |
| 12:01 stockholm | or one and the other |
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| 12:02 FBI | fai: 3 lange committed revision 5848 to 7 fai: fai-client.install: remove list_disks |
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| 12:07 david_ | mgoetze: I did not change anything from the default grub install configuration that came in the Debian package. |
| 12:07 david_ | mgoetze: What sort of details do you need? |
| 12:21 mgoetze | david_: so you just took the simple-examples and replaced debian by ubuntu in the sources.list? |
| 12:22 mgoetze | david_: if so, i'm surprised it works at all :) but what fai version are you using? |
| 12:24 mgoetze | can some svn expert tell me how i can tell svn that i want the whole fai repository except tags? (i.e. branches, people, trunk) |
| 12:28 david_ | mgoetze: I followed the wiki guide for setting up an installation environment for Jaunty, but it didn't change anything for the grub portion |
| 12:29 david_ | mgoetze: FAI 3.2.17~lenny1 |
| 12:32 mgoetze | david_: so do you have files/boot/grub/menu.lst/postinst ? |
| 12:33 david_ | mgoetze: yes |
| 12:34 mgoetze | hm i thought that doesn't work on ubuntu |
| 12:34 david_ | Well, it is a debian server and install environment |
| 12:35 mgoetze | yes, but ubuntu mangles handling of this file in the chroot because of ucf |
| 12:36 mgoetze | anyway, it should replace #ROOT_PARTITION# by whatever you get in disk_var.sh |
| 12:36 mgoetze | if you are using uuids i would expect the latest version of setup-storage to set that as ROOT_PARTITION so you might try just upgrading |
| 12:37 david_ | I would assume that it is getting /dev/hda from there, because it was broken in the fstab until I set the uuid option |
| 12:38 mgoetze | can you paste disk_var.sh from your logs to a pastebin somewhere? |
| 12:38 david_ | From the logs on a client after an install? |
| 12:39 mgoetze | yes |
| 12:41 david_ | I'll have to re-type it, the logs are on the client only, but it's only 4 lines |
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| 12:43 ralfgr | howdy! |
| 12:43 david_ | http://pastebin.com/hCxywSZz |
| 12:44 ralfgr | we have a little vmware ESX cluster |
| 12:44 ralfgr | but we don't use vmware templates to depoythe VM's |
| 12:44 ralfgr | instead we use FAI, because we use it also for our "real" servers and clients |
| 12:45 mgoetze | david_: do you install anything other than lucid? |
| 12:45 mgoetze | ralfgr: good idea :) |
| 12:45 ralfgr | now we have a problem with disk alignment |
| 12:46 david_ | mgoetze: not currently. We have 2 versions of lucid to be installed, both have completely diff software packages, and eventually we are planning on expanding to add a debian installer as well |
| 12:46 ralfgr | if we just use FAI to create the partitions, we get problems because of the underlying storage and it's 4K block size |
| 12:47 ralfgr | there is an tool called mbralign that can be used to fix that after creation |
| 12:47 ralfgr | but we would like to create the partions with FAI aligned at install time |
| 12:48 ralfgr | fdisk /dev/whatever1 x b 1 64 |
| 12:48 ralfgr | the standard is 63 but it has to be 64 |
| 12:48 mgoetze | david_: so you could work around the problem by just using a newer kernel in your install system |
| 12:48 ralfgr | is there a way to do this directly with FAI |
| 12:49 mgoetze | ralfgr: i don't know. i think you should email linux-fai@uni-koeln.de, because mt, the main developer of setup-storage, is very active on the mailing list but rarely on irc |
| 12:50 mgoetze | david_: see e.g. my guide for using the grml kernel on the wiki |
| 12:50 david_ | mgoetze: thanks, I'll take a look at it. |
| 12:51 mgoetze | david_: alternatively, use grub2 |
| 12:52 david_ | mgoetze: Is either of those options the preferred method? |
| 12:52 david_ | s/Is/Are |
| 12:53 ralfgr | mgoetze: thanks, I (or a collegue) will contact the list |
| 12:53 mgoetze | david_: i think in the long run you'll want to go with the newer kernel as you might eventually run into hardware not supported by the lenny kernel |
| 12:54 david_ | mgoetze: I'll give that a try, thanks. I'll let you know if I run into any more questions and/or how it turns out. |
| 12:54 mgoetze | sure, np |
| 13:22 david_ | I followed the steps to use the grml kernel and re-ran make-fai-nfsroot. I then attempted to install using fai and a lot of errors just scrolled past too fast to read. All I could catch was that there were a pile of lines about aufs errors because there was not enough disk space available. |
| 13:22 david_ | The system then automatically rebooted, I was unable to ctrl+c and get it to cancel after the first of the errors appeared on a second attempt |
| 13:23 mgoetze | Mrfai: there is a grub-pc patch from mt in experimental branch which looks like it is partially applied. do you have any plans for it? |
| 13:27 mgoetze | ah or not applied at all |
| 13:27 mgoetze | anyway it does some things with simple-examples... |
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| 13:37 Mrfai | I have no plans for this patch. Maybe look into it later. |
| 13:38 Mrfai | Currently we have mechanism that people can comment a patch or vote for the patch to be included into trunk |
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| 14:08 \sh | unglaublich das nun |
| 14:08 \sh | LMU Muenchen moechte mit an dem FAI Manager arbeiten ;) |
| 14:12 Mrfai | wer denn dort? |
| 14:28 \sh | Alexander Thomas |
| 14:28 \sh | gerade die email gelesen, recht foermlich aber motivierend :) |
| 14:29 \sh | thx mikap for the report on p.d.o and on your blog...because of this he wrote the mail :;) |
| 14:31 mikap | \sh: :) |
| 15:01 Mrfai | \sh: wenn die LMU schon FAI einsetzt, bitte auf den FAI Fragebogen hinweisen. |
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| 16:37 mikap | http://grml.org/patches/subroutines_get_rid_of_proc_and_sys.diff - tricky stuff :) |
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| 22:22 FBI | fai: 3 lange committed revision 5849 to 7 fai: 10-misc, subroutines: move adding /etc/hosts entry from task_prepareapt |
| 22:22 FBI | fai: to config space script, add only if host does not belong to class DHCPC |
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