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| 05:59 mgoetze | 36 grad sind fuer samstag angekuendigt... dann den ganzen tag lang an fai arbeiten wird schwierig :) |
| 06:06 oz_ | moin |
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| 08:18 mgoetze | Mrfai: ich hoffe der seminarraum ist klimatisiert :) |
| 08:18 Mrfai | Ich werd ein Luefter einpackaen. Ansonsten gibt es auch draussen WLAN |
| 08:19 mgoetze | wer braucht schon wlan... schatten ist wichtiger :) |
| 08:19 Mrfai | Klimatisiert ister auf jeden Fall nicht |
| 08:24 stockholm | ok, ich werde dünne klamotten einpacken |
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| 08:24 stockholm | brauche ich wohl auch für die bahnfahrt. |
| 08:29 Mrfai | ich wuerde sehr duenne klamotten einpackane. Und die Badehose nicht vergessen. |
| 08:31 stockholm | ja, die habe ich dabei... |
| 08:31 Mrfai | es soll ja so richtig warm^Wheiss werden dieses Wochenende. |
| 08:32 mgoetze | 36 grad am samstag laut vorhersage heut morgen |
| 08:32 stockholm | ahhhhh! |
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| 09:24 mgoetze | Mrfai: have you seen the thread "[DRAFT] Policy for Linux kernel, initramfs, boot loader update process" on d-d? i think we should just drop files/etc/kernel-img.conf from simple-examples |
| 09:36 Mrfai | I have seen the thread, but didn't follow the details. I think Mika will know more about this. |
| 09:37 Mrfai | Anyone how likes to join the FAI workshop, but can't come to Essen? Feel free to join the workshop on IRC here. |
| 09:38 stockholm | yay |
| 09:38 stockholm | Mrfai: are you aware of a cheap and reliable airport taxi service, like minicar (not taxi) from the ryanairairport? |
| 09:38 stockholm | Mrfai: i am trying to find one for mattias |
| 09:39 stockholm | Mrfai: btw: i will be in essen hbf at 15:00 |
| 09:44 the-dude | nice :) |
| 09:44 the-dude | what will be the main language at the workshop? |
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| 09:55 Mrfai | the-dude: shell and perl :-) |
| 09:55 Mrfai | stockholm: No, I don't know a taxi service there |
| 09:59 the-dude | Mrfai: *g* and German I assume? |
| 10:17 stockholm | the-dude: my college will be there, too. he doesnt speak german |
| 10:21 Mrfai | the-dude: english and german |
| 10:22 the-dude | ah ok thanks :) |
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| 11:52 cmot_ | Yodel! |
| 12:01 cmot_ | Can I use fai with the 2.6.34 kernel from experimental? |
| 12:02 mikap | cmot_: what's the problem you'd like to address? does it have to be 2.6.34? (cause there are images for 2.6.33) |
| 12:02 Mrfai | fai works with the 2.633 grml kernel. So I guess 2.6.34 should also work. |
| 12:02 cmot_ | currently, my boot fails because "mount aufs on /root fails with option ...." |
| 12:02 cmot_ | there's no aufs.ko in experimental 2.6.34 |
| 12:02 Mrfai | so use the 2.6.33 grml kernel from the FAI repository |
| 12:03 cmot_ | I need 2.6.34 (it contains a workaround for a intel GPU bug) |
| 12:03 cmot_ | :-( |
| 12:03 mikap | i'd suggest that as well, maybe i've some time to provide a new kernel version when sitting at the fai developer meeting |
| 12:03 mikap | cmot_: ah, the one affecting the usb ports as well? |
| 12:03 mikap | D945GCLF2 or something like that? |
| 12:04 cmot_ | mikap, no, it's a X lock up. According to the X developers it's a hardware bug in certain i845 or whatever GPUs and needs a workaround in the kernel portion of the graphics driver |
| 12:04 cmot_ | Unfortunately, I've got 100 PC with exactly this graphics chip :-( :-( :-( |
| 12:05 mikap | ouch |
| 12:06 cmot_ | back on topic ... is there a possible way? Newer live-initramfs ? |
| 12:06 cmot_ | Debian #573189 says aufs will certainly not be supported anymore. So it seems we should use unionfs |
| 12:06 cmot_ | can this be done with current fai? |
| 12:06 Mrfai | cmot_: you can use 2.6.33 during installation, and the install a 2.6.34 kernel onto the new system. |
| 12:06 mikap | http://git.grml.org/?p=grml-kernel.git;a=tree;f=2.6.33;h=ecd59646e99bb6ecb5d04987fc63d58e9248029d;hb=HEAD -> aufs patch for 2.6.33, *could* work for 2.6.34 as well |
| 12:07 cmot_ | Mrfai, Hmm. I guess that should work, yes. Will try |
| 12:07 cmot_ | mikap, I'll keep that as option #2 |
| 12:07 cmot_ | Don't really like working with patched kernels |
| 12:07 mikap | cmot_: ah, *just* X doesn't work? (the regression i'm talking about has more sucking results) |
| 12:07 cmot_ | mikap, yes, so I can use this. |
| 12:07 mikap | cmot_: then definitely deploy with 2.6.33-grml and just install 2.6.34, you don't need aufs then at all for 2.6.34 |
| 12:07 cmot_ | Unless fai has suddenly started using X internally ;-) |
| 12:08 mikap | (or 2.6.33-grml64 if you want to deploy 64bit systems) |
| 12:08 Mrfai | no yet ;-) But maybe if we use a progress bar by default |
| 12:10 cmot_ | Mrfai, ok, even that I could live with. The X lock up only occurs when KDE starts to use some acceleration stuff. (But disabling compositing doesn't help, unfortunately, else I'd just do this.) |
| 12:13 mikap | .oO(enterprise version is then the version without X ;)) |
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| 12:23 cmot_ | mikap, I thought enterprise version is the version implemented in Java that uses a JBoss server |
| 12:23 mikap | cmot_: this is the security-edition |
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| Action: cmot_ wonders what you'd sell as the government version |
| 12:24 cmot_ | Probably reimplementation in Ada |
| 12:25 cmot_ | something completely different: last make-fai-nfsroot didn't generate an initrd. |
| 12:25 cmot_ | Will check, perhaps just a problem with 2.6.34 from experimental |
| 12:26 Mrfai | chroot into the nfsroot and generate it by hand (calling update-initramfs IIRC) |
| 12:26 cmot_ | yes, I did that. But I wondered |
| 12:31 mikap | cmot_: initramfs-tools <-> make-kpkg have some issues with regards to generating initrds (sadly) |
| 12:31 mikap | known issue, i've it on my radar (having my initramfs-tools maintainer and grml-kernel hat on) |
| 12:31 cmot_ | oh well, I just need to remember manually generating the initrd. No big deal |
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| 13:32 aptituz | hi |
| Action: aptituz wonders if the line in the example configurations in scripts/FAIBASE/30-interface "fcopy -iM /etc/network/interfaces /etc/networks" should read "fcopy -iM /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network" (e.g. without the s at the end) |
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| 13:34 mikap | aptituz: probably, yeah :) |
| 13:34 aptituz | does anybody have a svn checkout around to see if this is already fixed? lenny version here. |
| 13:35 aptituz | (apart from this it seems the second parameter is useless anyway) |
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| 13:38 mikap | aptituz: not fixed yet, i'll patch it with proper credits |
| 13:39 mikap | aptituz: ah wait, that should be /etc/networks and not as a target directory |
| 13:39 mikap | the /etc/networks is a valid file :) |
| 13:43 aptituz | uh, well, but its copying /etc/network/interfaces to that location which is most probably wrong |
| 13:43 aptituz | apart from this: fcopy supports specifiying a target _file_ instead of a target directory? didn't know that |
| 13:44 aptituz | /etc/networks is surely a valid file, but the content of an interfaces file is not valid content for this file ;) |
| 13:45 mikap | aptituz: read man fcopy? |
| 13:46 aptituz | i did, maybe I missed that bit |
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| 21:50 FBI | fai: 3 mt committed revision 5824 to 7 fai: - Fixed uninitialized-value bug in external-journal patch |
| 21:50 FBI | fai: - Rewrote lvm-preserve patch to properly clean up existing volume groups |
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| 22:31 FBI | fai: 3 mt committed revision 5825 to 7 fai: - fixed possible dependency problem in LVM preserve |
| 22:31 FBI | fai: - added patch to avoid useless duplicate rebuild of partition table |
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