[00:13] goofy (~Freenode@95-89-145-56-dynip.superkabel.de) left irc: Quit: Gettin' nuts. [04:01] theBro (~theBro@a88-112-18-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [04:10] theBro (~theBro@a88-112-18-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #fai. [04:46] pav5088 (~Mark@ppp118-208-135-193.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:40] pav5088 (~Mark@ppp118-208-135-193.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) joined #fai. [05:59] 36 grad sind fuer samstag angekuendigt... dann den ganzen tag lang an fai arbeiten wird schwierig :) [06:06] moin [07:25] siggg (~jean@tra78-3-82-244-85-196.fbx.proxad.net) joined #fai. [07:30] ErKa (keryell@dhcp-167.i.wlan.bme.hu) joined #fai. [08:15] Mrfai (~lange@suenner.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [08:18] Mrfai: ich hoffe der seminarraum ist klimatisiert :) [08:18] Ich werd ein Luefter einpackaen. Ansonsten gibt es auch draussen WLAN [08:19] wer braucht schon wlan... schatten ist wichtiger :) [08:19] Klimatisiert ister auf jeden Fall nicht [08:24] ok, ich werde dünne klamotten einpacken [08:24] goofy (~Freenode@95-89-145-56-dynip.superkabel.de) joined #fai. [08:24] brauche ich wohl auch für die bahnfahrt. [08:29] ich wuerde sehr duenne klamotten einpackane. Und die Badehose nicht vergessen. [08:31] ja, die habe ich dabei... [08:31] es soll ja so richtig warm^Wheiss werden dieses Wochenende. [08:32] 36 grad am samstag laut vorhersage heut morgen [08:32] ahhhhh! [09:03] ErKa (keryell@dhcp-167.i.wlan.bme.hu) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [09:05] ErKa (keryell@dhcp-167.i.wlan.bme.hu) joined #fai. [09:24] Mrfai: have you seen the thread "[DRAFT] Policy for Linux kernel, initramfs, boot loader update process" on d-d? i think we should just drop files/etc/kernel-img.conf from simple-examples [09:36] I have seen the thread, but didn't follow the details. I think Mika will know more about this. [09:37] Anyone how likes to join the FAI workshop, but can't come to Essen? Feel free to join the workshop on IRC here. [09:38] yay [09:38] Mrfai: are you aware of a cheap and reliable airport taxi service, like minicar (not taxi) from the ryanairairport? [09:38] Mrfai: i am trying to find one for mattias [09:39] Mrfai: btw: i will be in essen hbf at 15:00 [09:44] nice :) [09:44] what will be the main language at the workshop? [09:47] verwilst (~verwilst@router.begen1.office.netnoc.eu) joined #fai. [09:55] the-dude: shell and perl :-) [09:55] stockholm: No, I don't know a taxi service there [09:59] Mrfai: *g* and German I assume? [10:17] the-dude: my college will be there, too. he doesnt speak german [10:21] the-dude: english and german [10:22] ah ok thanks :) [10:37] serverhorror_ (~martin@80-121-54-71.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #fai. 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[12:02] there's no aufs.ko in experimental 2.6.34 [12:02] so use the 2.6.33 grml kernel from the FAI repository [12:03] I need 2.6.34 (it contains a workaround for a intel GPU bug) [12:03] :-( [12:03] i'd suggest that as well, maybe i've some time to provide a new kernel version when sitting at the fai developer meeting [12:03] cmot_: ah, the one affecting the usb ports as well? [12:03] D945GCLF2 or something like that? [12:04] mikap, no, it's a X lock up. According to the X developers it's a hardware bug in certain i845 or whatever GPUs and needs a workaround in the kernel portion of the graphics driver [12:04] Unfortunately, I've got 100 PC with exactly this graphics chip :-( :-( :-( [12:05] ouch [12:06] back on topic ... is there a possible way? Newer live-initramfs ? [12:06] Debian #573189 says aufs will certainly not be supported anymore. So it seems we should use unionfs [12:06] can this be done with current fai? [12:06] cmot_: you can use 2.6.33 during installation, and the install a 2.6.34 kernel onto the new system. [12:06] http://git.grml.org/?p=grml-kernel.git;a=tree;f=2.6.33;h=ecd59646e99bb6ecb5d04987fc63d58e9248029d;hb=HEAD -> aufs patch for 2.6.33, *could* work for 2.6.34 as well [12:07] Mrfai, Hmm. I guess that should work, yes. Will try [12:07] mikap, I'll keep that as option #2 [12:07] Don't really like working with patched kernels [12:07] cmot_: ah, *just* X doesn't work? (the regression i'm talking about has more sucking results) [12:07] mikap, yes, so I can use this. [12:07] cmot_: then definitely deploy with 2.6.33-grml and just install 2.6.34, you don't need aufs then at all for 2.6.34 [12:07] Unless fai has suddenly started using X internally ;-) [12:08] (or 2.6.33-grml64 if you want to deploy 64bit systems) [12:08] no yet ;-) But maybe if we use a progress bar by default [12:10] Mrfai, ok, even that I could live with. The X lock up only occurs when KDE starts to use some acceleration stuff. (But disabling compositing doesn't help, unfortunately, else I'd just do this.) [12:13] .oO(enterprise version is then the version without X ;)) [12:15] ErKa (keryell@dhcp-167.i.wlan.bme.hu) joined #fai. [12:23] mikap, I thought enterprise version is the version implemented in Java that uses a JBoss server [12:23] cmot_: this is the security-edition [12:24] ErKa (keryell@dhcp-167.i.wlan.bme.hu) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [12:24] Action: cmot_ wonders what you'd sell as the government version [12:24] Probably reimplementation in Ada [12:25] something completely different: last make-fai-nfsroot didn't generate an initrd. [12:25] Will check, perhaps just a problem with 2.6.34 from experimental [12:26] chroot into the nfsroot and generate it by hand (calling update-initramfs IIRC) [12:26] yes, I did that. But I wondered [12:31] cmot_: initramfs-tools <-> make-kpkg have some issues with regards to generating initrds (sadly) [12:31] known issue, i've it on my radar (having my initramfs-tools maintainer and grml-kernel hat on) [12:31] oh well, I just need to remember manually generating the initrd. No big deal [12:37] ErKa (keryell@dhcp-167.i.wlan.bme.hu) joined #fai. [12:40] torge (~torge@blfd-4db180fb.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #fai. [12:40] torge (torge@blfd-4db180fb.pool.mediaWays.net) left #fai. [12:53] Mrfai (~lange@suenner.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:31] aptituz (~schoenfel@dslb-088-078-117-198.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #fai. [13:32] hi [13:33] Action: aptituz wonders if the line in the example configurations in scripts/FAIBASE/30-interface "fcopy -iM /etc/network/interfaces /etc/networks" should read "fcopy -iM /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network" (e.g. without the s at the end) [13:33] allee-k (~allee-k@alleehol.mpe.mpg.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:34] aptituz: probably, yeah :) [13:34] does anybody have a svn checkout around to see if this is already fixed? lenny version here. [13:35] (apart from this it seems the second parameter is useless anyway) [13:36] allee-k (~allee-k@alleehol.mpe.mpg.de) joined #fai. [13:38] aptituz: not fixed yet, i'll patch it with proper credits [13:39] aptituz: ah wait, that should be /etc/networks and not as a target directory [13:39] the /etc/networks is a valid file :) [13:43] uh, well, but its copying /etc/network/interfaces to that location which is most probably wrong [13:43] apart from this: fcopy supports specifiying a target _file_ instead of a target directory? didn't know that [13:44] /etc/networks is surely a valid file, but the content of an interfaces file is not valid content for this file ;) [13:45] aptituz: read man fcopy? [13:46] i did, maybe I missed that bit [14:08] torge (~torge@blfd-4db180fb.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #fai. [14:17] cmot_ (~avbidder@cust.static.84-253-12-25.cybernet.ch) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [14:36] torge (~torge@blfd-4db180fb.pool.mediaWays.net) got netsplit. [14:36] partner (~joonas@ajaton.net) got netsplit. [14:36] stockholm (~andreas@marta.schuldei.org) got netsplit. 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