[04:19] how does fai compare to, say, puppet for the configuration part? i can see how fai can obselete puppet if there is a way to softupdate automatically. how safe is it to softupdate with cron? [04:22] is it safe to use both fai and puppet at the same time? [04:32] any opinions/experiences on using FAI vs puppet for centralized configuration management on a debian network? [04:35] tuv: i have no experience with puppet. but for fai, i would say it's good enough to have a simple script which logs into all your machines and runs softupdate... you can watch it scroll by while taking a sip of $beverage, and also you can make sure machines are updated in a certain order if there are dependencies [05:04] simNIX (~simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) left irc: Quit: Ik ga weg [06:27] do i need fai-client if i'm not doing softupdate? [06:47] ErKa (~keryell@APuteaux-154-1-23-142.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #fai. [06:54] siggg (~jean@tra78-5-88-172-128-32.fbx.proxad.net) joined #fai. 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[14:31] allee-k_ (~allee-k@alleehol.mpe.mpg.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [14:45] siggg (~jean@AVelizy-151-1-42-212.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [14:57] siggg (~jean@tra78-3-82-244-85-196.fbx.proxad.net) joined #fai. [15:19] siggg (~jean@tra78-3-82-244-85-196.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [15:25] verwilst (~verwilst@router.begen1.office.netnoc.eu) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [15:32] siggg (~jean@AVelizy-151-1-42-212.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #fai. [15:41] tklassen (~tklassen@p4FE298F9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #fai. [15:42] Hi [15:42] anybody listening? [15:44] tklassen: uhhuh [15:44] Im trying to setup fai with PXE boot, but it won't work. DHCP seems to work and my client gets an address. But no luck with tftp. It fails with PXE E-32 timeout. [15:45] TFTP open timeout [15:45] did you set next-server correctly in dhcp? [15:46] wait [15:46] subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { [15:46] # range 192.168.1.245 192.168.1.250; [15:46] option routers 192.168.1.24; [15:46] option domain-name "EDU2"; [15:46] option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.24; [15:46] option time-servers EDU; [15:47] option ntp-servers EDU; [15:47] server-name EDU; [15:47] next-server EDU; [15:47] filename "fai/pxelinux.0"; [15:47] } [15:48] Im doing this with squeeze not lenny, but I don't think that this makes abig difference [15:49] well, now you've filled this channel with 11 lines, but you still haven't answered my question [15:49] ;) [15:49] Yes next-server should be correct [15:50] It's called EDU in DHCP, hosts and so on [15:51] next step: use tcpdump. do the tftp requests arrive at your server? [15:51] I have done this before... just wait a second [15:54] root@EDU:/srv/tftp/fai# tcpdump port 69 [15:54] tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode [15:54] listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes [15:54] 17:52:49.736481 IP demohost.2070 > EDU.EDU2.tftp: 31 RRQ "fai/pxelinux.0" octet tsize 0 [15:54] 17:52:51.762120 IP demohost.2071 > EDU.EDU2.tftp: 31 RRQ "fai/pxelinux.0" octet tsize 0 [15:54] 17:52:55.771624 IP demohost.2072 > EDU.EDU2.tftp: 31 RRQ "fai/pxelinux.0" octet tsize 0 [15:54] 17:53:01.758249 IP demohost.2073 > EDU.EDU2.tftp: 31 RRQ "fai/pxelinux.0" octet tsize 0 [15:54] 17:53:09.724004 IP demohost.2074 > EDU.EDU2.tftp: 31 RRQ "fai/pxelinux.0" octet tsize 0 [15:54] 17:53:19.668933 IP demohost.2075 > EDU.EDU2.tftp: 36 RRQ "fai/pxelinux.0" octet blksize 1456 [15:55] so your server is getting requests but not answering them [15:55] therefore, you must fix your tftp server [15:55] how? [15:55] It'sthe standard Debian version [15:56] even the standard debian version needs to be configured correctly [15:56] right... [15:56] root 1946 0.0 0.0 2200 276 ? S should be correct right? [15:58] looks ok. /srv/tftp/fai/pxelinux.0 exists? [15:58] you can also start tftpd in foreground debug mode [15:59] yes drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 6. Mai 14:53 pxelinux.cfg [15:59] with in.tfp -lvv -s /srv/tftp ?? [15:59] ErKa (~keryell@APuteaux-154-1-23-142.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [16:04] pxelinux.0 is not the same thing as pxelinux.cfg, is it? [16:04] oh sorry [16:04] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16798 6. Mai 16:53 pxelinux.0 [16:04] drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 6. Mai 14:53 pxelinux.cfg [16:05] Thats the Content of one file I have generated with fai-chboot -IFv demohost [16:05] # generated by fai-chboot for host demohost with IP 80.156.86.78 [16:05] default fai-generated [16:05] label fai-generated [16:05] kernel vmlinuz-2.6.32-3-486 [16:05] append initrd=initrd.img-2.6.32-3-486 ip=dhcp root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=/srv/fai/nfsroot boot=live FAI_FLAGS=verbose,sshd,createvt FAI_ACTION=install [16:06] look, you don't need to flood the channel with all these things, especially if they are irrelevant [16:06] sorry [16:07] you need to get your tftpd and your pxe client to talk to one another. [16:07] so as i said you can try debug mode [16:08] so I have to man tftpd [16:14] Sorry I have to go now [16:14] I will try what I can to get ir unning [16:14] bye [16:15] tklassen (~tklassen@p4FE298F9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [16:21] siggg (~jean@AVelizy-151-1-42-212.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:23] <\sh> Mrfai, ping do you have some time to watch a video? [16:24] <\sh> anyways...if anyone is interested in watching the first (working) mockups of fai-manager just follow this link: http://www.ubuntu-server.eu/faimanager-faiconfig-defaultclasses-3.ogv :) [16:28] when will it be done? ;) [16:28] \sh: is the source available? :) [16:29] <\sh> mikap, as I said to MrFai, hopefully before the FAI workshop [16:29] \sh: cool [16:29] looks promising to me [16:30] allee-k__ (~allee-k@p5B0DF8B1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:31] <\sh> there is more to it, than the frontend...there is a django backend, which speaks xmlrpc and jsonrpc, the frontend application speaks only json-rpc with the backend...FAI config sciprts are doing some more "blackmagic" things with the xmlrpc backend (via python)...the frontend depends on qooxdoo (developed by 1&1) an javascript framework comparable to Qt [16:31] ok cool [16:31] <\sh> automatic inventarisation, tftp server which checks the backend if a server needs to be installed with the next reboot etc. [17:59] Mrfai (~lange@suenner.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:09] siggg (~jean@tra78-5-88-172-128-32.fbx.proxad.net) joined #fai. 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