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| 13:11 jlamsens | Hello. I successfully installed my first FAI server and could deploy the DEMO host example. My question is now: I want to deploy Ubuntu 8.04 and CentOS 5.X hosts, but the documentation |
| 13:11 jlamsens | only mentions: "You can install all sorts of Linux distributions from a single Debian nfsroot. Therefore you have to create a base.tgz of the distribution you like to install and place it info the basefiles directory. Then name it UBUNTU910.tar.gz for example." |
| 13:12 jlamsens | Is there someone who has successfully deployed Ubuntu or Centos or could guide me to more information on how to do that ? |
| 13:13 _joschi | jlamsens: http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/FAI_multi-distribution |
| 13:13 _joschi | jlamsens: I'm using FAI with Ubuntu currently. It actually works the same way Debian does |
| 13:15 jlamsens | nice link; did not see that one yet, thanks ! |
| 13:16 jlamsens | _joschi: do you deploy Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, or already 10.04 LTS ? Any experience with 10.04 ? |
| 13:19 _joschi | currently 9.10 |
| 13:19 _joschi | but I want to deploy 10.04 when it's a little more stable (e.g. not right the first week after its release ;) |
| 13:24 jlamsens | Tx; 2 last questions: |
| 13:24 jlamsens | 1. did you use the instructions in the link you provided yourself (build a minimal base image via make-fai-base-tgz) ? |
| 13:24 jlamsens | 2. no trouble with the GRUB stuff ? |
| 13:25 jlamsens | Well: 3 questions :-) |
| 13:25 jlamsens | 3. Do you need to create a seperate NFS root for each distro, or do I see that wrong ? |
| 13:28 _joschi | 1. I'm using the Ubuntu FAI packages (https://launchpad.net/fai/) |
| 13:28 _joschi | 2. nope |
| 13:29 _joschi | 3. yes, you'll need seperate NFS root directories |
| 13:33 Mrfai | no, you do not need seperate NFS roots. |
| 13:33 jlamsens | Mrfai: ok, now I'm confused :-) |
| 13:34 Mrfai | You will always use the same Debian NFS root, but install different distributions to the hard disk |
| 13:35 jlamsens | Am I exagerating, if I think instructions on setting up FAI to deploy Ubuntu/CentOS are not very clear ? |
| 13:37 Nic0 | I don't think so ;-) |
| 13:40 Nic0 | You first need to build a minimal Ubuntu system with deboostrap, using an Ubuntu package |
| 13:40 Nic0 | (Debian's deboostrap does not work for Ubuntu) |
| 13:41 Nic0 | Then make an archive with it, say UBUNTU.tar.gz, that goes to <configdir>/basefiles |
| 13:42 jlamsens | Nic0: wait, lets begin from scratch: I'm using Debian Lenny for fai installserver, as the packages in ubuntu are way too outdated. I added "deb http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/download lenny koeln" to |
| 13:42 jlamsens | my sources.list and installed fai-quickstart. |
| 13:42 jlamsens | What do I do now ? |
| 13:43 jlamsens | I build a minimal ubuntu system how ? |
| 13:43 Nic0 | The easy way is to have an Ubuntu host to run deboostrap on |
| 13:44 Nic0 | Otherwise you just get the Ubuntu deboostrap .deb and install it somewhere on a Debian host |
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| 13:45 jlamsens | OK, let's say I use the Ubuntu debootstrap .deb: where do I install it ? |
| 13:46 Nic0 | Where you want. Only the archive you build with it must go in FAI config |
| 13:47 jlamsens | So I want to deploy Ubuntu 8.04. I take a clean Ubuntu 8.04 server, install package "debootstrap", and make "a minimal Ubuntu 8.04" system. Will that result in one 1 file ? I'm sorry: I have no experience with that... |
| 13:50 jlamsens | Ok, I read the whole thing and think I'm starting to get it now... |
| 13:51 jlamsens | The link provided above, tells me to install it like MY-DISTRIBUTION-NAME.tar.gz in the configspace/basefiles, but I don't have a directory basefiles under /srv/fai/config/. Do I just create that dir ? |
| 13:52 Mrfai | yep |
| 13:52 Mrfai | I would choose a name like LUCID.tar.gz. |
| 13:53 Mrfai | This will then be used as a FAI class name |
| 13:54 jlamsens | ok, tx. I'll try all these steps first. If I manage to get it working, I'm planning to create a complete install manual as an example and put it somewhere on the mailinglist. Thanks guys. |
| 13:54 Mrfai | or put it into the wiki |
| 13:55 jlamsens | ok |
| 13:57 Nic0 | You'll also need a hook prepareapt.LUCID to replace the standard task prepareapt |
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| 13:58 Nic0 | Otherwise the task will copy the Debian sources.list from the nfsroot into your installation |
| 14:00 jlamsens | Nic0: oops, any idea how to create that hook prepareapt.MY-DISTRIBUTION-NAME ? I read it "replace sthe stuff specific for the distribtuion of the fai server with something suitable to get your specific distribution ready to install packages" |
| 14:01 jlamsens | anyone has such a "hook" example for 8.04 ? |
| 14:01 Nic0 | Copy the function task_prepareapt from /usr/lib/fai/subroutines |
| 14:02 Nic0 | And remove at least the 'cp -r $FAI_ETC_DIR/apt/*' line |
| 14:03 Nic0 | + add the following line at the end to skip the task: |
| 14:03 Nic0 | skiptask prepareapt |
| 14:07 jlamsens | so remove line 19 and add "skiptask prepareapt" after line 27 at http://pastebin.com/X1DqibBt ? |
| 14:10 Nic0 | Yep, it should be enough to start with |
| 14:11 Nic0 | You can also remove line 18 |
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| 14:13 jlamsens | ok, it now looks like this: http://pastebin.com/EDj0pvgR |
| 14:14 jlamsens | wait, correction... |
| 14:15 jlamsens | http://pastebin.com/M0NqZjC7 |
| 14:16 jlamsens | I will try debootstrapping Ubuntu first, and come back when I have troubles... :p Bye and thanks. |
| 14:16 Nic0 | You also need to add #! /bin/bash and remove the function stuff to make it a script ;-) |
| 14:16 jlamsens | k ;-) |
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| 15:09 \sh | oh mann... |
| 15:09 \sh | why oh why we do have several people working in companies without any clue |
| 15:11 oz_ | ? :-D |
| 15:15 \sh | this morning our "Chief Software Architect" came to me and told me: "We are vulnerable of SSL/TLS Re-Negotiation" (CVE-2009-3555) |
| 15:15 \sh | and I told him "no, we aren't" |
| 15:16 oz_ | and? |
| 15:16 \sh | he told me "yes, we are, look here http://www.skriptkiddiesforumforfunandforidiots.6x.to, this page tells me we are vulnerable" |
| 15:17 oz_ | hey, he knew how to use the internetz, whohee... |
| 15:17 \sh | and now I'm fighting since 2 hours with him, to explain the real problem and why we are save with the patch from the openssl crowed...and that his page is wrong and dangerous |
| 15:18 oz_ | \sh: :-( |
| 15:18 \sh | but the funny part is, that my mail, with deep knowledge of ssl and the real problem of this problem, was acked with "I don't understand your mail...what do you mean?" |
| 15:19 oz_ | I guess you can't just do it like Theo de Reedt? |
| 15:19 \sh | what? going into his office and kill this guy? no ... |
| 15:19 oz_ | Theo just kills verbally |
| 15:19 oz_ | :-D |
| 15:21 oz_ | http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Theo_de_Raadt I just lkove it |
| 15:23 \sh | hehe...yes :) now I know |
| 15:25 oz_ | Reedt..Raadt. *hmpf |
| 15:25 oz_ | * |
| 15:25 oz_ | I just hate my keyboard here. |
| 15:28 oz_ | \sh: what was the outcome? |
| 15:34 \sh | oz_, I'm right, he's wrong, he earns more, I'm an asshole, |
| 15:37 \sh | sometimes it can be so easy ;) |
| 15:38 oz_ | yea, just press the button of your Nike Missile... ;) |
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| 17:11 mgoetze | Nic0: you do NOT need a special ubuntu debootstrap to debootstrap an ubuntu system. a normal debian debootstrap works just fine. |
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| 22:36 tuvwx | are there any known issues in fai with squeeze/testing? running fai-setup, i'm getting an error saying that initrd was not created |
| 22:38 tuvwx | i set fai to grab packages/debootstrap from testing rahter than the default lenny |
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| 22:47 tuvwx | this is the exact message: ERROR: No initrd installed |
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