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08:57 torkel\sh: what is the status of your updates of FAI for lucid? You haven't pushed anything to the PPA yet?
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09:06 \shtorkel, nope...didn't have the time for it yet (work issues)...but I thought allee wasworking on something for FAI+lucid and ppa...I'll ask him
09:09 mikapmt: you're sitting in vienna? nice :)
09:10 alleetorkel: no pkgs yet but a branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~allee/fai/fai.lucid-merge+quilt-mess   Description contains more details.   Currently faireboot does not work and recent server hardware triggers a kernel panic
09:11 \shallee, "recent server hardware"?
09:11 alleetorkel, \sh:  Maybe I find some more time for test (after I merged my config changes)
09:11 allee\sh: Dell R410, IBM blades HS21(?) XM
09:12 allee\sh, torkel:  angeschafft < 1 year
09:12 \shallee, oh wow...I just got hands on HP hardware, and that works like a charm (until we get hands on the new server and blade production line)
09:13 \shallee, Bl7000c + bl465cG5
09:14 allee\sh: someone mentioned here that debian kernel + FAI kernel never had problems with IBM blades for him
09:14 \shallee, well I think you won't have problems with IBM HS20 blades...(old stuff ;))
09:14 torkelallee: HS21 is old :-)
09:15 mikapallee: with according initramfs-tools/live-initramfs even?
Action: mikap deploying several IBM blades with grml and debian kernel and having no problems
09:15 alleemikap:  pardon?  I use whatever is in ubuntu lucid repo
09:15 mikapyou need the according bnx-firmware as well
09:15 torkelwe have been running hardy on them, though most of our HS21 blades are running CentOS due to management decision
09:16 mikapallee: which kernel version does lucid use? according firmware-bnx2[x] is part of it?
09:16 alleemikap: AFAIR I've once installed hardy (with hardy FAI server) on the HS21 without problems too
09:16 alleemikap: 2.6.32
09:17 mikapallee: hm
09:18 alleemikap: /lib/firmware/2.6.32-20-server/bnx2x-e1-5.0.21.0.fw
09:18 torkelwe are currently setting up lucid with the karmic packages from the PPA and it mostly seems to work (at least good enough)
09:19 mikaphm ok
09:20 alleetorkel: Maybe I give this setup a try too.  Maybe I've made a merge error.  I've (re)started from plain debian source as \sh suggested
09:21 \shmikap, ubuntu delivers the firmware already...debian doesn't for debian you need the unfree packages
09:22 \shok /me has a meeting now...bbl
09:24 mikap\sh: ok
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09:58 alleetorkel: eh, karmic fai server with 3.3.3ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1 with 2.6.31-20-server in NFSroot  -> IBM blade XS21 XM panic too  (again after  sda unknown partition table,  in forget _original_parent() call tree)
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10:14 alleeso: IBM X21 likes hardy FAI NFSroot, panic with karmic and lucid
10:54 \shallee,log or  screenshot of the panic?
Action: allee restart blade
11:00 allee\sh: http://imagebin.ca/view/fUPHp0.html    It's my first time experience with IBM hardwarel, so I've not figured out how to do blade boot via serial console
11:03 \shallee, http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg2084702.html
11:05 allee\sh mhmm, but for me your karmic ppa deb with karmic, panic too :(
11:06 \shallee, http://forums.grsecurity.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2226 ;)
11:06 \shallee, looks like that it's not an FAI problem but a kernel problem in general on special hardware
11:06 alleeat least with lucid, I can even boot from the server CDROM, 'cause the CDROM/media tray is not found by the kernel
11:07 allee\sh: yeah, optiplex desktop boot fine, old sun server too.    but I wish the blades would not be special :)
11:07 alleethx for the links
11:07 \shallee I wonder how ubuntu can disable SSP during boot time
11:07 allee\sh: SSP?
11:08 \shstack protection
11:12 \sh"This option turns on the -fstack-protector GCC feature. This feature puts, at the beginning of critical functions, a canary value on the stack just before the return address, and validates the value just before actually returning. Stack based buffer overflows (that need to overwrite this return address) now also overwrite the canary, which gets detected and the attack is then neutralized via a kernel panic."
11:12 \shallee, can you try to recompile the ubuntu kernel without this config settings and try then to boot?
11:13 allee\sh: probably not today, but tomorrow I should find the time
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11:13 \shallee, or another try would be to check your bios settings, you can somehow enable and disable this feature also via bios
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11:30 allee\sh Pitty, no luck in the bios
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11:35 \shallee-k, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/509102 <- problem with your cdrom drive ;)
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12:09 allee-k\sh  what a mess.  Karmic server CD worked for me with the x3650.  Nevertheless worth a try when I give up with FAI and HS21
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