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| 08:22 hachi | hello.... I just finished reading over the debian something something manual about preseeding |
| 08:23 hachi | going to try and verse myself on FAI now and try it out, but I'm curious if FAI uses the debconf and/or preseed concepts for getting work done |
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| 08:27 sep | it can |
| 08:27 sep | fai/config/debconf/ZONENAME can contain debconf values you set |
| 08:29 hachi | how does fai automate answering questions from dpkg or during the debian installer?... you don't actually need to answer, I will probably figure this out in due time if it's not worth answering :) |
| 08:31 sep | simply: it does not. :) (it does not uses debian-installer either) |
| 08:31 hachi | oh |
| 08:33 ioo | hallo! i am really quite new to using fai and puppet but i have a working (although out-of-the-box) setup and they seem to mix well; i wanted to ask if a fai+puppet mix is quite common way to have automatically managed systems? |
| 08:33 ioo | (and i use debian, lenny adm64 at the moment) |
| 08:34 ioo | *amd64 |
| 08:35 sep | you replace fai-softconfig with puppet ? and use fai only for installation ? |
| 08:36 sep | ioo, i dont know. i only use fai |
| 08:36 ioo | mm, actually at the moment my so to say tactics was to install puppet as one of the packages and after next boot puppet takes over software configuration management |
| 08:36 sep | and only little at that |
| 08:37 sep | i just configured everything in fai. |
| 08:37 sep | using debconf values mostly. |
| 08:37 sep | and as few scrpts as possible :) |
| 08:37 ioo | one reason to introduce puppet is that we have some other systems using openbsd and suse and we expect to manage them centraly |
| 08:37 sep | but i am sure you can do it that way |
| 08:38 ioo | sep: understood, if possible there i no need to introduce extra software when just fai will do fine :) |
| 08:38 hachi | does one of the steps for fai-setup overwrite things in /var/lib/tftpboot/ ? |
| 08:38 hachi | sep: I'm glad to hear you did yours the way you did, that is my goal |
| 08:39 ioo | hachi: my observation is that by default fai uses as tftpboot /srv/tftp/fai |
| 08:39 hachi | isn't /srv a djbism? |
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| 08:40 sep | hachi, my fai tftp lives in /srv/tftp/fai |
| 08:40 hachi | hmm |
| 08:40 sep | so it makes it's own subdir even if you want to rather use /var/lib/tftpboot, (or just symlink or whatever) |
| 08:41 sep | fai-chboot can overwrite things tho. especialy things like macaddress |
| 08:41 ioo | hachi: seems to be debian standard place, http://wiki.debian.org/FilesystemHierarchyStandard |
| 08:41 hachi | I just like my default config, which isn't fai related :) |
| 08:41 hachi | ioo: okie... I'll read that |
| 08:42 hachi | oh bleh, I ran out of disk space |
| 08:43 hachi | because / isn't big enough |
| 08:45 hachi | oh! FAI builds a chroot, is the chroot just copied to the installed systems? |
| 08:45 hachi | hmm, that wouldn't make much sense I guess... you couldn't run different platform fai |
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| 08:51 sep | the machine beeing installed need to boot something :) |
| 08:51 sep | hachi, i put /srv on a separate lv |
| 08:52 hachi | with debian installer I can just get the platform's kernel and initrd and that's enough |
| 08:52 sep | you also have a lot of udebs :) |
| 08:52 hachi | I'm trying to see how I can install amd64 from an i386 fai server |
| 08:55 hachi | sep: regardless, the udebs don't need to be installed on a server before I can serve them up |
| 08:57 sep | hachi, debian netinstaller boot kernel+initrd, and then installes udebs from media/net to build a installation enviorment. fai have the installation enviorment as a chroot on the fai servers. saves on download and isntall time. |
| 08:58 hachi | I don't think that's true always |
| 08:59 hachi | I would like to use debian testing and unstable, and those change often enough that rebuilding the FAI chroot will take more bandwidth and time than is useful for the number of machines |
| 09:00 sep | you do not nessecarily have to rebuild the chroot to install a new version debian |
| 09:06 ioo | but please tell me how fai is meant to be used as 'Can be used as a rescue system.', choosing FAI_ACTION=sysinfo? |
| 09:06 ioo | i just would like to boot fai client up and to log into it over ssh |
| 09:07 ioo | *boot it up using root - over - nfs |
| 09:08 ioo | (looked up man fai and sysinfo seems most fit for that) |
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| 14:19 FBI | fai: 3 lange committed revision 5726 to 7 fai: mkramdisk: do nothing if the variable FAI_NORAMDISK is set to 1 |
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