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| 10:05 dot|frier | Hi looking for help with FAI! :) |
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| 10:08 dot|frier | Wondering if it will be useful since im building a beowulf cluser for a renderfarm at my uni |
| 10:12 mgoetze | dot|frier: of course it will be useful :) |
| 10:12 dot|frier | awesome, sorry im a total new with linux |
| 10:13 dot|frier | So I guess i just download this 600+ meg FAI and it will install on my master server? |
| 10:13 mgoetze | 600+ meg?!? |
| 10:13 dot|frier | exactly um |
| 10:13 mgoetze | i'm not sure what you're looking at, there |
| 10:14 dot|frier | i downloaded fai-cd-3.2.16.sio |
| 10:14 dot|frier | iso* |
| 10:14 mgoetze | you have a lot to learn about linux |
| 10:15 mgoetze | we don't generally download software from random places on the internet, especially not if it's available via apt |
| 10:15 mgoetze | especially not random versions of software with random configurations... |
| 10:16 dot|frier | Ok, if i have an FAI install CD do i have to physically insert the CD into all my node servers |
| 10:16 mgoetze | if you are installing a beowulf cluster you don't want to use fai-cd |
| 10:16 dot|frier | Is there a good tutorial on this |
| 10:16 dot|frier | ok |
| 10:18 Mrfai | dot|frier: in the fai guide, there's a chapter about beowulf installation. Read this chapter. And learn linux and Debian. It's not just inserting a CD. It's much more than this |
| 10:20 dot|frier | ok thanks found the chapter |
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| 10:21 Guest321 | mgoetze: now it's working thx for the hint |
| 10:25 mgoetze | Guest321: gerne :) |
| 10:42 dot|frier | this tutorial seems well written, but is for debian 2.x.. hope its ok for debian 5.0 :/ |
| 10:43 Guest321 | thing change too fast sometimes, sometimes not. |
| 10:43 mgoetze | i guess it's not generally expected that people without linux experience try to install a beowulf cluster |
| 10:50 Guest321 | mgoetze: but it's reality. |
| 10:50 Guest321 | I cannot stop wondering. |
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| 13:47 mgoetze | hm in /var/log/live.log on my attempt to run an ubuntu nfsroot generated on a lenny server, it says: /init: /init: 14: wc: not found |
| 13:48 mgoetze | does anyone have an idea what that means? |
| 13:49 oz_ | coreutils missing in the nfsroot? |
| 13:50 mgoetze | i don't think the full nfsroot is active at that point? maybe an initrd problem? |
| 13:52 oz_ | no busybox in the initrd? |
| Action: mgoetze tries to remember the magic cpio incantation |
| 13:53 mgoetze | there's a busybox, but no wc |
| 13:54 mgoetze | funny, line 14 of /init is a comment... |
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| 13:58 Mrfai | mgoetze: I'm sure we already had this stupid wc problem with ubuntu. |
| 13:58 Mrfai | IIRc ubuntu did not include wc into busybox, but live-initramfs (or something else) does need it |
| 14:00 mgoetze | wc: applet not found |
| 14:01 mgoetze | whatever busybox is trying to tell me :) |
| 14:10 mgoetze | yes, i see some search results on the mailing list, guess i will trawl through those |
| 14:12 mgoetze | gnarf i really hate things which require manual modification of the initrd, it's so dirty |
| 14:21 Mrfai | IIRR newer versions of ubuntu busybox are fixed and include wc |
| 14:22 mgoetze | unfortunately, i have to install ubuntu 8.04 :( |
| 14:23 mgoetze | i really wonder if anyone will ever get a newer fai version working cleanly for a future ubuntu release |
| 14:26 Mrfai | This will not happen unless some cares about FAI support in Ubuntu. And someone has to work on it. |
| 14:26 Mrfai | Currently noone from the Ubuntu FAI team is working on this :-( |
| 14:27 Mrfai | So, I someone like to help (and do some work), please joint this team: https://launchpad.net/~fai |
| 14:27 Mrfai | But do not join without really working on it |
| 14:28 mgoetze | i don't like ubuntu, i just have to install it :( |
| Action: oz_ only could do it if someone would pay |
| 14:45 oz_ | aber eigenltich beweg ich mich grad wieder von ubuntu weg. |
| 14:45 oz_ | bis auf eine #nette# desktop config finde ich nichts besser als bei debian. |
| 14:46 oz_ | schlecht find ich den releasecyle von denen |
| 14:46 oz_ | und wenn ich richtig gehört habe, tut marc alles das das in debian einzug hält- |
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| 14:55 mgoetze | oz_: ja aber dagegen wird sich ja zum glueck gewehrt |
| 14:55 oz_ | mgoetze: wie ist der aktuelle stand? |
| 14:56 mgoetze | nach heftiger diskussion hat das releaseteam den dezember-freeze zurueckgezogen und angekuendigt mit diversen teams zu reden bevor sie ein neues zieldatum bekannt geben |
| Action: oz_ bevorzugt "It's ready when it's ready" |
| 14:57 oz_ | planen kann man ja trotzdem. |
| 14:58 mgoetze | ja, marcs idee war ja erstmal nur zusammen zu freezen |
| 14:59 mgoetze | nach dem motto "ihr fixt die meisten unserer bugs, wir releasen, ihr koennt dann spaeter ein release machen mit den gleichen versionen die wir schon einige monate zuvor herausgebracht haben" |
| 15:01 oz_ | der soll sein ubuntu machen. |
| 15:01 oz_ | ich hab hier ein paar ubuntu server die ein kollege eingerichtet hat |
| 15:02 oz_ | das sich die büxen die am meisten trouble machen |
| 15:02 oz_ | soweit meine erfahrung mit "ubuntu-server" |
| 15:03 mgoetze | joa, ich bin sehr froh dass wir sowas nicht intern haben, sondern nur als kundensysteme |
| 15:04 oz_ | :-) |
| Action: oz_ rottet das fleissig aus und ersetzt das mit Debian |
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