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| 01:30 FSa | Get this good script |
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| 05:50 in_t4n | Thats SICK! |
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| 10:01 oz__ | anyone did think og a system backup and restore szenario with FAI? |
| 10:02 oz__ | s/og/of/ |
| 10:17 mgoetze | oz__: you mean having fai automatically restore backups of the data partitions or something like that? |
| 10:23 oz__ | mgoetze: no, I mean an automatic update of the config space. |
| 10:24 oz__ | Thomas always argues against it, because he say "do no install by hand!" |
| 10:24 oz__ | but I often do install new thing on servers and need to update the configspace afterwards |
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| 10:57 mgoetze | oz__: oh, well, i prefer to install via changing the config space first :) |
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| 11:41 oz__ | mgoetze: maybe I should become your and Mrfai's apprentice |
| 11:42 oz__ | I often have to add e.g. a more complex apache config into the config space |
| 11:42 oz__ | and that means a lot of stupid cut'n'waster for me right now |
| 11:42 oz__ | how can one avoid that? |
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| 11:47 mgoetze | oz__: hm, but why do you write your apache config on the server, rather directly in your configspace? |
| 11:47 oz__ | mgoetze: even fai updateclient is too slow.... |
| 11:49 mgoetze | hm, softupdate takes about 20s for me, do you consider that too much? |
| 11:49 Mrfai | oz__: why is fai softupdate too slow? |
| 11:49 Mrfai | oz__: you may want to skip task_instsoft to speed up your softupdate |
| 11:51 mgoetze | maybe that would be a good idea for a command-line parameter, i.e. fai --no-software softupdate |
| 11:55 oz__ | mgoetze: at least, for me that would be a solution... |
| 11:55 oz__ | Mrfai: thx for this hint |
| Action: oz__ has far too little time for FAI |
| 11:57 Mrfai | mgoetze: I recommend to write a new action, which does only executes the customization scripts |
| 12:05 oz__ | I wonder what I did wrong all those years... |
| 12:05 oz__ | I let this issue pop up again and a agin...and now I get it so easily. |
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| 12:34 Winkie | hey guys, odd problem |
| 12:34 Winkie | my nfsroot is running out of its 250 meg space |
| 12:34 Winkie | or at least my rootfs on the client |
| 12:43 mgoetze | my i386 nfsroot is 386mb |
| 12:43 mgoetze | maybe try a more symptomatic description of your problem? |
| 12:47 Winkie | mgoetze: previously working installations fail, the identifiable problem is that the rootfs on / is 250 meg and full |
| 12:48 Winkie | mgoetze: i'm clearly talented at breaking FAI |
| 12:48 mgoetze | so you mean the aufs in the installation system is full? |
| 12:48 Winkie | yeah seemed to be |
| 12:49 Winkie | it's probably something dumb i missed i guess, but i can't find out any info abou thow the nfs is sized |
| 12:49 mgoetze | the nfs bit of it is completely read-only |
| 12:50 Winkie | oh sorry, i should have said the 'nfsroot' or whatever the client sees as root, in reality it will be aufs i guess |
| 12:50 Mrfai | Winkie: show us your fai.log (put it on paste.debian.net) |
| 12:53 Winkie | Mrfai: willdo |
| 12:59 Winkie | Mrfai: http://paste.debian.net/44053/ |
| 13:00 mgoetze | Mounting /dev/hda1 to /target/ |
| 13:00 mgoetze | mount: unknown filesystem type 'ext3' |
| 13:00 mgoetze | well, that seems to explain your problem |
| 13:01 mgoetze | 2.6.30, eh? |
| 13:02 Winkie | mgoetze: haha i know exactly why now |
| 13:02 Winkie | mgoetze: yeah you may remember my problem |
| 13:02 Winkie | mgoetze: great catch |
| 13:02 mgoetze | oh right, the new dell hardware |
| 13:02 Winkie | mgoetze: not so new, but especially sucky |
| 13:02 mgoetze | anyway, it seems you are installing into memory rather than onto the hard drive :) |
| 13:02 Winkie | mgoetze: i'm clearly missing /lib/modules/ |
| 13:02 Winkie | yes :D |
| 13:02 Winkie | that would make sense |
| 13:03 Winkie | now all i have to remember is how the hell i got 2.6.30 :D |
| 13:03 mgoetze | lenny-backports has 2.6.30 |
| 13:05 Winkie | mgoetze: oh sweet well i got the sid version so it's all cool |
| 13:05 Winkie | mgoetze: thanks for your help though, seriously good catch |
| 13:05 Winkie | i was blind to it |
| 13:05 mgoetze | np |
| 13:09 Mrfai | since the mount of hda1 failed, you are installing all packages into the ramdisk => no space left..... |
| 13:10 Winkie | Mrfai: yeah, i am just trying a hopefully fixed run now :) |
| 13:12 Winkie | /dev/hda1 70G 212M 66G 1% /target |
| 13:12 Winkie | seems fine :) |
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| 13:15 Mrfai | looks much better |
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| 13:22 StoneCraX | Hi, i have here a Fai-Installation which was maintained by one of my colleges wich is no longer working in my company, what i want to do is to install additional Kernels with custom initrd's, but i dont know where to put them. i read about putting kernels in fai.conf, but there is such no line in our current setup which works. im some kind of lost :-) |
| 13:23 Winkie | StoneCraX: does this installation system install only debian? |
| 13:23 StoneCraX | do i have to chroot into the nfs and just install them and create the initrd for it |
| 13:23 StoneCraX | yes, debian only |
| 13:23 Winkie | StoneCraX: then i don't see anything wrong with chrooting into the nfsroot and installing them, remember you'll have to move them to tftp/fai/ in order to have clients boot them |
| 13:24 StoneCraX | the problem behind with it is, that debian kicked the Broadcom BNX Firmware, and now our Dell-Servers wont boot with PXE |
| 13:26 StoneCraX | okay, chroot into nfsroot, install kernel, create initrd, my it to "PXE"-Folder an start client-install, right? |
| 13:26 StoneCraX | mv , not my |
| 13:27 incognitu | is it possible to integrate the fai pxe into our curruntly running pxe (on windows) |
| 13:30 Mrfai | incognitu: yes it's possible if windows complies to default PXE behaviour. |
| 13:30 Mrfai | StoneCraX: I've never heared about putting kernels into fai.conf |
| 13:31 Winkie | StoneCraX: yeah i am thinking that should work just fine, you can always come back here if you have problems |
| 13:31 mgoetze | StoneCraX: please don't chroot into the nfsroot, it's not a clean solution |
| 13:32 Winkie | mgoetze: is there a better solution? |
| 13:32 mgoetze | StoneCraX: instead, add "firmware-bnx2" to /etc/fai/NFSROOT, and rerun make-fai-nfsroot |
| 13:32 StoneCraX | okay |
| 13:32 StoneCraX | but did the chroot already right now :-( |
| 13:33 mgoetze | the point is that the nfsroot should be considered generated data |
| 13:33 StoneCraX | and installed that stuff. i read about putting kernel into fai.conf in the Fai wiki |
| 13:33 mgoetze | to be recreated from your configuration whenever you rerun make-fai-nfsroot |
| 13:34 StoneCraX | okay, gonna try that, thx |
| 13:34 mgoetze | i know there are some people who handcraft their nfsroot, but in the long run, i'm sure it creates more work, especially if you ever want to upgrade |
| 13:34 incognitu | thx mrfai |
| 13:34 incognitu | also any idea how to? |
| 13:36 Mrfai | incognitu: ask microsoft |
| 13:39 incognitu | ok will call bill in a sec |
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