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04:57 \sh	moins
04:58 mgoetze	jetzt schon?
05:00 \sh	jo
05:00 \sh	konnt nich pennen ;)
05:01 \sh	wohl gestern noch zuviel gecoded
05:01 \sh	und jetzt steht noch ein update von zend-framework for ubuntu an...grmpf
05:01 mgoetze	ieh zend
Action: mgoetze geht jetzt erstmal inne vorlesung
05:02 \sh	jetzt schon? :)
05:02 mgoetze	tja seitdem ich wieder studiere ist das leben hart
05:02 mgoetze	als ich vollzeit gearbeitet habe musste ich vor 11 meistens nichts machen :(
05:03 \sh	hehe :)
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07:13 telmich	moin moin
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07:16 allstars	jaunty fai continued...
07:17 allstars	Hi, i managed to run fai-setup without erros on jaunty
07:17 allstars	the problem with udevinfo: change to udevadm on a proper place in the make-nfsroot script.
07:18 allstars	then I copied (rsync -a) the nfsroot and config to our kickstart server
07:18 allstars	everything goes well except for grub, the shell.log says:
07:18 allstars	grub-probe: error: Cannot open `/boot/grub/device.map'
07:19 allstars	dpkg-query: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' for reading: No such file or directory
07:19 allstars	chroot: cannot run command `/usr/sbin/update-grub': No such file or directory
07:19 allstars	I'm not a grub specialist, someone knows what's going on here?
07:20 allstars	whene I reboot the just install fai-client I get the grub> prompt.
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07:50 allstars	for the just joined:
07:50 allstars	jaunty fai continued...
07:50 allstars	Hi, i managed to run fai-setup without erros on jaunty
07:50 allstars	the problem with udevinfo: change to udevadm on a proper place in the make-nfsroot script.
07:51 allstars	then I copied (rsync -a) the nfsroot and config to our kickstart server
07:51 allstars	everything goes well except for grub, the shell.log says:
07:51 allstars	grub-probe: error: Cannot open `/boot/grub/device.map'
07:51 allstars	dpkg-query: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' for reading: No such file or directory
07:51 allstars	chroot: cannot run command `/usr/sbin/update-grub': No such file or directory
07:51 allstars	I'm not a grub specialist, someone knows what's going on here?
07:51 allstars	when I reboot the just install fai-client I get the grub> prompt.
07:52 oz_	allstars: when you list /boot on the client, is the a vmlinuz* file? (a kernel?)
07:53 allstars	nope, ls /boot :
07:53 allstars	System.map-2.6.28-11-server  config-2.6.28-11-server      memtest86+.bin               vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-server
07:53 allstars	abi-2.6.28-11-server         initrd.img-2.6.28-11-server  vmcoreinfo-2.6.28-11-server
07:53 allstars	sorry, yes :)
07:53 oz_	allstars: allstars : there is no 'grub' dir?
07:54 allstars	no, seemed strange to me to...
07:54 oz_	allstars: did you do a "fai-setup"?
07:55 Mrfai	have a look at: http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/FAIUbuntuGrubProblems
07:55 allstars	Yep, as I said in my first lines
07:58 oz_	hm. could be that this problem is a bit different...grub seems to to be installed on the host.
08:01 Mrfai	allstars: your are rsyncing the nfsroot to another server. Then you get the cannot open error. I guess this is not the error message from rsync.
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08:01 tempel	hai
08:01 allstars	No, the error is in the shell.log (from the fai install)
08:02 Mrfai	allstars: put your fai.log and shell.log onto paste.debian.net
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08:03 allstars	ok, just a moment to find out how. And I put set -x in the grub script so you have a bit more output..
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08:07 stockholm	Mrfai: when creating the nfsroot with the current version from the köln repository it fails because it does not mount /sys (not sure if it mounts proc, but it needs both)
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08:13 stockholm	for udev
08:14 Mrfai	stockholm: please show me a log file. It works perfectly for me and others.
08:14 stockholm	will do
08:15 stockholm	i am setting up a new fai server in the near future
08:16 allstars	Mrfai: pasting done
08:16 Mrfai	which url?
08:19 allstars	sorry: 38865, 38866 and http://paste.debian.net/38867
08:23 Mrfai	allstars: you are using a very old version of FAI. Try with 3.2.20. Ask \sh because he had successfully installed ubuntu with FAI.
08:23 \sh	not right successfullly...I just got some problems with /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh after initramfs
08:23 \sh	but most of the job is done
08:25 \sh	I wonder if anyone saw something similar: after initramfs finished it starts /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh (mounting /var/run, /var/lock as tmpfs
08:25 \sh	adn this is failing for some unknown reason
08:25 allstars	Mrfai: I installed fai on jaunty with apt-get install fai-quickstart
08:26 allstars	Is there a better way?
08:27 \sh	allstars: fai on ubuntu is broken :)
08:28 \sh	until I find the time to fix it...which will be done during this cycle and next
08:29 \sh	allstars: use debian lenny + all non-free firmware packages + fai from the koeln repository which you can find on http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai and use that to install jaunty server/desktops
08:30 allstars	yep, thx, saw it already. Come back when tried 3.2.20.
08:30 \sh	lazyb0y: I wanted to ask you if you saw that issue when you do ubuntu installs via fai...
08:31 \sh	oh noes
08:32 \sh	I'm such a fart
08:33 oz_	? :-)
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08:38 allstars	BTW: it all works nice on hardy..
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08:39 \sh	ROOT_FS == / and / needs /var/run and /var/lock ... and I doedel forget that part
08:42 \sh	this I did in the past for sles, too...but I had to skiptask mountdisk and had to do all the formatting and mounting by myself (because of setup_harddisk couldn't deal with EIT/GPT labels)...now we have setup_storage and this works out of the box...so I need to hook task mountdisk and mount / create /var/run and /var/lock and unmount it, to let standard task mountdisk do its job
08:42 \sh	oh I need to bang my head really hard on my desk...*bangbangbang
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08:52 \sh	Mrfai: tell me, where did you define mount2dir?
08:57 \sh	http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-fai-devel@uni-koeln.de/msg00116.html waere eine loesung
09:02 \sh	vergiss es :) ich habs :)
09:25 stockholm	Mrfai: http://paste.debian.net/38870/
09:25 stockholm	Mrfai: #
09:25 stockholm	udev requires a mounted sysfs, not started. ^[[31mfailed!^[[39;49m
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09:38 stockholm	it works with this fix:
09:38 stockholm	mount sys $NFSROOT/sys -t sysfs
09:38 stockholm	in upgrade_nfsroot
09:39 stockholm	trivial fix
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09:42 \sh	and it looks like that my ubuntu installation now works...
09:51 \sh	Mrfai: btw...new slogan for FAI: The Installation and Deployment Framework for SysAdmins Pro++ ;)
10:03 stockholm	how does a config file for tftp look like with lennies inetd?
10:03 stockholm	inetutils-inetd
10:03 stockholm	and
10:05 stockholm	tftpd-hpa
10:05 \sh	stockholm: if you are using tftpd-hpa you should start it as standalone service, not via inetd
10:06 stockholm	\sh: oh? why? i always started it via inetd
10:06 \sh	stockholm: I had the problem when too many installation clients were hitting tftpd inetd closed the tftp port
10:07 \sh	using it as standalone fixed it
10:07 stockholm	ah
10:07 Mrfai	stockholm: it would be nice if you copuld write a bug report for this
10:07 stockholm	Mrfai: i can do that
10:07 \sh	so I remove the service from inetd and set /etc/default/tftpd-hpa RUN_DAEMON="yes'
10:08 stockholm	\sh: and how did you configure the demon?
10:08 Mrfai	\sh inetd has a maximum number of connections per minute. default to 256.
10:09 Mrfai	you can change it with wait.800 or nowait.900 or similar
10:09 stockholm	yes, the standard "DoS" protection
10:09 \sh	stockholm: plain tftpd-hpa from debian has a default file under /etc/default... just say RUN_DAEMON="yes" and set the tftpd opts below that line
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10:13 stockholm	\sh: i dont see a daemon
10:13 stockholm	RUN_DAEMON="yes"
10:13 stockholm	OPTIONS="-l -s /srv/tftp/fai/"
10:14 \sh	then restart inetd with removed tftp service (openbsd-inetd) and /etc/init.d/tftp-hpa start
10:15 \sh	/etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start is more correct
10:15 \sh	debian-lenny-fai:/usr/lib/fai# ps -ef|grep tftp
10:15 \sh	root      2830     1  0 09:30 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -l -s /srv/fai/tftp
10:17 stockholm	got it
10:17 \sh	hmm...somehow my debconf settings are not applied...let's see if my fix works now...booting works now like a charm
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11:26 \sh	Mrfai: there is a strange problem with fai-debconf
11:27 \sh	Mrfai: when I call fai-debconf $FAI/debconf inside a script/<CLASS>/10-debconf e.g. it tells me, that it tries to debconf the packages and tries to reconfigure them...but in the end, the changes are not inside the /target
11:27 \sh	Mrfai: when I do that manually from the console of the installation client...it works
11:28 \sh	ah stop..now it make sens
11:30 oz_	:-)
11:31 \sh	ah no
11:31 \sh	the debconf settings are in, but e.g. for console-setup it doesn
11:32 \sh	't execute console-setup.postinst somehow...so all my console setups are still US english
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11:33 oz_	\sh: try to get the setting from a 'fresh' host...
11:34 oz_	I was fiddling around with keyboard setting also a long time
11:34 \sh	oz_: I have...but they are not applied ... and I think I know why...lemme try
11:34 oz_	getting correct debconfdata fixed this issue
11:35 \sh	debconf-utils (where debconf-get-selections sits) is not installed as essential in ubuntu....therefore fai-debconf fails (it uses it inside the chroot)
11:36 oz_	whut?
11:36 \sh	reconfigure_packages() {
11:36 \sh	local packages p tmpdb
11:36 \sh	[ -s $LOGDIR/debconf.data ] || return # nothing to do if is size 0 or missing
11:36 \sh	if [ -r $LOGDIR/debconf.old ] ; then
11:36 \sh	$ROOTCMD debconf-get-selections > $LOGDIR/debconf.new
11:37 \sh	and debconf-get-selections is not installed by default in ubuntu...I wonder if it's installed by default in debian
11:37 \sh	(the package debconf-utils is not installed by default in ubuntu, where debconf-get-selections is part of)
11:41 \sh	http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/FAIUbuntuAndVarRunVarLockProblem
11:53 \sh	I hope this workaround help people installing ubuntu with fai ;)
11:53 \sh	it looks evil, and yes it is, but it works :)
11:54 \sh	until we patch setup-storage ;)
11:56 Mrfai	\sh: the patch for lock and run is already included in mount2disk in a slightly different way
11:57 \sh	in a newer version?
11:57 Mrfai	sorry, in the same way
11:57 Mrfai	it was added in 3.2.18
11:58 \sh	argl..I should sync the deb sources for make-fai-nfsroot ... don't use two different version
12:00 Mrfai	you should sync all FAI sources, not only make-fia-nfsroot
12:00 \sh	yes...I see now my problem...
12:06 oz_	\sh: what would be you rrecommended docu if one wanted to start with FAI and jaunty?
Action: oz_ would be willing to test
12:07 \sh	oz_: actually the multidistro-fai documentation is enough to get started... you need to change some things...but the way is the same
12:09 \sh	ok...the debconf settings are applied correctly now..but /etc/default/console-setup is not correctly generated
12:11 \sh	if "dpkg-reconfigure -f noninteractive console-setup" ran afterwards, everything is back to US english
12:11 \sh	even the debconf stuff
12:13 lazyb0y	\sh: hmm, don't know what issue - ot imte to check now - please write mail...
12:13 lazyb0y	\sh: I wanted to say: "not time to check" now ;)
12:14 \sh	lazyb0y: forget everything solved.
12:22 \sh	did I say, that I hate totally borked postinst scripts?
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12:48 \sh	Mrfai: I just had a talk with Colin Watson about a special problem ;) could be interesting for everybody, though
12:48 \sh	quote:
12:48 \sh	14:40 < \sh> cjwatson: hmmm...if I change on an installed ubuntu system some new debconf db entries for console-setup, and do a dpkg-reconfigure -f noninteractive console-setup, /etc/default/console-setup is not properly regenerated with the new debconf values
12:48 \sh	14:41 < cjwatson> the canonical source for configuration is the filesystem, not debconf
12:48 \sh	14:41 < cjwatson> if they differ the filesystem wins
12:49 \sh	regarding packages like console-setup this could be a tricky task debconf ;)
12:50 oz_	bloody.
12:51 \sh	well...
12:52 \sh	the fun part: console-setup is installed somehow in the debootstrap (IMHO) with default values like "kbmodel=us"
12:52 \sh	now I changed the debconf values to be "de"
12:53 \sh	dpkg-reconfigure -f noninteractive console-setup (or what fai-debconf does) doesn't recreated the /etc/default/console-setup file, but is reading it, and grepping through the vars and takes the old values and rewrites the new file with old values, not from debconf
12:53 \sh	therefore, the debconf always fails
12:53 \sh	better "the debconf way always fails"
12:53 Mrfai	\sh: maybe ucf wins, not debconf. Same problem as with grub?
12:54 \sh	deleting /etc/default/console-setup and dpkg-reconfigure console-setup ... then it creates a complete new one, and uses the debconf values
12:54 \sh	Mrfai: console-setup is not under ucf it seems
12:55 \sh	yeah..it's not ucf managed
12:55 \sh	Mrfai: you can check console-setup.postinst and you see the problem...or much better set -x after set -e
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13:44 incognitu	guys is there any documentation about setting up a custom kernel in fai
13:45 incognitu	for deployment
13:57 edoreld	x
13:57 edoreld	sorry, wrong text box...
14:11 Mrfai	incognitu: use make-kpkg for building a package containing your custom kernel. Then create a local package repository and add this to sources.list
14:12 incognitu	thx
14:12 incognitu	hard to do?
14:14 oz_	http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.en.html
14:14 oz_	this question is not FAI specific, btw
14:15 incognitu	ty
14:36 incognitu	i make-kpkg the kernel and tried dpkg -i <kernelimage> on diff machine
14:36 incognitu	does that machine needs the same configuration?
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20:10 derrell	Hi all. I'm using 3.2.17 in Lenny. I discovered a bug similar to one reported where vol_id -u returns no UUID on a swap device. In the old report, it was due to needing to run "mdadm --zero-superblock <device>". In my case, the device had never been part of a raid array. I solved the problem with "mke2fs <device>" followed by "mkswap <device>".
20:15 derrell	A subsequent run of an FAI install completed the partitioning.
20:16 derrell	There was talk of adding the zero-superblock to setup_storage. I also adding mke2fs for swap devices makes sense?
20:16 derrell	It'd be better to know why mkswap doesn't properly clear things out as it should...
20:17 derrell	s/I also/I wonder if/
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