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08:04 edoreldHow do I associate the name of a class (e.g: LABORATORY1) to the name of a host (e.g: labrat)?
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08:06 edoreldWhat I mean is..gnomehost installs a gnome environment, demohost a command-line environment, how can I do that with my own hostname?
08:12 oz_edoreld: you need to add you host in the appropiate classes.
08:12 oz_have a look into /srv/fai/config/class
08:13 edoreldok
08:13 edoreldI'll do that :)
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09:30 oz_edoreld: how is it running?
09:30 edoreldmeh
09:31 edoreldI edited the file "50-host-classes" in $FAICONFIG/class and added a entry
09:31 edoreldwich says something like echo "FAIBASE DHCPD DEMO MYHOST>
09:32 edoreldnot with ">" -.-
09:32 edoreldbut then when i boot from client it appears not as MYHOST but as myhost
09:32 edoreldwell it doesn't matter much
09:33 edoreldbecause I managed to make it run my own script in the MYHOST folder in $FAICONFIG/scripts
09:33 edoreldwoot :)
09:34 oz_edoreld: read the fai-guide
09:35 oz_it's described in there
09:35 edoreldot¡s okay I made it work as I wanted :)
09:36 edoreldI just climbed the most important wall for me :)
09:36 edoreldHow to create classes, assign classes to hosts, and make scripts run on those classes :)
09:36 oz_edoreld: I really recommend you: if you have a blue minute re-read the guide and re-think the installation.
09:37 edoreldBut it's working now as I want it to...
09:37 edoreldI mean, I don't have an issue reading the guide
09:37 edoreldBut I'm not sure what I need to read
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09:46 oz_edoreld: everything :)
09:48 edoreldI've read the guide over and over but it seems there is an impenetrable and invisible barrier between it and my mind
09:49 edoreld:)
09:49 oz_edoreld: if you can locate some of the barriers, and send then to the list, it would be greatly appreciated
09:50 edoreldThe only thing I'm missing is a detailed explanation on how classes work, how to make them, some nice examples
09:50 edoreldthe list?
09:51 oz_linux-fai@uni-koeln.de
09:51 edoreldwhat should I say?
09:51 edoreldCould you add class examples & more detailed instructions on making & using them? << ?
09:52 edoreldor do I ask for help?
09:52 edoreld^_^
09:52 oz_"hi all, thanks for creating FAI, it serves me great! Just I did have (or still have) the following problems with the Documentation:
09:52 oz_and then 1) 2) 3) ... and so on.
09:52 oz_edoreld: you can also ask for help
09:52 edoreldDo I get answers in my email inbox?
09:53 oz_yes, if your mail setup is correcvt. ;)
09:54 edoreldofc ^_^
09:54 edoreldI'll write something then
09:54 edoreld:)
09:54 oz_thx
09:57 edoreldshould I put a custom subject?
09:57 edoreldor does this mailing list require something specific?
09:57 oz_edoreld: just mail like mailing to any other list...
09:57 oz_nothing special. except the people who read this list.
09:57 edoreldWell, it should be the first one for me so I'm kind of lost :)
09:58 edoreldok ^_^
09:58 oz_they are the elected. ;)
Action: edoreld hails
10:01 edorelddone :)
10:07 edoreldHow could I make a custom script copy configuration files into a directory in the client when it is installing?
10:07 oz_what's the subject`?
10:07 edoreldis called "Class documentation"
10:08 edoreldI know how to refer to the directories in the client with $target, but I'm not sure where I should put the conf files I want to copy
10:08 edoreldcp ? $target/<whatever>
10:08 mgoetzeedoreld: i already told you last week to read the manpage for fcopy...
10:08 edoreldouch
10:08 edoreldforgot T_T
10:11 edoreldA fish has more memory that I do ^_^
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10:27 edoreldI'm reading the man documentation for fcopy and something strikes me as unusual...
10:27 edoreldthere's this example command: fcopy -s /files -t /target /etc/X11/XF86Config
10:28 edoreldAnd then you say (this is what I don't get): this command copies one of these files from the directory /files/etc/X11/XF86Config to the file /target/etc/X86Config
10:28 edoreldShouldn't it be to /target/etc/X11/X86Config ?
10:29 mgoetzeyes, though of course there is no reason whatsoever to use -t in a normal fai scenario
10:29 mgoetzeor -s for that matter
10:30 oz_mgoetze: the docu often has this.
10:30 edoreldit says -s & -t are required, but usually set through variables in FAI
11:26 edoreldJust for testing I created a file called FAIBASE in /etc/dhcp3 and ran the command: fcopy -s / -t /root/target /etc/dhcp3. I'm getting the error fcopy: no matching file for any class for etc/dhcp3 defined. Any hints?
11:29 mgoetzeif you're running outside of fai you don't have any classes. you shouldn't do phony testing like this... just put it in your fai config and do an installation
11:29 mgoetzewithout -s or -t
11:34 edoreldhmm ok
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11:46 ASDFMRKSich möchte gerne eine klasse erstellen die sich nur um bestimmte apt packete kümmert. dazu habe ich in /package_config eine datei angelegt und dort die zu installierenden pakete eingetragen. dannn habe ich in /class die 50-host.. datei angepasst und in die case anweisung meinen hostnamen dazugeschrieben und die klassen (und meine klasse) eingetragen die zur installation mit fai aufgerufen werden sollen
11:46 ASDFMRKSfunktioniert nur leider nicht so ganz.  http://paste.debian.net/37750/
11:47 oz_welchen Namen hat die Datei in /package_config?
11:47 oz_(/srv/fai/config/package_config, I know...)
11:48 ASDFMRKSMINIMAL
11:50 oz_ASDFMRKS: please put the complete log there.
11:50 ASDFMRKSi'll try. ssh connection always breaks
11:59 oz_breaking ssh connection ain't good.
12:02 ASDFMRKShttp://paste.debian.net/37809/
12:02 ASDFMRKSfinally
12:04 mgoetzealso die klasse MINIMAL hat er, versucht aber trotzdem nicht apache2 zu installieren
12:05 mgoetzealso evtl. ein fehler in package_config/MINIMAL
12:05 oz_ASDFMRKS: paste mal package_config/MINIMAL auf  http://paste.debian.net
12:06 oz_ich denk auch, mgoetze liegt wohl richtig
12:06 ASDFMRKSsind 3 zeilen
12:06 ASDFMRKShttp://paste.debian.net/37810/
12:07 ASDFMRKSnaja er probierts ja, oder? er lädt doch die pakete?
12:07 ASDFMRKSmom :|
12:07 oz_hmm. das file sieht OK aus.
12:11 ASDFMRKSdie fai.log ist nicht dieselbe wie gestern... http://paste.debian.net/37750/ hier hatte ich die auszüge daraus reinkopiert
12:12 oz_?
12:12 ASDFMRKSich kanns mir auch nicht erklären. ich setz nochmal eine testkiste auf
12:12 oz_ASDFMRKS: ich verstehe die Problem nicht...
12:13 oz_die fai.log sieht immer ein bisschen anders aus. ;)
12:13 ASDFMRKSin the other fai.log stood, that the system is loading apache2 and depending packages
12:13 ASDFMRKSbut it wasn't installed neither
12:14 oz_ASDFMRKS: are you german?
12:14 ASDFMRKSyes
12:14 oz_okay, dann können wir auch deutsch
12:14 oz_:-D
12:14 ASDFMRKS:>
12:16 ASDFMRKSinstall. sollte gleich fertig sein. fai ist ja schnell ;)
12:18 edoreldeveryone is German here!
12:18 edorelderhm... Alles sind Deutscher ?
12:18 edoreld:)
12:19 ASDFMRKSabsolut!
12:19 ASDFMRKS:>
12:19 oz_edoreld: no.
12:19 oz_but most of us :)
12:19 edoreldheh :)
12:19 edoreldI was more concerned about the syntax that about the answer to the question :p
12:19 edoreldaber ist gut, Ich lerne Deutsch!
12:20 oz_edoreld: no, you don't need to.
12:20 edoreldalso... Ich lebe in Deutschland, Ich brauche Deutsch lernen! :)
12:21 mgoetzes/brauche/muss/
12:21 oz_okay. but this # here mustn't turn into a german class. :)
12:22 edoreldheh, ur right :)
12:22 edoreldah ok muss...
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13:25 ASDFMRKSso
13:26 ASDFMRKShttp://paste.debian.net/37824/
13:26 ASDFMRKSdas ist jetzt die richtige fai.log ... musste noch die dhcp config abändern
13:26 ASDFMRKSjetzt sieht man, dass er apache auflistet
13:27 ASDFMRKSdpkg -l apache2* sagt: http://paste.debian.net/37825/
13:29 ASDFMRKSkeiner mehr da :/
13:30 edoreldwhy don't you try to reinstall apache2 ?
13:31 edoreldBesides making fai work, is never a good idea to have a faulty package! :(
13:31 ASDFMRKSmh. the problem is, fai should install it automatically, so the user don't have to do that
13:31 edoreldah
13:31 edoreldI see
13:31 ASDFMRKSdpkg on the installed machine
13:31 ASDFMRKS:)
13:31 ASDFMRKSsorry
13:37 oz_ASDFMRKS: what's in software.log?
13:38 ASDFMRKShttp://paste.debian.net/37828/
13:39 oz_hm. I really wonder.
13:39 oz_according to this log, the pkgs should be cleanly installed.
13:39 ASDFMRKSich auch :)
13:40 ASDFMRKSyeah. should
13:42 oz_ASDFMRKS: can you log into the machine during installation?
13:43 oz_did you set FAI_FLAGS=sshd,verbose,createvt?
13:43 ASDFMRKSyes i can log in. i'm on it right now
13:43 ASDFMRKSwhere do i set that flag?
13:46 oz_ASDFMRKS: if you can log in, it is very likely that it was set already
13:46 oz_you set this varable at boot-time.
13:47 ASDFMRKSi mean, i can login after openssh is installed
13:47 oz_ASDFMRKS: if you login to the box right after installation, but befor the first boot...
13:47 ASDFMRKSi log in via virt-viewer
13:47 oz_what happen if you do: cd /target
13:47 oz_and then 'dpkg -l | grep apache'
13:48 ASDFMRKSnothing
13:48 oz_hu?
13:49 ASDFMRKShost:/target# dpkg -l | grep apache
13:49 ASDFMRKShost:/target#
13:49 oz_AI!
13:50 oz_<- wrote something wrong
13:50 ASDFMRKS:>
13:50 oz_try "chroot /target" insterad of "cd /target"
13:50 oz_and then 'dpkg -l | grep apache'
13:51 ASDFMRKSomg
13:51 ASDFMRKSnow it seems to be installed :|
13:51 ASDFMRKSwhy?!
13:51 oz_ASDFMRKS: you fai seems to work up to this point
13:51 oz_now, reboot the client
13:52 oz_if the apache is gone after reboot...
13:52 ASDFMRKSwhat does that mean? i just set the /target as home folder?!
13:52 oz_I think we need voodoo or something.
13:52 oz_omg
13:52 oz_ /target as home folder?
13:52 ASDFMRKSno
13:52 oz_15:52 < ASDFMRKS> what does that mean? i just set the /target as home folder?!
13:53 ASDFMRKSi didn't get what the chroot made?
13:53 oz_       chroot - run command or interactive shell with special root directory
13:53 ASDFMRKSso target is now my root dir?
13:54 oz_yes. and /target is where FAI installs all software to
13:54 ASDFMRKSok... so there should be a hook/script which does chroot /target automatically?
13:55 oz_no
13:55 oz_why?
13:55 ASDFMRKSmh, so i don't have to do that manually? :)
13:55 oz_the chroot /target is just for debugging purposes
13:56 oz_ASDFMRKS: you had the problem, that after reboot apache isn't installed, right?
13:56 ASDFMRKSyes
13:56 oz_so. the logs tell us: your apache is installed.
13:57 oz_chroot /target tells us: apache is installed.
13:57 ASDFMRKSbut if i don't do chrott /target i can't use it?
13:57 oz_we reboot: apache seems not to be installed.
13:57 ASDFMRKSchroot
13:57 oz_so question is: what happens between installation and system startup?
13:58 oz_chroot, right. I am not on the console, typing error won't kill us. :)
13:58 ASDFMRKS:)
13:59 oz_so, after install the box boots from the local HDD, right?
13:59 ASDFMRKSit should
13:59 ASDFMRKSi'll try
13:59 oz_try.
Action: oz_ has to think of jimmy cliff "you can get it if you really try"
14:02 ASDFMRKSok
14:03 ASDFMRKShost:~# apache2
14:03 ASDFMRKS-bash: apache2: command not found
14:04 oz_dpkg -l | grep apache?
14:04 ASDFMRKSnothing
14:04 ASDFMRKSno /target
14:04 ASDFMRKSexisting
14:04 oz_what you boot is not what you install, it seems.
14:05 ASDFMRKSi looked up the lease
14:05 ASDFMRKSmac fits, ip should be right
14:07 oz_ASDFMRKS: after install, don't you boot from hdd?
14:08 ASDFMRKSthe thing is. we're doing it with kvm and libvirt, i have to edit xml files after installation, otherwise it boots froom network again. thats probably why that's not the "same" machine
14:21 ASDFMRKSi still didn't get it.. i think.. /target is just a directory?
14:25 ASDFMRKSa installed package should be executable from anywhere?
14:27 mgoetze /target ?
14:27 mgoetzeyou mean $target ?
14:29 ASDFMRKSisn't it?
14:29 edoreldmgoetze could you give me a hand? I have a script that executes on the client on boot (when it is installing). The script contains the line fcopy "/root/scripts/dhcp/dhcpd.conf" $target/etc/dhcp3. According to the boot log the script executes successfully, but the file doesn't get copied on the client :(
14:30 mgoetzethere shouldn't be anything in /root on the installation system
14:31 mgoetzeyou need to put that file in /srv/fai/config/files/etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf/CLASS
14:31 mgoetzeand then write "fcopy /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf" in your script
14:33 edoreldahhhhhhhhhhh
14:33 edoreldYou just broke the bulb in my brain out of illumination!
14:36 edoreldDanke Mann :)
14:36 mgoetzenp
14:39 oz_:-)
14:49 ASDFMRKSoz_: should apache only be available after i reboot the faiclient? so the problem is that i can't execute it right after the insall process?
14:50 oz_ASDFMRKS: for what in heaven's name you need apache during the install process?
14:50 ASDFMRKSafter the install process i mean :/
14:51 ASDFMRKSthe machine does no automativ reboot
14:52 oz_ASDFMRKS: if you need a automatic reboot, add reboot to FAI_FLAPGS
14:52 oz_FAI_FLAGS, even.
14:55 ASDFMRKSwhere do i have to change them? in /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default ?
14:57 oz_yes
14:57 mgoetzeASDFMRKS: man fai-chboot
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15:39 oz_wohee.
15:39 edoreldI don't know why you say that, but gratz :)
15:39 oz_Ignore "ignored" directories (see "-I" for details). <- what does this sentence mean?
15:39 oz_double negation is prone to cause misunderstandings...
15:40 oz_is the ignoration ignored? or are the ignored files still ignored?
Action: oz_ is glad that he just has no ignores
15:41 edoreldI think it means: Ignore that they have been ignored
15:42 oz_edoreld: I think the same...
15:42 edoreld:)
15:42 oz_but I know that one needs clear statements in manuals
15:42 edoreldCould be clearer though...heh
15:42 edoreldIndeed :)
15:42 oz_nada importand. just stubled.
15:42 oz_stumpled about it, even.
15:43 oz_bah. stumbled. I quit. :)
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15:48 edoreldproblem solved, it was a kind of a syntax error...ahem ahem
15:49 edoreldNow all seems cool, one last install and chicken awaits me at Kreuzberg...aah that fantastic chicken with pommes....
15:49 edoreldThanks for all the help ^_^ And cya around :D
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18:02 SlowMotionhi all
18:03 SlowMotioni got a problem in c/c++
18:03 SlowMotioncan anybody help me?
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21:58 lazyb0yh01ger: hmm, nee, nix gesehen!
21:59 h01gerlazyb0y, guckstu jetzt! :)
21:59 lazyb0ybin isch identified jetzt.
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