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[07:10] <telmich> guten morgen
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[08:04] <edoreld> How do I associate the name of a class (e.g: LABORATORY1) to the name of a host (e.g: labrat)?
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[08:06] <edoreld> What I mean is..gnomehost installs a gnome environment, demohost a command-line environment, how can I do that with my own hostname?
[08:12] <oz_> edoreld: you need to add you host in the appropiate classes.
[08:12] <oz_> have a look into /srv/fai/config/class
[08:13] <edoreld> ok
[08:13] <edoreld> I'll do that :)
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[09:30] <oz_> edoreld: how is it running?
[09:30] <edoreld> meh
[09:31] <edoreld> I edited the file "50-host-classes" in $FAICONFIG/class and added a entry
[09:31] <edoreld> wich says something like echo "FAIBASE DHCPD DEMO MYHOST> 
[09:32] <edoreld> not with ">" -.-
[09:32] <edoreld> but then when i boot from client it appears not as MYHOST but as myhost
[09:32] <edoreld> well it doesn't matter much
[09:33] <edoreld> because I managed to make it run my own script in the MYHOST folder in $FAICONFIG/scripts
[09:33] <edoreld> woot :)
[09:34] <oz_> edoreld: read the fai-guide
[09:35] <oz_> it's described in there
[09:35] <edoreld> ot¡s okay I made it work as I wanted :)
[09:36] <edoreld> I just climbed the most important wall for me :)
[09:36] <edoreld> How to create classes, assign classes to hosts, and make scripts run on those classes :)
[09:36] <oz_> edoreld: I really recommend you: if you have a blue minute re-read the guide and re-think the installation.
[09:37] <edoreld> But it's working now as I want it to...
[09:37] <edoreld> I mean, I don't have an issue reading the guide
[09:37] <edoreld> But I'm not sure what I need to read
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[09:46] <oz_> edoreld: everything :)
[09:48] <edoreld> I've read the guide over and over but it seems there is an impenetrable and invisible barrier between it and my mind
[09:49] <edoreld> :)
[09:49] <oz_> edoreld: if you can locate some of the barriers, and send then to the list, it would be greatly appreciated
[09:50] <edoreld> The only thing I'm missing is a detailed explanation on how classes work, how to make them, some nice examples
[09:50] <edoreld> the list?
[09:51] <oz_> linux-fai@uni-koeln.de
[09:51] <edoreld> what should I say?
[09:51] <edoreld> Could you add class examples & more detailed instructions on making & using them? << ?
[09:52] <edoreld> or do I ask for help?
[09:52] <edoreld> ^_^
[09:52] <oz_> "hi all, thanks for creating FAI, it serves me great! Just I did have (or still have) the following problems with the Documentation:
[09:52] <oz_> and then 1) 2) 3) ... and so on.
[09:52] <oz_> edoreld: you can also ask for help
[09:52] <edoreld> Do I get answers in my email inbox?
[09:53] <oz_> yes, if your mail setup is correcvt. ;)
[09:54] <edoreld> ofc ^_^ 
[09:54] <edoreld> I'll write something then
[09:54] <edoreld> :)
[09:54] <oz_> thx
[09:57] <edoreld> should I put a custom subject?
[09:57] <edoreld> or does this mailing list require something specific?
[09:57] <oz_> edoreld: just mail like mailing to any other list...
[09:57] <oz_> nothing special. except the people who read this list.
[09:57] <edoreld> Well, it should be the first one for me so I'm kind of lost :)
[09:58] <edoreld> ok ^_^
[09:58] <oz_> they are the elected. ;)
[09:58] Action: edoreld hails
[10:01] <edoreld> done :)
[10:07] <edoreld> How could I make a custom script copy configuration files into a directory in the client when it is installing?
[10:07] <oz_> what's the subject`?
[10:07] <edoreld> is called "Class documentation"
[10:08] <edoreld> I know how to refer to the directories in the client with $target, but I'm not sure where I should put the conf files I want to copy
[10:08] <edoreld> cp ? $target/<whatever>
[10:08] <mgoetze> edoreld: i already told you last week to read the manpage for fcopy...
[10:08] <edoreld> ouch
[10:08] <edoreld> forgot T_T
[10:11] <edoreld> A fish has more memory that I do ^_^
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[10:27] <edoreld> I'm reading the man documentation for fcopy and something strikes me as unusual...
[10:27] <edoreld> there's this example command: fcopy -s /files -t /target /etc/X11/XF86Config
[10:28] <edoreld> And then you say (this is what I don't get): this command copies one of these files from the directory /files/etc/X11/XF86Config to the file /target/etc/X86Config
[10:28] <edoreld> Shouldn't it be to /target/etc/X11/X86Config ?
[10:29] <mgoetze> yes, though of course there is no reason whatsoever to use -t in a normal fai scenario
[10:29] <mgoetze> or -s for that matter
[10:30] <oz_> mgoetze: the docu often has this.
[10:30] <edoreld> it says -s & -t are required, but usually set through variables in FAI
[11:26] <edoreld> Just for testing I created a file called FAIBASE in /etc/dhcp3 and ran the command: fcopy -s / -t /root/target /etc/dhcp3. I'm getting the error fcopy: no matching file for any class for etc/dhcp3 defined. Any hints?
[11:29] <mgoetze> if you're running outside of fai you don't have any classes. you shouldn't do phony testing like this... just put it in your fai config and do an installation
[11:29] <mgoetze> without -s or -t
[11:34] <edoreld> hmm ok
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[11:46] <ASDFMRKS> ich möchte gerne eine klasse erstellen die sich nur um bestimmte apt packete kümmert. dazu habe ich in /package_config eine datei angelegt und dort die zu installierenden pakete eingetragen. dannn habe ich in /class die 50-host.. datei angepasst und in die case anweisung meinen hostnamen dazugeschrieben und die klassen (und meine klasse) eingetragen die zur installation mit fai aufgerufen werden sollen
[11:46] <ASDFMRKS> funktioniert nur leider nicht so ganz.  http://paste.debian.net/37750/
[11:47] <oz_> welchen Namen hat die Datei in /package_config?
[11:47] <oz_> (/srv/fai/config/package_config, I know...)
[11:48] <ASDFMRKS> MINIMAL
[11:50] <oz_> ASDFMRKS: please put the complete log there.
[11:50] <ASDFMRKS> i'll try. ssh connection always breaks
[11:59] <oz_> breaking ssh connection ain't good.
[12:02] <ASDFMRKS> http://paste.debian.net/37809/
[12:02] <ASDFMRKS> finally
[12:04] <mgoetze> also die klasse MINIMAL hat er, versucht aber trotzdem nicht apache2 zu installieren
[12:05] <mgoetze> also evtl. ein fehler in package_config/MINIMAL
[12:05] <oz_> ASDFMRKS: paste mal package_config/MINIMAL auf  http://paste.debian.net
[12:06] <oz_> ich denk auch, mgoetze liegt wohl richtig
[12:06] <ASDFMRKS> sind 3 zeilen
[12:06] <ASDFMRKS> http://paste.debian.net/37810/
[12:07] <ASDFMRKS> naja er probierts ja, oder? er lädt doch die pakete?
[12:07] <ASDFMRKS> mom :|
[12:07] <oz_> hmm. das file sieht OK aus.
[12:11] <ASDFMRKS> die fai.log ist nicht dieselbe wie gestern... http://paste.debian.net/37750/ hier hatte ich die auszüge daraus reinkopiert
[12:12] <oz_> ?
[12:12] <ASDFMRKS> ich kanns mir auch nicht erklären. ich setz nochmal eine testkiste auf
[12:12] <oz_> ASDFMRKS: ich verstehe die Problem nicht...
[12:13] <oz_> die fai.log sieht immer ein bisschen anders aus. ;)
[12:13] <ASDFMRKS> in the other fai.log stood, that the system is loading apache2 and depending packages
[12:13] <ASDFMRKS> but it wasn't installed neither
[12:14] <oz_> ASDFMRKS: are you german?
[12:14] <ASDFMRKS> yes
[12:14] <oz_> okay, dann können wir auch deutsch
[12:14] <oz_> :-D
[12:14] <ASDFMRKS> :>
[12:16] <ASDFMRKS> install. sollte gleich fertig sein. fai ist ja schnell ;)
[12:18] <edoreld> everyone is German here! 
[12:18] <edoreld> erhm... Alles sind Deutscher ?
[12:18] <edoreld> :)
[12:19] <ASDFMRKS> absolut!
[12:19] <ASDFMRKS> :>
[12:19] <oz_> edoreld: no.
[12:19] <oz_> but most of us :)
[12:19] <edoreld> heh :)
[12:19] <edoreld> I was more concerned about the syntax that about the answer to the question :p
[12:19] <edoreld> aber ist gut, Ich lerne Deutsch!
[12:20] <oz_> edoreld: no, you don't need to.
[12:20] <edoreld> also... Ich lebe in Deutschland, Ich brauche Deutsch lernen! :)
[12:21] <mgoetze> s/brauche/muss/
[12:21] <oz_> okay. but this # here mustn't turn into a german class. :)
[12:22] <edoreld> heh, ur right :)
[12:22] <edoreld> ah ok muss...
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[13:25] <ASDFMRKS> so
[13:26] <ASDFMRKS> http://paste.debian.net/37824/
[13:26] <ASDFMRKS> das ist jetzt die richtige fai.log ... musste noch die dhcp config abändern
[13:26] <ASDFMRKS> jetzt sieht man, dass er apache auflistet
[13:27] <ASDFMRKS> dpkg -l apache2* sagt: http://paste.debian.net/37825/
[13:29] <ASDFMRKS> keiner mehr da :/
[13:30] <edoreld> why don't you try to reinstall apache2 ?
[13:31] <edoreld> Besides making fai work, is never a good idea to have a faulty package! :(
[13:31] <ASDFMRKS> mh. the problem is, fai should install it automatically, so the user don't have to do that
[13:31] <edoreld> ah
[13:31] <edoreld> I see
[13:31] <ASDFMRKS> dpkg on the installed machine
[13:31] <ASDFMRKS> :)
[13:31] <ASDFMRKS> sorry
[13:37] <oz_> ASDFMRKS: what's in software.log?
[13:38] <ASDFMRKS> http://paste.debian.net/37828/
[13:39] <oz_> hm. I really wonder.
[13:39] <oz_> according to this log, the pkgs should be cleanly installed.
[13:39] <ASDFMRKS> ich auch :)
[13:40] <ASDFMRKS> yeah. should
[13:42] <oz_> ASDFMRKS: can you log into the machine during installation?
[13:43] <oz_> did you set FAI_FLAGS=sshd,verbose,createvt?
[13:43] <ASDFMRKS> yes i can log in. i'm on it right now
[13:43] <ASDFMRKS> where do i set that flag?
[13:46] <oz_> ASDFMRKS: if you can log in, it is very likely that it was set already
[13:46] <oz_> you set this varable at boot-time.
[13:47] <ASDFMRKS> i mean, i can login after openssh is installed
[13:47] <oz_> ASDFMRKS: if you login to the box right after installation, but befor the first boot...
[13:47] <ASDFMRKS> i log in via virt-viewer
[13:47] <oz_> what happen if you do: cd /target
[13:47] <oz_> and then 'dpkg -l | grep apache'
[13:48] <ASDFMRKS> nothing
[13:48] <oz_> hu?
[13:49] <ASDFMRKS> host:/target# dpkg -l | grep apache
[13:49] <ASDFMRKS> host:/target#
[13:49] <oz_> AI!
[13:50] <oz_> <- wrote something wrong
[13:50] <ASDFMRKS> :>
[13:50] <oz_> try "chroot /target" insterad of "cd /target"
[13:50] <oz_> and then 'dpkg -l | grep apache'
[13:51] <ASDFMRKS> omg
[13:51] <ASDFMRKS> now it seems to be installed :|
[13:51] <ASDFMRKS> why?!
[13:51] <oz_> ASDFMRKS: you fai seems to work up to this point
[13:51] <oz_> now, reboot the client
[13:52] <oz_> if the apache is gone after reboot...
[13:52] <ASDFMRKS> what does that mean? i just set the /target as home folder?!
[13:52] <oz_> I think we need voodoo or something.
[13:52] <oz_> omg
[13:52] <oz_>  /target as home folder?
[13:52] <ASDFMRKS> no
[13:52] <oz_> 15:52 < ASDFMRKS> what does that mean? i just set the /target as home folder?!
[13:53] <ASDFMRKS> i didn't get what the chroot made?
[13:53] <oz_>        chroot - run command or interactive shell with special root directory
[13:53] <ASDFMRKS> so target is now my root dir?
[13:54] <oz_> yes. and /target is where FAI installs all software to
[13:54] <ASDFMRKS> ok... so there should be a hook/script which does chroot /target automatically?
[13:55] <oz_> no
[13:55] <oz_> why?
[13:55] <ASDFMRKS> mh, so i don't have to do that manually? :)
[13:55] <oz_> the chroot /target is just for debugging purposes
[13:56] <oz_> ASDFMRKS: you had the problem, that after reboot apache isn't installed, right?
[13:56] <ASDFMRKS> yes
[13:56] <oz_> so. the logs tell us: your apache is installed.
[13:57] <oz_> chroot /target tells us: apache is installed.
[13:57] <ASDFMRKS> but if i don't do chrott /target i can't use it?
[13:57] <oz_> we reboot: apache seems not to be installed.
[13:57] <ASDFMRKS> chroot
[13:57] <oz_> so question is: what happens between installation and system startup?
[13:58] <oz_> chroot, right. I am not on the console, typing error won't kill us. :)
[13:58] <ASDFMRKS> :)
[13:59] <oz_> so, after install the box boots from the local HDD, right?
[13:59] <ASDFMRKS> it should
[13:59] <ASDFMRKS> i'll try
[13:59] <oz_> try.
[14:02] Action: oz_ has to think of jimmy cliff "you can get it if you really try"
[14:02] <ASDFMRKS> ok
[14:03] <ASDFMRKS> host:~# apache2
[14:03] <ASDFMRKS> -bash: apache2: command not found
[14:04] <oz_> dpkg -l | grep apache?
[14:04] <ASDFMRKS> nothing
[14:04] <ASDFMRKS> no /target
[14:04] <ASDFMRKS> existing
[14:04] <oz_> what you boot is not what you install, it seems.
[14:05] <ASDFMRKS> i looked up the lease
[14:05] <ASDFMRKS> mac fits, ip should be right
[14:07] <oz_> ASDFMRKS: after install, don't you boot from hdd?
[14:08] <ASDFMRKS> the thing is. we're doing it with kvm and libvirt, i have to edit xml files after installation, otherwise it boots froom network again. thats probably why that's not the "same" machine
[14:21] <ASDFMRKS> i still didn't get it.. i think.. /target is just a directory?
[14:25] <ASDFMRKS> a installed package should be executable from anywhere?
[14:27] <mgoetze>  /target ?
[14:27] <mgoetze> you mean $target ?
[14:29] <ASDFMRKS> isn't it?
[14:29] <edoreld> mgoetze could you give me a hand? I have a script that executes on the client on boot (when it is installing). The script contains the line fcopy "/root/scripts/dhcp/dhcpd.conf" $target/etc/dhcp3. According to the boot log the script executes successfully, but the file doesn't get copied on the client :(
[14:30] <mgoetze> there shouldn't be anything in /root on the installation system
[14:31] <mgoetze> you need to put that file in /srv/fai/config/files/etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf/CLASS
[14:31] <mgoetze> and then write "fcopy /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf" in your script
[14:33] <edoreld> ahhhhhhhhhhh
[14:33] <edoreld> You just broke the bulb in my brain out of illumination!
[14:36] <edoreld> Danke Mann :)
[14:36] <mgoetze> np
[14:39] <oz_> :-)
[14:49] <ASDFMRKS> oz_: should apache only be available after i reboot the faiclient? so the problem is that i can't execute it right after the insall process?
[14:50] <oz_> ASDFMRKS: for what in heaven's name you need apache during the install process?
[14:50] <ASDFMRKS> after the install process i mean :/
[14:51] <ASDFMRKS> the machine does no automativ reboot
[14:52] <oz_> ASDFMRKS: if you need a automatic reboot, add reboot to FAI_FLAPGS
[14:52] <oz_> FAI_FLAGS, even.
[14:55] <ASDFMRKS> where do i have to change them? in /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default ?
[14:57] <oz_> yes
[14:57] <mgoetze> ASDFMRKS: man fai-chboot
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[15:39] <oz_> wohee.
[15:39] <edoreld> I don't know why you say that, but gratz :)
[15:39] <oz_> Ignore "ignored" directories (see "-I" for details). <- what does this sentence mean?
[15:39] <oz_> double negation is prone to cause misunderstandings...
[15:40] <oz_> is the ignoration ignored? or are the ignored files still ignored?
[15:40] Action: oz_ is glad that he just has no ignores
[15:41] <edoreld> I think it means: Ignore that they have been ignored
[15:42] <oz_> edoreld: I think the same...
[15:42] <edoreld> :)
[15:42] <oz_> but I know that one needs clear statements in manuals
[15:42] <edoreld> Could be clearer though...heh
[15:42] <edoreld> Indeed :)
[15:42] <oz_> nada importand. just stubled.
[15:42] <oz_> stumpled about it, even.
[15:43] <oz_> bah. stumbled. I quit. :)
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[15:48] <edoreld> problem solved, it was a kind of a syntax error...ahem ahem
[15:49] <edoreld> Now all seems cool, one last install and chicken awaits me at Kreuzberg...aah that fantastic chicken with pommes....
[15:49] <edoreld> Thanks for all the help ^_^ And cya around :D
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[18:02] <SlowMotion> hi all
[18:03] <SlowMotion> i got a problem in c/c++
[18:03] <SlowMotion> can anybody help me?
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[21:58] <lazyb0y> h01ger: hmm, nee, nix gesehen!
[21:59] <h01ger> lazyb0y, guckstu jetzt! :)
[21:59] <lazyb0y> bin isch identified jetzt.
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