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| 15:57 gcorvala | hi |
| 15:58 gcorvala | 4788 /trunk/bin/make-fai-nfsroot lange 15 months use aptitude for installing fai-nfsroot << I want to know why you have change the $ROOTCMD apt-get -fy install fai-nfsroot to $ROOTCMD aptitude -Rfy install fai-nfsroot << the debootstrap does not contain aptitude :s |
| 15:59 mgoetze | what are you trying to debootstrap? sarge? |
| 16:00 gcorvala | mgoetze, ubuntu intrepid, can i only debootstrap a debian ? |
| 16:01 mgoetze | *shrug* don't know, don't care... |
| 16:02 oz_ | gcorvala: I do not understand your problem. |
| 16:02 gcorvala | oz_, when I do fai-setup, it call the debootstrap script |
| 16:02 gcorvala | and after that, it call a aptitude -Rfy install fai-nfsroot |
| 16:03 gcorvala | but in the bootstrap, no aptitude package, so it send me an error |
| 16:03 gcorvala | I can modify the make-fai-nfsroot to use the apt-get instead of aptitude, but I want to know why fai-developpers have change from apt-get to aptitude |
| 16:04 mgoetze | apt-get is the past, aptitude is the future |
| 16:04 gcorvala | mgoetze, I trust you, but if aptitude is not in the deboostrap :/ |
| 16:05 oz_ | gcorvala: what is FAI_DEBOOTSTRAP in your /etc/fai/make-fai-nfsroot.conf? |
| 16:06 gcorvala | FAI_DEBOOTSTRAP="intrepid file://srv/mirror" |
| 16:06 gcorvala | and the mirror is created with fai-mirror script |
| 16:07 gcorvala | oz_, an idea? |
| 16:08 oz_ | gcorvala: put aptitude in /etc/fai/NFSROOT and try again |
| 16:08 oz_ | if your pnly problem is the missing aptitude |
| 16:08 oz_ | s/pnly/only/ |
| 16:09 gcorvala | oz_, I've already done that, but make-fai-nfsroot call this aptitude before to install packages in NFSROOT |
| 16:09 gcorvala | it call it directly after debootstrap |
| 16:10 gcorvala | I think the problem is that aptitude is not in the deboostrap |
| 16:10 oz_ | gcorvala: does 'find /srv/mirror -type f -name "aptitude*.dep' find any file? |
| Action: oz_ has only limited time for support |
| 16:12 oz_ | gcorvala: you can change FAI_DEBOOTSTRAP_OPTS="--exclude=dhcp-client,info |
| 16:12 oz_ | add '--include=aptitude' or so |
| 16:12 gcorvala | oz_, no file found with find |
| 16:12 gcorvala | ok, i'll try with --include=aptitude |
| 16:13 oz_ | gcorvala: so, that probably is you problem |
| 16:13 oz_ | +r |
| 16:14 gcorvala | ok thx :) |
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| 16:20 smulcahy | hi |
| 16:20 smulcahy | i'm trying to test FAI on an ubuntu 8.10 server |
| 16:21 smulcahy | i tried the fai packages included in ubuntu but they don't seem to be near the latest - 3.2.4+svn4837-0ubuntu2 |
| 16:22 smulcahy | I'm now trying the latest stable ones downloaded from sourceforge |
| 16:22 smulcahy | 3.2.14 |
| 16:22 mgoetze | sourceforge? |
| 16:23 smulcahy | has anyone had success running the FAI quickstart in the FAI docs on ubuntu 8.10 server? |
| 16:23 mgoetze | didn't know fai uses sourceforge at all... |
| 16:23 smulcahy | i'm currently hitting a dependency problem whereby the 3.2.14 packages seems to depend on syslinux-common |
| 16:23 smulcahy | but ubuntu still seems to be using syslinux |
| 16:23 smulcahy | i guess i can rebuild the deb and change the dep to syslinux |
| 16:23 smulcahy | just wondering if theres any easier way |
| 16:24 smulcahy | yeah, sourceforge |
| 16:24 smulcahy | linked from http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ |
| 16:24 smulcahy | so i guess its official |
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| 16:24 smulcahy | i don't want to add the sources to an ubuntu server as i figured there could be some issues like this |
| 16:24 smulcahy | maybe i should install lenny as my fai server even though i want my clients to run ubuntu? |
| 16:25 mgoetze | i can't see that link |
| 16:25 oz_ | yes, one doesn't want ubuntu servers |
| 16:25 oz_ | ;) |
| 16:26 smulcahy | hehehe |
| 16:26 smulcahy | i'm trying to hang out in all camps these days |
| 16:26 smulcahy | well |
| 16:26 smulcahy | except the suse one (yech) ;) |
| 16:26 smulcahy | ok, maybe i'll try a lenny server install so - if it saves me hacking packages |
| 16:27 mgoetze | the other question is, what's wrong with 3.2.4? |
| 16:27 mgoetze | 3.1.8 is still working great on my etch machines.. |
| 16:28 mgoetze | (but yes, use a lenny server. i don't see why anyone would use ubuntu on any server...) |
| 16:31 smulcahy | so 3.2.4 |
| 16:31 smulcahy | when i tried it |
| 16:31 smulcahy | it seemed to have various errors when i tried following the quickstart instructions |
| 16:31 smulcahy | maybe i should try that once more before i nuke from orbit |
| 16:31 smulcahy | as i didn't take note of the errors (but i did burn a few hours working around bits) |
| 16:32 smulcahy | fai looks great so i'm really keen to get it going |
| 16:32 smulcahy | i've done some work with preseeding but its pretty kludgy |
| 16:32 smulcahy | phew, is there a lot of anti-ubuntu sentiment around here? |
| 16:32 mgoetze | hm, well, i personally don't care much about ubuntu, but there are other people here who use it |
| 16:33 mgoetze | so don't worry, you're not completely alone :) |
| 16:33 mgoetze | and yes, fai is great |
| 16:34 smulcahy | hehe |
| 16:34 smulcahy | thanks |
| 16:34 smulcahy | i tend to use both and find both great |
| 16:34 smulcahy | to be fair to ubuntu, their latest server ed looks pretty good |
| 16:35 mgoetze | i just think the ubuntu philosophies and release processes aren't right for servers |
| 16:35 mgoetze | might be good for people who want shiny desktops, i'm quite content with my non-shiny desktop so i haven't bothered :) |
| 16:37 smulcahy | hehe |
| 16:37 smulcahy | i thought the same until i tried ubuntu server ed |
| 16:37 smulcahy | seems less oriented toward the seekers of shininess |
| 16:37 smulcahy | but saying that, i agree, rolling stable servers every 6 months is madness |
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| 16:42 mgoetze | i just prefer "relase when it's ready" to "release when the deadline comes around" |
| 16:47 oz_ | mgoetze: real life can suck. ;) |
| 16:48 mgoetze | real life... that's where i have to deal with RHEL... :( |
| 16:48 smulcahy | hehehe |
| 16:49 smulcahy | i could be worse, it could be SLES |
| 16:49 mgoetze | no kidding |
| 16:49 smulcahy | the worst of both worlds (commercial and os) |
| 16:50 mgoetze | fortunately, we have so few customers with suse/sles, that i don't even know which versions use rug, zypper, or whatever... |
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