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| 00:26 puck | gah. why oh why is my FAI client saying "rpc failed: 2" when I try and build it?? If I boot from the local hard drive and use mount.nfs it works okay. |
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| 09:40 h01ger | Mrfai, i assume you could get a fai upload fixing #504662 into lenny r1 - r1 will have less stricter rules than the following pointreleases and as this is a trivial _and_ important bugfix... |
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| 10:28 mikap | Mrfai: http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/Fai-cd_from_usb_stick => is there any special reason why it must not be fat16? permission stuff? |
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| 11:15 Mrfai | mikap: yep. with fai-cd, the nfsroot is not a comressed image, but is just plain directory structure. There we need symlinks and such. Therefore it can't be fat16 |
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| 11:43 mikap | Mrfai: ah ok, and making symlinks just a copy of the symlinked file wouldn't work? :) |
| 12:09 Mrfai | I though the nfsroot would also need the setuid flag, but since everything is exectued by root, maybe a vfat will also work |
| 12:10 Mrfai | what about file names? the nfroot does not contain only 8.3 names |
| 12:11 Mrfai | For e.g.: a driectroy ld.so.conf.d/ |
| 12:27 Mrfai | What about devices? I got: Cannot mknod: Operation not permitted |
| 12:28 Mrfai | Seems like fat32 does not know char or block devices |
| 12:30 h01ger | ah, hi luk_work - didnt see you were already here :) |
| 12:30 h01ger | luk_work (and mrfai), so what do you say to what i said at 9:40 utc? |
| 12:31 oz_ | hm. should be possible to use a stick with fat32 also... |
| 12:31 oz_ | if one puts the root-fs as a tgz on it, and dumps this into the ramdisk |
| 12:40 Mrfai | h01ger: The fix is ok, I could include it. Is there a deadline for 5.0r1 fixes? |
| 12:41 h01ger | asap? |
| 12:41 h01ger | i'm sure you have a week at least |
| 13:12 luk_work | right, please do also send a mail |
| 13:13 Mrfai | h01ger: do you like to create the lenny branch in our svn and upload the package including the fix? |
| 13:14 Mrfai | I'm not sure if I have time, since karneval is comming soon |
| 13:15 h01ger | hehe |
| 13:15 h01ger | yes, can do |
| 13:21 Mrfai | h01ger: super |
| 13:24 h01ger | Mrfai, (luk_work): i'll use 3.1.17~lenny+1 as version number? (which is lower than 3.1.17) |
| 13:25 Mrfai | no I think it should be 3.2.16~lenny1 |
| 13:26 luk_work | hmm, we really should fix the upload propagation thing |
| 13:26 Mrfai | since is 3.2.16 plus a patch |
| 13:26 luk_work | currently we need newer versions in unstable and testing before we can consider anything for stable |
| 13:26 luk_work | on all arches btw |
| 13:26 h01ger | fai is arch all |
| 13:26 luk_work | 3.2.16 is in stable |
| 13:26 luk_work | h01ger: ok, that makes it easier for fai |
| 13:27 Mrfai | but we still have nothing newer that 3.2.16 in testing or unstable |
| 13:27 luk_work | so having 3.2.17 in unstable (and migrated to testing) is the first step |
| 13:27 luk_work | 3.2.17~lenny1 can be uploaded to proposed=updates |
| 13:27 h01ger | $ dpkg --compare-versions 3.2.16~lenny1 gt 3.2.16 && echo true |
| 13:27 h01ger | $ rmadison fai |
| 13:28 h01ger | bah |
| 13:28 h01ger | s/rmadison fai// |
| 13:28 h01ger | Mrfai, it needs to be 3.2.17~foo |
| 13:28 h01ger | though: |
| 13:28 h01ger | $ dpkg --compare-versions 3.2.16-lenny1 gt 3.2.16 && echo true |
| 13:28 h01ger | true |
| 13:29 h01ger | if the release team is fine with such a number, we could go for 3.2.16-lenny1 |
| 13:29 h01ger | luk_work, ^ |
| 13:30 luk_work | the release team is happy with any version number that is larger than the stable one and smaller (or equal) than the testing one unless it's insulting |
| 13:31 luk_work | the equal is only possible with propagation, so you shouldn't try to do that manually as it won't work |
| Action: h01ger nods |
| 13:35 FBI | fai: 3 holger committed revision 5266 to 7 fai: new branch for updates in lenny |
| 13:36 Mrfai | h01ger: but 3.2.17 for unstable/testing will not be made in the next few weeks. |
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| 13:39 h01ger | Mrfai, than this can simply become 3.2.17? |
| 13:40 FBI | fai: 3 holger committed revision 5267 to 7 fai: fai (3.2.16-lenny1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low |
| 13:40 FBI | fai: * Added myself to uploads to avoid NMU warnings. |
| 13:40 FBI | fai: * Fix typo in fai-do-scripts. (Closes: #504662) |
| 13:43 FBI | fai: 3 holger committed revision 5268 to 7 fai: Fix typo in fai-do-scripts, thanks to Andrew Ruthven for reporting this. |
| 13:43 FBI | fai: (Closes: #504662) |
| 13:44 FBI | fai: 3 holger committed revision 5269 to 7 fai: Thank Andrew :-) |
| 13:44 FBI | fai: (and for those watching at home, this is coordinated with Mrfai on IRC :) |
| 13:44 h01ger | Mrfai, mikap: are you aware of any other trival, important, brown paper bugs which should be fixed in lenny? |
| 13:55 Mrfai | h01ger: 494431, #496072, but these are not important fixes, only small patches. |
| 13:55 mikap | h01ger: nope, not yet :) |
| 13:58 FBI | fai: 3 holger committed revision 5270 to 7 fai: fix typo |
| 14:03 h01ger | 494431 looks somewhat worthwhile |
| 14:03 h01ger | for 496072 i dont see a (working) patch |
| 14:06 Mrfai | yep there was a discussion about a patch which did not work. So just ignore this bug |
| 14:08 FBI | fai: 3 lange committed revision 5271 to 7 fai: ftar, fcopy: add info about the other tool |
| 14:17 FBI | fai: 3 holger committed revision 5272 to 7 fai: * fai-mirror: honor $debug and $qflag environment variables, thanks to |
| 14:17 FBI | fai: Michael Tautschnig. (Closes: #494431) |
| 14:18 h01ger | (that commit was for trunk and lenny :) |
| 14:19 h01ger | (and the change is ok for lenny (discussed with SRM)) |
| 14:29 h01ger | #515139 should also be fixed in lenny, IMO. trivial and quite important :) |
| 14:30 h01ger | luk_work, Mrfai: ^ |
| 14:33 Mrfai | h01ger: please do not fix #515139 in lenny. It would add a new variable to a config file. |
| Action: h01ger shrugs but ok |
| 14:34 h01ger | Mrfai, please fix it in trunk then :) |
| 14:34 h01ger | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=25;filename=bugfix-464541;att=1;bug=464541 also is trivial |
| 14:35 Mrfai | h01ger: I will fix it later, because there may be other ways to fix it. But currently I have not that much time for this |
| Action: h01ger nods |
| 14:36 h01ger | 506459 is another trivial-documentation-fix but nice one. ("add git-core to NFSROOT depends in simple/examples) |
| 14:41 h01ger | tokkee, do you by chance still have the patch you promised in #506463? (and do you know if the bug is still there?) |
| 14:42 Mrfai | 506459 no. This would also change a config file in /etc |
| 14:42 h01ger | huh? |
| 14:43 h01ger | just in simple/examples, ah, no. right. |
| Action: Mrfai wonders why now it's easier to get fixes into the next release (5.0r1) than during the free period. |
| 14:44 h01ger | its not easier |
| 14:45 h01ger | its less strict than for normal pointreleases, as some useful fixes where not accepted at the end of the freeze, to be able to release |
| 14:46 h01ger | Mrfai, i really dont see a problem which changing /etc/fai/NFSROOT but if you dont want, fine with me. the fix is simple enough :) |
| 14:47 h01ger | #504801 - super simple and safe |
| 14:47 Mrfai | IMO changing files in /etc is not good for a point release. Even if the change is minimal. |
| 14:48 h01ger | sigf00d |
| 14:50 Mrfai | h01ger: 504801, seems to be simple. But what if $FAI_CONFIG_SRC is not defined at all? Please check what happens in the code then. |
| 14:50 h01ger | its not added then |
| 14:51 h01ger | imo sane |
| 14:53 Mrfai | no, it must be added if FAI_CONFIG_SRC is not defined, since then NFS is the default (see comment in fai.conf) |
| 15:23 stockholm | how can i keep softupdates from running an apt-get clean (removing downloaded packages)? |
| 15:23 stockholm | we would like to keep those around |
| 15:24 stockholm | eartoast: ? |
| 15:26 h01ger | stockholm, grep for "apt-cache clean" in the code? |
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| 15:41 stockholm | ho |
| 15:42 stockholm | h01ger: it could be apt-get or aptitude, not apt-cache, could it? |
| 15:43 h01ger | jo |
| 16:16 stockholm | Mrfai: gibt es einen grund warum apt-get clean (aka clean-internal) is run every time packages are downloaded and installed? |
| 16:16 stockholm | Mrfai: were there inconcistancies otherwise? |
| 16:16 h01ger | /var might run out of space |
| 16:16 Mrfai | The reason is disk space. |
| 16:17 stockholm | nothing else? |
| 16:17 h01ger | think 1992 and 50mb harddrives :) |
| 16:17 stockholm | sure |
| 16:17 stockholm | i understnad that part. |
| 16:17 stockholm | Mrfai: can i simply disable clean-internal? |
| Action: h01ger would like to see a wishlist bug with patch introducing an option not to clean |
| 16:18 h01ger | i seem to recall i once wanted that feature too |
| 16:19 Mrfai | stockholm: you can do that |
| 16:20 stockholm | Mrfai: write a patch? |
| 16:20 stockholm | very well possible. do you have preferences? |
| 16:21 stockholm | Mrfai: i am thinking some option in the fai configfile |
| 16:26 Mrfai | I would add a variable that will be defined in class/*.var. I try to keep the number of vairables low in /etc/fai |
| 16:34 stockholm | or that, yes |
| 16:37 tokkee | h01ger: Yep ... see my reply to the bug report in a minute ;-) |
| 16:39 h01ger | :) |
| 16:39 h01ger | oh, 2min ago ;) |
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| 17:11 h01ger | tokkee, kmail does that (check for attachments and warns) - was a bit scary the first time, but also immediatly nice :) |
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