[00:19] siggg (~jean@tra78-5-88-172-128-32.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [00:26] gah. why oh why is my FAI client saying "rpc failed: 2" when I try and build it?? If I boot from the local hard drive and use mount.nfs it works okay. [02:11] mikap_ (~mika@mail.michael-prokop.at) joined #fai. [02:12] thpo (~thpo@dotrc.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [02:12] thpo (~thpo@dotrc.de) joined #fai. [02:13] mikap (~mika@mail.michael-prokop.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [02:13] Nick change: mikap_ -> mikap [02:55] fxcp_ (~ctp@brsg-d9beff09.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #fai. [03:02] fxcp (~ctp@brsg-d9beead7.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [03:14] fxcp__ (~ctp@brsg-d9bee078.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #fai. 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[10:28] Mrfai: http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/Fai-cd_from_usb_stick => is there any special reason why it must not be fat16? permission stuff? [10:30] fai-guy (~fai-guy@p4FC21B2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [10:30] luk_work (~luk@luk.netop.oftc.net) joined #fai. [10:53] siggg (~jean@tra78-1-87-88-161-80.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:15] mikap: yep. with fai-cd, the nfsroot is not a comressed image, but is just plain directory structure. There we need symlinks and such. Therefore it can't be fat16 [11:17] siggg (~jean@tra78-1-87-88-161-80.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined #fai. [11:43] Mrfai: ah ok, and making symlinks just a copy of the symlinked file wouldn't work? :) [12:09] I though the nfsroot would also need the setuid flag, but since everything is exectued by root, maybe a vfat will also work [12:10] what about file names? the nfroot does not contain only 8.3 names [12:11] For e.g.: a driectroy ld.so.conf.d/ [12:27] What about devices? I got: Cannot mknod: Operation not permitted [12:28] Seems like fat32 does not know char or block devices [12:30] ah, hi luk_work - didnt see you were already here :) [12:30] luk_work (and mrfai), so what do you say to what i said at 9:40 utc? [12:31] hm. should be possible to use a stick with fat32 also... [12:31] if one puts the root-fs as a tgz on it, and dumps this into the ramdisk [12:40] h01ger: The fix is ok, I could include it. Is there a deadline for 5.0r1 fixes? [12:41] asap? [12:41] i'm sure you have a week at least [13:12] right, please do also send a mail [13:13] h01ger: do you like to create the lenny branch in our svn and upload the package including the fix? [13:14] I'm not sure if I have time, since karneval is comming soon [13:15] hehe [13:15] yes, can do [13:21] h01ger: super [13:24] Mrfai, (luk_work): i'll use 3.1.17~lenny+1 as version number? (which is lower than 3.1.17) [13:25] no I think it should be 3.2.16~lenny1 [13:26] hmm, we really should fix the upload propagation thing [13:26] since is 3.2.16 plus a patch [13:26] currently we need newer versions in unstable and testing before we can consider anything for stable [13:26] on all arches btw [13:26] fai is arch all [13:26] 3.2.16 is in stable [13:26] h01ger: ok, that makes it easier for fai [13:27] but we still have nothing newer that 3.2.16 in testing or unstable [13:27] so having 3.2.17 in unstable (and migrated to testing) is the first step [13:27] 3.2.17~lenny1 can be uploaded to proposed=updates [13:27] $ dpkg --compare-versions 3.2.16~lenny1 gt 3.2.16 && echo true [13:27] $ rmadison fai [13:28] bah [13:28] s/rmadison fai// [13:28] Mrfai, it needs to be 3.2.17~foo [13:28] though: [13:28] $ dpkg --compare-versions 3.2.16-lenny1 gt 3.2.16 && echo true [13:28] true [13:29] if the release team is fine with such a number, we could go for 3.2.16-lenny1 [13:29] luk_work, ^ [13:30] the release team is happy with any version number that is larger than the stable one and smaller (or equal) than the testing one unless it's insulting [13:31] the equal is only possible with propagation, so you shouldn't try to do that manually as it won't work [13:32] Action: h01ger nods [13:35] fai: 3 holger committed revision 5266 to 7 fai: new branch for updates in lenny [13:36] h01ger: but 3.2.17 for unstable/testing will not be made in the next few weeks. [13:39] jinkusu (~jinx@fw1.damballa.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [13:39] Mrfai, than this can simply become 3.2.17? [13:40] fai: 3 holger committed revision 5267 to 7 fai: fai (3.2.16-lenny1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low [13:40] fai: * Added myself to uploads to avoid NMU warnings. [13:40] fai: * Fix typo in fai-do-scripts. (Closes: #504662) [13:43] fai: 3 holger committed revision 5268 to 7 fai: Fix typo in fai-do-scripts, thanks to Andrew Ruthven for reporting this. [13:43] fai: (Closes: #504662) [13:44] fai: 3 holger committed revision 5269 to 7 fai: Thank Andrew :-) [13:44] fai: (and for those watching at home, this is coordinated with Mrfai on IRC :) [13:44] Mrfai, mikap: are you aware of any other trival, important, brown paper bugs which should be fixed in lenny? [13:55] h01ger: 494431, #496072, but these are not important fixes, only small patches. [13:55] h01ger: nope, not yet :) [13:58] fai: 3 holger committed revision 5270 to 7 fai: fix typo [14:03] 494431 looks somewhat worthwhile [14:03] for 496072 i dont see a (working) patch [14:06] yep there was a discussion about a patch which did not work. So just ignore this bug [14:08] fai: 3 lange committed revision 5271 to 7 fai: ftar, fcopy: add info about the other tool [14:17] fai: 3 holger committed revision 5272 to 7 fai: * fai-mirror: honor $debug and $qflag environment variables, thanks to [14:17] fai: Michael Tautschnig. (Closes: #494431) [14:18] (that commit was for trunk and lenny :) [14:19] (and the change is ok for lenny (discussed with SRM)) [14:29] #515139 should also be fixed in lenny, IMO. trivial and quite important :) [14:30] luk_work, Mrfai: ^ [14:33] h01ger: please do not fix #515139 in lenny. It would add a new variable to a config file. [14:33] Action: h01ger shrugs but ok [14:34] Mrfai, please fix it in trunk then :) [14:34] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=25;filename=bugfix-464541;att=1;bug=464541 also is trivial [14:35] h01ger: I will fix it later, because there may be other ways to fix it. But currently I have not that much time for this [14:35] Action: h01ger nods [14:36] 506459 is another trivial-documentation-fix but nice one. ("add git-core to NFSROOT depends in simple/examples) [14:41] tokkee, do you by chance still have the patch you promised in #506463? (and do you know if the bug is still there?) [14:42] 506459 no. This would also change a config file in /etc [14:42] huh? [14:43] just in simple/examples, ah, no. right. [14:44] Action: Mrfai wonders why now it's easier to get fixes into the next release (5.0r1) than during the free period. [14:44] its not easier [14:45] its less strict than for normal pointreleases, as some useful fixes where not accepted at the end of the freeze, to be able to release [14:46] Mrfai, i really dont see a problem which changing /etc/fai/NFSROOT but if you dont want, fine with me. the fix is simple enough :) [14:47] #504801 - super simple and safe [14:47] IMO changing files in /etc is not good for a point release. Even if the change is minimal. [14:48] sigf00d [14:50] h01ger: 504801, seems to be simple. But what if $FAI_CONFIG_SRC is not defined at all? Please check what happens in the code then. [14:50] its not added then [14:51] imo sane [14:53] no, it must be added if FAI_CONFIG_SRC is not defined, since then NFS is the default (see comment in fai.conf) [15:23] how can i keep softupdates from running an apt-get clean (removing downloaded packages)? [15:23] we would like to keep those around [15:24] eartoast: ? [15:26] stockholm, grep for "apt-cache clean" in the code? 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I try to keep the number of vairables low in /etc/fai [16:34] or that, yes [16:37] h01ger: Yep ... see my reply to the bug report in a minute ;-) [16:39] :) [16:39] oh, 2min ago ;) [17:06] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:11] tokkee, kmail does that (check for attachments and warns) - was a bit scary the first time, but also immediatly nice :) [17:12] fai-guy_ (~fai-guy@p4FC2132D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:13] siggg (~jean@tra78-1-87-88-161-80.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [18:54] siggg (~jean@tra78-5-88-172-128-32.fbx.proxad.net) joined #fai. [19:58] torkel (torkel@ip64.degernas.se) joined #fai. [20:33] siggg (~jean@tra78-5-88-172-128-32.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:34] siggg (~jean@tra78-5-88-172-128-32.fbx.proxad.net) joined #fai. [22:24] ErKa (keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [00:00] --- Wed Feb 18 2009