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[08:47] siggg (~jean@tra78-1-87-88-161-80.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [09:14] siggg (~jean@tra78-1-87-88-161-80.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined #fai. [09:15] siggg (~jean@tra78-1-87-88-161-80.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: [09:17] siggg (~jean@tra78-1-87-88-161-80.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined #fai. [09:25] ErKa (~keryell@APuteaux-154-1-6-51.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #fai. [09:32] fai-guy (~fai-guy@p4FC21878.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #fai. [09:51] fxcp (~ctp@brsg-d9befc74.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #fai. [10:10] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:10] Mrfai (~lange@suenner.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [10:57] siggg (~jean@tra78-1-87-88-161-80.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:59] siggg (~jean@tra78-1-87-88-161-80.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined #fai. [11:28] Joelio (~joel@office-112.zen.co.uk) joined #fai. [11:28] Hi guys, does anyone run FAI over a large network? If so how do they get round the problem where DHCP isn't routed? With rules to pass through the DHCP requests or DHCP relays? [11:30] we use dhcp relays, IIRC [11:50] siggg (~jean@tra78-1-87-88-161-80.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [11:56] Ok, cool.. it makes the large scale implementation a little more involved, but I can see it being better in the long term. [11:57] When using DHCP relays, how does the inter DHCP server -> relay transport work? Is it just DHCP or some kind of tunnel? [12:00] mettler (~mettler@dsl-62-220-14-162.berlikomm.net) joined #fai. [12:02] siggg (~jean@91-172-140-128.rev.libertysurf.net) joined #fai. [12:02] it jsut works i have not looked at the actualy protocol. i belive it just forward it, but with the real dhcp server as destination ip instead of the dhcp broadcast [12:29] Joelio: To be honest, I don't know. We just tell the networking folks, "dhcp for this network should go to this IP over here" [12:30] AFAIK you can configure your route to forward DHCP request, or you can use an external program for this. in debian it's called dhcp3-relay [12:30] fxcp (~ctp@brsg-d9befc74.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [12:32] It makes sense to do this in the netwokring equipment too, because then it might also filter out the dhcp talk so that noone can setup a rogue dhcp server. at least that's how ours work. [13:04] Nick change: Guest956 -> oz [13:04] Nick change: oz -> oz_ [13:18] ErKa (~keryell@APuteaux-154-1-6-51.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [13:35] Cheers Mrfai, I'd already done some investigation with dhcp3-relay and it looks the way to go. I think you can do DHCP over ipsec, which looks interesting [13:54] fxcp (~ctp@brsg-d9befc74.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #fai. [14:01] dhcp-relays picks up the broadcast, and then unicasts it to the dhcp-server [14:02] and adds some options like agent-id and so on. [14:04] oz_ (~oz@anubis.coresystems.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [14:06] oz_ (~oz@anubis.coresystems.de) joined #fai. [14:21] i am using a custom kernel, when FAI_FLAGS=reboot is set, the machine reboots correctly, but when i manually do "reboot/faireboot/init 6 ..or all of them i a row" it gets stuck ;( [14:22] maybe its because of my kernel's apm/acpi options?! -but how does fai reboot then? [14:22] mettler: reboot -f works [14:22] but the rest does not work, due to the missing runlevel scripts. [14:23] ^^ rebooted, thx man! [15:55] glance: I take it the unicast is routable? [15:57] jupp. [15:57] its a unicast from the relay to the configured dhcp-server. [15:58] cool, seems like all the pieces of the automated infrastructure are fallimng together nicely :) [15:58] ( now its time for the mad-doctor-laught.wav ) [16:17] siggg (~jean@91-172-140-128.rev.libertysurf.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [16:27] gn8 [16:27] mettler (~mettler@dsl-62-220-14-162.berlikomm.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:37] fai-guy (~fai-guy@p4FC21878.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:03] Mrfai (~lange@suenner.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:05] siggg (~jean@tra78-5-88-172-128-32.fbx.proxad.net) joined #fai. [17:30] William (~William@189.164.100.75) joined #fai. [17:55] Joelio (~joel@office-112.zen.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:59] ErKa (~keryell@APuteaux-154-1-6-51.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #fai. 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