| 00:03 cilkay | Frustrating... first, I had a clean install. I ran it again, that time, no boot loader was installed so couldn't boot. Two installations later, GRUB is installed but doesn't seem to be configured because I just see a grub prompt. |
| 00:04 cilkay | It's like those games where you have to pick up the toy with a floppy claw. It's theoretically possible but... |
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| 06:17 torkel | is it yet possible to remove an already defined class? |
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| 09:02 yopyop | is there a limit of package i could put in a class in package_config ? |
| 09:02 yopyop | number limit |
| 09:11 yopyop | got my answer, fai's doing multi apt-get install command |
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| 13:52 stockholm | torkel: did you upgrade firmware on your ibm servers? |
| 13:53 stockholm | torkel: we have problems with ssh:ing to the rsa cards and upgrading the rsa firmware seems to require a daemon (and the ibmasu kernel module) |
| 13:54 stockholm | torkel: where do i get the daemon? |
| 13:58 stockholm | actually all communication with the rsa card using asu64 complains about a communication error. setting CMOS or BMC stuff works though |
| 14:04 stockholm | Mrfai: wie wird die /etc/fstab erzeugt? macht setup-storage das selbst? ich möchte da gerne disks und mountpoints hinzufügen |
| 14:05 stockholm | kann ich sachen zur /tmp/fai/fstab hinzufügen? |
| 14:06 stockholm | werden die hinternoch benutzt? |
| 14:15 Mrfai | stockholm: du kannst mit ainsl Zeilen hinzufuegen. Du must nur mal schauen, was diese fstab nach /target kopiert wird. |
| 14:21 stockholm | Mrfai: meinst du "OB diese fstab nach /target kopiert wird."?? |
| 14:23 stockholm | wird sie das nicht immer? |
| 14:23 stockholm | oder WANN wird sie nach target kopiert? dann kann ich auch direkt an der in /target rumpfuschen. |
| 14:24 stockholm | ... dananch |
| 14:44 Mrfai | wann |
| 14:46 stockholm | ich dachte das wüsstest du so |
| 14:48 Mrfai | task_extrbase() kopiert die fstab |
| 14:50 stockholm | cool, danke |
| 14:52 allee | Mrfai: I have a look at it (I will need RAID/LVM support soon) But for Intrepid (Okt) it's too late AFAIU: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseSchedule |
| 14:53 Mrfai | allee: ne, siretart sagte mir es haette eine ausnahme schon bekommen, d.h man koennte noch sehr kurzfristig ein neues Paket in Ubuntu bringen. |
| 14:54 Mrfai | Aber Frage ist, wer das dann macht. Ich habe siretart hier laenger nicht mehr gesehen |
| 14:58 allee | Mrfai: ist wahrscheinlich so busy wie ich :( Ich 'muss' es demnaechst machen. Ich versuchs vorzuziehen, aber versprechen kann ich leider nichts |
| 15:06 Mrfai | ich habe schon mehrfach hier aufgerufen, die Leute sollen sich melden wenn sie das neue FAI unter Ubuntu einsetzen um so zu helfen das es in 8.10 reinkommt. Was koennte man noch machen um euch zu helfen, damit ihr wenig Arbeit damit habt? |
| 15:12 Mrfai | torkel: can you help to bring fai 3.2.11 into Ubuntu 8.10? I think it would be a shame if only 3.2.4 will be in there. |
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| 17:15 torkel | stockholm: we have only been doing it over ssh/telnet |
| 17:18 rgsteele||work | allee: FWIW, I adjusted the Lenny packages to work with Hardy, LVM and RAID support included (even having root partition on LVM) |
| 17:18 rgsteele||work | But I haven't repackaged them for Ubuntu. |
| 17:25 torkel | stockholm: though I think you should not need any daemon, only the kernel module |
| 17:26 torkel | stockholm: asu64 complains even with the kernel module installed? |
| 17:26 allee | rgsteele||work: where is the lenny/hardy diff? ;) |
| 17:28 rgsteele||work | allee: Heh, well I didn't completely change everything. Just the stuff I needed to make it work :) Mostly it's just changing the package names, except for the GRUB stuff (since Ubuntu is using ucf now for that) |
| 17:36 torkel | I'm afraid I don't have much time to offer to help to get a newer FAI into Intrepid :-( |
| 17:41 torkel | stockholm: found the daemon http://www-304.ibm.com/systems/support/supportsite.wss/docdisplay?lndocid=MIGR-5071676&brandind=5000008 |
| 17:48 stockholm | torkel: yes, even if the kernel module is installed asu64 compains |
| 17:48 stockholm | torkel: and how do you run it on debian? |
| 17:51 torkel | stockholm: don't know. We haven't tried it... |
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| 17:52 stockholm | now i hear from the developer of the kernel module that i dont need the deamon. that is only necessary for RAS I, not II |
| 17:53 stockholm | but he did not tell me what the error means |
| 17:59 torkel | stockholm: so i wasn't completely wrong :-) |
| 18:12 stockholm | i misread the mail the first time. |
| 18:12 stockholm | torkel: he writes that the KERNEL MODULE is not needed for the rsa II card. |
| 18:12 stockholm | he did not mention the daemon. |
| 18:13 stockholm | torkel: you guys never used the kernel daemon? |
| 18:14 torkel | stockholm: no, as we just have 7 machines with RSA II cards, it was easier and faster to use the webinterface to set them up, than fiddle with the kernel module |
| 18:15 stockholm | or the daemon :-) |
| 18:15 torkel | yeah |
| 18:15 stockholm | ok, thanks :-) |
| 18:16 torkel | stockholm: does he mean that you need the daemon but not the module or what? |
| 18:17 torkel | or neither of them? |
| 18:18 stockholm | he did not mention the daemon |
| 18:19 stockholm | he just said the module was not needed |
| 18:19 stockholm | which is funny in itself because i sent them a two page mail with all sorts of debug output and questions and he just said i did not need the module |
| 18:21 torkel | stockholm: hm, looks like it is an USB device |
| 18:22 torkel | stockholm: lsusb -v -d 04b3:4001 |
| 18:28 stockholm | right, it is. |
| 18:40 cilkay | Speaking of FAI and Ubuntu, I noticed that the demohost installation, when it works, creates a system that has a root account, which is not normal Ubuntu. I still don't understand how all the pieces of FAI fit so I'm not sure how to change that. I find the docs are a bit disjointed (and I'm willing to contribute better ones). |
| 18:42 cilkay | Is there a way to take an existing K/Ubuntu installation and tell FAI "I want you to install exactly this on a bunch of systems."? |
| 18:42 cilkay | ... complete with the same version of the kernel, etc. |
| 18:43 cilkay | I'm using the real-time kernel from UbuntuStudio because these machines will be used in a multimedia lab at the school. |
| 18:44 cilkay | ... so I'd rather not have a generic kernel. |
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| 19:38 cilkay | Is there a way to take an existing K/Ubuntu installation and tell FAI "I want you to install exactly this on a bunch of systems."? |
| 19:40 rgsteele||work | cilkay: I'm actually in the middle of writing scripts to do that now. |
| 19:41 rgsteele||work | For Ubuntu, that is. |
| 19:41 rgsteele||work | But, they won't be released for a couple of weeks probably. |
| 19:41 cilkay | Cool, though that doesn't help my immediate need. |
| 19:41 cilkay | I'm not sure that FAI is really necessary in my environment. |
| 19:42 rgsteele||work | cilkay: Time to exercise your Perl-fu then, 'cause such a methodology does not exist at the moment. |
| 19:42 cilkay | I can see it being useful for clusters but in my environment, a preseed installation would probably work. |
| 19:42 rgsteele||work | cilkay: The Ubuntu installer support preseeding if that's all you want. |
| 19:42 cilkay | I'm much more adept at Python than Perl. |
| 19:42 cilkay | I know. |
| 19:43 cilkay | I find preseeding more complex than kickstart. |
| 19:43 rgsteele||work | cilkay: Ubuntu has a simplified version of kickstart it can use, IIRC. And I believe it supports using kickstart files. |
| 19:44 cilkay | Yes, it does but it apparently has limitations. |
| 19:44 cilkay | I'm not sure what they are though. |
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| 19:57 cilkay | How would I add an initial user in FAI other than root? I like the Ubuntu approach of not enabling the root user and adding the initial user to sudoers. |
| 20:28 torkel | adduser? |
| 20:38 cilkay | torkel: That makes sense, except I haven't the foggiest of where I'm supposed to do that. I don't yet understand how all the pieces of FAI fit. |
| 20:40 torkel | cilkay: probably somewhere in scripts/... check out the examples to get an idea of how fai is supposed to be working |
| 20:42 cilkay | Thanks. I'm doing (yet another) PXE test installation right now so I'll try that later. |
| 20:42 cilkay | This one looks promising. |
| 20:42 cilkay | It'll have a root pw but I can take care of that later. |
| 20:43 cilkay | I have to figure out how to get FAI to take advantage of the local packages I have in apt-cacher. |
| 20:44 cilkay | Even better would be to get apt-proxy going but I gave up on that after fiddling with it for a few hours. |
| 20:50 torkel | cilkay: you can generate a random password with pwgen or something similiar, but I really don't see the point |
| 20:51 cilkay | I just replaced the default root password of "fai" with one that I generated using "mkpasswd". |
| 20:51 torkel | just pre create a really-long-and-obscure password |
| 20:51 cilkay | That's what I did for the root password. I haven't added any users yet. |
| 20:52 cilkay | The plan is to have the clients authenticate against OpenLDAP anyway. |
| 20:53 torkel | then you shouldn't need to add any users in FAI? |
| 20:55 cilkay | Until I have the OpenLDAP auth working, I'll have add one user. root is fine for now. |
| 20:59 cilkay | Where does FAI store all the packages that it downloaded from an apt repo? |
| 21:00 cilkay | i.e., during a client installation |
| 21:03 cilkay | Yet another broken installation. All I get is a GRUB prompt. It seems GRUB isn't configured properly. |
| 21:12 cilkay | Booting from a live CD to investigate. |
| 21:16 cilkay | The client couldn't boot because nothing was installed on the hard disk. |
| 21:16 cilkay | It just went through the motions of installing. |
| 21:17 cilkay | "It" being FAI. |
| 21:17 cilkay | I saw the packages being downloaded and supposedly installed on the client. |
| 21:17 cilkay | Wonder what it was doing. |
| 21:17 cilkay | I don't have any log /tmp/fai, as the installer claimed I should have. |
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