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[09:26] siggg (~jean@dyn-83-156-145-242.ppp.tiscali.fr) joined #fai. [09:35] allee (~ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:39] allee (~ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de) joined #fai. [10:05] siggg (~jean@dyn-83-156-145-242.ppp.tiscali.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [10:38] moin [11:13] mahlzeit! [11:14] lazyb0y: ich habe cesar schon geschrieben und die fragen weitergeleitet. [11:14] lazyb0y: und puffer ist gut [11:14] stockholm: danke - du bist super! [11:14] :-) [11:14] danke :-) [11:15] hmm, diese lenny sachen sind ja scheinbar noch sehr unrund... [11:16] liegt wohl alles an kernel-geschichten, aber solange nicht der endgltige 2.6.25er drin ist, hilft testen wohl auch nicht viel - oder? [11:19] teste in sid [11:35] lazyb0y, stockholm: http://wiki.debian.org/FAI/Extremadura2008 speaks about august or october, while the schedule says september... [11:36] h01ger: can you update the wiki? [11:36] is the pope catholic? [11:40] h01ger: very much so. [11:40] i am not sure if he is christian, though [11:40] any more questions? :-) [11:41] none yet [11:43] stockholm, now after reading lazyb0ys mail i understand what you asked for [11:43] Action: h01ger suggests to remove every name from the list and ask people to readd themselves [11:43] lazyb0y, ^ [11:49] h01ger: I see no point in this and will not do it. [11:50] I want to be sure to have a means of reaching everybody who put his name on the list. [11:51] and the page http://wiki.debian.org/FAI/Extremadura2008 does not have the word october in it, and august only in thomas "not before august" statement [11:52] ah, i see, since you changed it :) thanks [11:55] einmal mit profis arbeiten.. [11:59] ? [12:00] lol! [12:01] lyric (~leehartle@209.182.184.2) joined #fai. [13:43] hi, said alread that I wrote a templating addition to FAI. with this it is possible to define configuration values centrally and use them in /hooks /scripts and /files. I uploaded it to http://users.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~ripka_o/fai-replace. you can read some example usage in the pod:: perldoc fai-replace. Feedback is appreciated. [13:49] mludi42: please put this into the fai wiki, so we have all those things in one place [13:49] I ask about this, the anwser was to write an email with the wiki article to some address that was not mentioned. [13:50] I don't understand. [13:50] do you need an account for the wiki? [13:50] exactly [13:51] Can you give me your full name and email address, then I can create you an account right now [13:51] We prefer the full name for wiki accounts [14:03] mludi42: wow, you wrote an own templateing engine implementation?! [14:04] you might want to look at this: http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/FaiTemplates [14:04] i look at this, but it was not what i wanted [14:04] ok [14:05] it is not very sophisticated, i just wanted to be able to reaplace strings using the class concept of fai in scripts,hooks,files and on the server it self to have a central configuration. [14:05] (I did never test this, either - just thought, "there are many template engines already") [14:05] sound sophisticated :) [14:11] I usually just to some perl -pi -e '/PLACEHOLDER/myvar/G' /path/to/file things in normal scripts, but the idea to have central place where it's saved whcih placeholder has to be filled with what for which class is interesting [14:15] mludi42: i created a templates-from-env script, which parses files and substitutes ##blah## by the contents of the $blah environment variable [14:15] initially I put all my variables in the *var files, this has some adavantage of the FaiTemplates because it allows to reuse already defined variables. But it was a mess. So I decided I want to be able to reuse already defined variables and have a class based concept. [14:16] this i use in the individual preinst scripts called by fcopy [14:18] I see there are some solutions and also that this is a common problem. What I would like is to get the best of them and include the result as a feature in FAI. [14:21] I recently saw another Template engine solution for FAI, which may be based on the version in the wiki. I have contact to the autor and will try that this will go into public domain. [14:26] I guess, at least for parsing and filling in data, an existing solution could be used (Text::Template/Mason/template toolkit) [14:27] so only for defining _which_ data, fai-specific code must be written [14:27] could probable save quite some development and maintenance time... [14:39] maybe one could integrate this in fcopy? [14:53] the thing is I do not only want to be able to use it for files but also for hooks and scripts. [14:57] ah, ok [15:22] Mrfai (~lange@suenner.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:57] fai-guy (~fai-guy@p4FC2344D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:58] siggg (~jean@dyn-83-156-145-242.ppp.tiscali.fr) joined #fai. 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