[00:00] hmm. fai uses grub on the CDs. you might be able to make a hardy FAI install that will work. [00:01] er. sorry, i'm a fai-cd user. i forget that others don't do that. :) [01:24] juri_: yeah i booted through PXE [01:24] the kernel stopped half way through loading, it's not unexpected [02:44] istaz_ (~olivier@70.17-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined #fai. [02:44] istaz (~olivier@27.236-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:36] siggg (~jean@tra78-5-88-172-128-32.fbx.proxad.net) joined #fai. [08:18] allee_ (~ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de) joined #fai. [08:22] allee_ (~ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:26] allee (~ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de) joined #fai. [09:03] allee (~ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [09:14] Mrfai (~lange@suenner.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [09:33] Mrfai: ok. as you do not seem to fix the copyright issues, I will file them as "serious" bugs tomorrow. [09:39] eartoast_: I ask you again to wait, and please let us discuss this in a real life meeting, for example during the FAI developers workshop. [09:40] Mrfai: this is release critical. fai workshop will be too late for lenny. [09:41] eartoast_: only if you make it release critical :) [09:41] read through the arguments also given by other developers on the fai-devel list. [09:42] lazyb0y: well, serious license issues are policy violations. [09:42] I offered you both mediation in private email to solve the issue, but you didn't even reply - not exactly very friendly, isn't it? [09:42] eartoast_: I mean it depends how the copyright-owner, that is undoubtedly you, handles the issue [09:43] you act like its not just because your personaly want but because of debian rulkes or whatever,m but it's clearly the former [09:43] its both. [09:44] yes, it's both, and I agree, and never said something against that your claims are incorrect [09:44] lazyb0y: sorry that i did not answer your pm :( [09:45] but in repcect to the work of the whole team, the timing is bad [09:45] eartoast_: It's not too late during the FAI workshop, because such bugs can be fixed at any time. Even a week before the final release. So please wait and give us all the chance to discuss this is real life. [09:46] eartoast_: o.k.: i took that as lacking interest to talk friendly about the issue - maybe it was only lack of time or something else... [09:47] BTW "never said something against that your claims are incorrect" is wrong - I mean, your claims are valid basically :) [09:47] Mrfai: we had discussed this in the past, so what is there still to be discussed? read through the arguments given on the dev list; [09:48] lazyb0y: well. lack of time is the basic issue; i had to organize moving 2 full racks to another server room :( [09:49] o.k. guys, I have to leave for some hours - I invite you to organize a conference call "under 6 eyes" to talk about this - please send me time proposals, at best today or this week, so we can talk half an hour about this! [10:05] Mrfai, the release team really doesnt want to go review unneeded changes. if you can do a change today, do it now, and dont put load on the release team by making them review a change which you could do now [10:05] siggg (~jean@tra78-5-88-172-128-32.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:06] Action: h01ger doesnt really see what needs to be discussed here in a conference call. i agree, we should discuss the general handling at some other point of time, but for the copyright notes eartoast demands, there is nothing to discuss about. IMO [10:06] allee (~ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de) joined #fai. [10:16] Mrfai, eartoast kann nicht nur das removal aus oldstable, stable, testing und sid verlangen, sondern auch von uni-koeln. *kopfschüttel* und EOT für mich. dat ist doch nicht so viel arbeit. dieses diskussion kostet mehr energie als 3min die patches applien. [10:42] mludi42 (~or4000@213-205-85-140.net.novis.pt) joined #fai. 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[17:04] hi [17:06] some body have the knowledge of the setup_harddisk fai script? [17:07] allee (~ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [17:12] i have an error with the preserve option. In my hdd(16GB), the first partition is a primary ntfs(4GB), setup_harddisk try allocate 3-32499 for the size, i think is a problem with geometry of disk, default in windows the segment is 255 and linux is 16, i try to modify it to the setup_harddisk but i don't know where exactly i can modify it [17:17] the fai log message is : "Use of uninitialized value in multiplication (*) at /usr/sbin/setup_harddisk line 1020, line 2 [17:17] Use of uninitialized value in soustraction (*) at /usr/sbin/setup_harddisk line 1275, line 2 [17:34] erm...muss mein server i386 binaries ausführen können um das zweite nfsroot auf meinem amd64 server zu installen? [17:41] amd64 kann grundsätzlich i386 binaries ausführen [17:42] snoop, you could try to use setup-storage [17:43] hmm [17:44] hab mir ein zweites /etc/fai-i386 angelegt [17:44] mit neuem pfad fürs nfsroot [17:44] fai-guy (~fai-guy@p4FC2385B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #fai. [17:44] aber make-nfs-root bricht ab mit W:Failure trying to tun chroot /var/fai/nfsroot-i386/live/filesystem.dir mount -t proc proc /proc [17:45] -tun +run [17:51] how i can switch for use setup-storage ? [18:07] check faiwiki.debian.net [18:07] unfortunatly Mrfai didnt update the fai guide with the info which is in the wiki... [18:09] #486537 [18:13] fai-guy_ (~fai-guy@p4FC228E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #fai. [18:19] fai-guy (~fai-guy@p4FC2385B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [18:35] hmmm [18:35] irgendwas stimmt mit debootstrap nicht [18:52] wie kann ich denn die initrd die per pxe gelanden wird updaten? [18:52] ich habe den verdacht dass eine verwendet wird die nicht zum nfsroot passt [18:52] einfach im tftproot ersetzen [18:53] maui: ich muss die initrd doch sicherlich erst bauen? [18:53] fai-guy (~fai-guy@p4FC22779.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #fai. [18:53] öhm wenn du einen eigenen kernel hast ja [18:53] nee, ist ein debian kernel [18:54] dann hab ich keine bis wenig ahnung ;) [18:56] jemand anders? [18:57] man kann ja mit update-initramfs eine neue bauen, aber 1) wo (nfsroot?) und 2) muss ich die ramdisk dann manuell rumkopieren? [18:57] das wird ja sonst scheinbar auch automatisch gemacht. [18:58] dann gibts dafür ja auch schon code [18:58] vielleicht ja so dass er hierfür wiederbenutz werden kann? [18:59] fai-guy_ (~fai-guy@p4FC228E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [19:01] stockholm, grep update-initramds `dpkg -L fai*` [19:02] fai-guy (~fai-guy@p4FC22779.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [19:30] h01ger: ich teste das mal zufuss :-) [19:36] hm, und wie bekomme ich jetzt setup-storage beim neuen fai [19:36] stockholm, rtfm [19:36] oh [19:36] gibts ja garnich... [19:36] stockholm, steht im wiki [19:38] ah, ich glaube ich habe noch garnicht meinen config space installiert. [19:52] erm...ich versuche ja grade wie gesagt meine i386 clients zu installieren [19:53] der kommt bis begin: mounting root file system [19:53] aber ab da nix :( [19:53] was kann ich da nur tun? [19:54] kannst du so mounten? [19:55] jop [19:55] nach dieser begin mount zeile kommt nur noch ne msg vom module e100: link up [19:58] danach kommt nüx mehr [19:58] im pxe wird die korrekte ip noch angezeigt [19:59] aber nfs is doch im std debian client drinne...oder? [20:26] stockholm: in der announce mail vopn thomas stand was, dass man irgendeine variable setzen muss... steht bestimmt auch im changelog, sowas schreibt thomas normal da rein. wie die configs aussehen muessen, steht wohl dann im wiki [20:27] snoop: i didn't test it, but I'd try it the way described in the announcement mail on linux-fai [20:31] maui: wie genau bootest du? bzw. wie hast du deine boot-config erstellt? bei dem unionfs kram muessn die kernel parameter in genau der richtigen reihenfolge sein... [21:00] habs scho ;) [21:00] war noch ein wildgewordener dhcp vom kollegen im weg ;) [21:41] maui (~maui@62.112.90.241) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:01] warum kriege ich nie die announcemails? wo gehen die hin? [22:45] siggg (~jean@tra78-5-88-172-128-32.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [00:00] --- Tue Jun 24 2008