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| 06:47 glance | anyone here that have installed ubuntu hardy with fai and fixed the update_grub_changeprompt_threeway problem? |
| 06:48 glance | the thing is that update-grub needs permission from debconf to update the menu.lst and some magic doesn't do right. |
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| 07:15 torkel | glance: preseed debconf? |
| 07:18 theBro | how do I update the install kernel image on fai server? Installing lenovo T60 does not work currently, seems to fail because of bad drivers (seems that the install kernel (under tftp root) is not updated with FAI upgrades) |
| 07:19 theBro | can I just copy a standard debian kernel (along with initrd image) and be happy with it |
| 07:40 glance | ive did. but it doesn't bite. |
| 07:43 glance | theBro: you need to have a initrd with the live-stuff in it. |
| 07:43 glance | rebuild the nfsroot is the easiest way to update it. |
| 07:43 glance | then you get the right modules in the nfsroot and so on.... |
| 07:44 torkel | depending on what version of FAI you are using though... |
| 07:44 theBro | just run dist-upgrade yesterday so it should be something like 3.2.4 |
| 07:45 theBro | everything works with T41 laptops but T60 uses different HW and that gives me problems (SATA disks and different net chip) |
| 07:47 theBro | the current problem is that the kernel that is booted up with TFTP does not support the net card on T60 |
| 07:47 glance | are you shure it works with the debian kernels? |
| 07:48 theBro | T41 uses the fai install kernel for booting |
| 07:49 theBro | debian kernel doesn't seem to work as install kernel (tried with initrd with nfs stuff in it) |
| 07:50 theBro | is the faiwiki guide for custom install kernel still valid (http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/Using_customized_kernels_with_FAI) |
| 07:51 theBro | nope, it has the KERNELPACKAGE option that is no longer used... |
| 07:52 glance | use the NFSROOT file to define wich packages to install in the nfsroot. |
| 07:56 theBro | hmm, it seems that the stock debian kernel might actually work for install kernel now that I included a lot more drivers on intird image |
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| 12:36 stockholm | hi |
| 12:36 stockholm | is there some fai short form for "chroot $target sh -c "blah"" ? |
| 12:40 oz_ | $rootcmd sh -c "bla" could be... |
| 12:40 oz_ | but feel free to alias it. ;) |
| 12:41 torkel | oz_: shouldn't it be $ROOTCMD ? or is both available? |
| 12:42 oz_ | torkel: I am never sure with case sensitivity... |
| 12:52 lazyb0y_ | h01ger: no, I didn't knoiw about that page yet. who did it and where is it? |
| 12:53 lazyb0y_ | h01ger: ah, forget it, you mean the work meeting page... |
| 12:54 lazyb0y_ | (i thought extremadura is using fai already, and there is some docs about it...) |
| 12:54 lazyb0y_ | I will subscribe to the page, but please don't use it for discussion! if there are things to be discussed, please use email |
| Action: h01ger nods |
| 13:01 lazyb0y_ | h01ger: BTW you searched for Benoit? Because you don't know him and want to check who he is? :) |
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| 13:07 h01ger | lazyb0y_, no. because i want to read what he has written :) |
| 13:09 lazyb0y_ | ah, about gosa - yes, I'd also like to know how it really works... |
| Action: oz_ recently saw "linbo" in action |
| 13:10 oz_ | some guy told me that mr. knopper wrote some opensource alternative to rembo |
| 13:10 oz_ | looked quite okay |
| 13:11 oz_ | it's part of some project from Baden-Wuertemberg, the guy told me. |
| 13:11 stockholm | i like the "add user" stuff i have produced. |
| 13:12 stockholm | it could be nicer if it was in fai proper |
| 13:12 oz_ | stockholm: "add user" has nothing to do with system installation, imho |
| 13:13 stockholm | is there interest in adding static users with ssh keys and password hashes? |
| 13:13 stockholm | oz_: see, fai is not about system installation |
| 13:13 stockholm | it is about system administration |
| 13:14 lazyb0y_ | adding users at first install time is quite exactly what fai is about imho |
| 13:15 lazyb0y_ | and adding them at fai softupdate is also what fai is about :) |
| 13:15 stockholm | lazyb0y_: mine is even capable of adding more users and modifing them with softupdates |
| 13:15 lazyb0y_ | otherwise, we woul djust use debian-installer and cfengine |
| 13:15 lazyb0y_ | wow - did you announce it on the mailing list, and document/upload it in the wiki? |
| 13:16 stockholm | lazyb0y_: i finished a working prototype yesterday night at 1 |
| 13:16 stockholm | lazyb0y_: so no |
| 13:16 lazyb0y_ | hmm, I also heard of linbo, but I cannot find anything aout it on the net |
| 13:16 lazyb0y_ | ah |
| 13:32 oz_ | stockholm: I don't see much of a difference |
| 13:32 oz_ | bi it's still FAI and not FAA ;) |
| 13:32 oz_ | but that's just my 5 cents |
| 13:32 oz_ | lazyb0y_: I saw a sample install in Schwäbisch-Gmund last week |
| 13:32 oz_ | it looked quite nice, imho |
| 13:33 oz_ | what would you suggest for the administration of desktop systems? |
| 13:33 oz_ | if the systems change often? |
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| 14:40 stockholm | oz_: have you used softupdates yet? |
| 14:53 oz_ | stockholm: yes |
| 14:54 oz_ | but $customer missed the possibility to feed back changes for the client automatically... |
| 14:54 oz_ | can faisoftupdate do that? |
| 15:08 stockholm | i dont understand the question |
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| 15:12 oz_ | stockholm: ppl ask me how one can update the configspace automatically from a changed installed client |
| 15:13 stockholm | that seems DANGEROUS. :-) |
| 15:13 oz_ | stockholm: not so dangerous, if you keep your configspace in svn ;) |
| 15:14 Mrfai | oz_: this is not possible. |
| 15:14 oz_ | stockholm: that is a feature I was often asked for |
| 15:14 Mrfai | oz_: And you should not change the install client manually. You must make your changes only in the config space. |
| 15:15 Mrfai | change your config space and then call softupdate, but never change thing on the install clients. |
| 15:15 oz_ | Mrfai: I just look for a way to change the configspace by a script triggered on the client |
| 15:16 oz_ | Mrfai: I never used softupdate like this, I'll do it later |
| 15:18 oz_ | Mrfai: but I think some hack using 'debsums' could do it |
| 15:20 stockholm | Mrfai: did you see the "user add" feature i wrote about? is there interest for that? |
| 15:28 Mrfai | stockholm: put your script into the wiki |
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