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[13:46] emgent (~emgent@87.1.8.124) left irc: [14:44] tostado (~tostado@dslb-082-083-103-075.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #fai. [14:44] hi [14:46] i need help. we install ubuntu feisty clients with fai (ubuntu gutsy server) and need to enable german environment. we cant get german special characters on the console... [14:47] dpkg-reconfigure console-data doesnt work for us [14:48] hmm, we're using Debian etch and have the same problem [14:49] but thus far we haven't got a solution ... [14:49] maybe you should ask on the mailinglist [14:50] did zou fix it somehow _ [14:50] <\sh> console-data is not state of art anymore [14:50] tostado, installed all the neede locales ? dpkg-reconfigure locales [14:50] yes i tried that too... [14:51] root@supergrobi:~# dpkg-reconfigure locales [14:51] Generating locales... [14:51] de_AT.UTF-8... up-to-date [14:51] de_BE.UTF-8... up-to-date [14:51] de_CH.UTF-8... up-to-date [14:51] de_DE.UTF-8... up-to-date [14:51] de_LU.UTF-8... up-to-date [14:51] Generation complete. [14:52] and the lang and languages variables are sane ? set | grep LANG [14:53] set | grep LANG gives no output [14:54] <\sh> tostado, check /etc/environment [14:56] ok [14:57] right now there are no LANG entrys in /etc/environment [14:57] i will put them there [14:58] <\sh> tostado, like LANG="de_DE.utf8" e.g. [14:58] <\sh> tostado, like LANG="de_DE.UTF8" e.g. (more correct9 [15:00] ok [15:01] it did change something, the y and z are now correct [15:01] but not umlaute [15:02] right now something else is displayed when i press o-umlaut, but its garbage anyway... [15:02] <\sh> tostado, relogined? [15:02] yes [15:03] set | grep LANG outputs LANG="de_DE.UTF8" [15:04] <\sh> tostado, ok now for /etc/default/console-setup [15:05] <\sh> tostado, dpkg-reconfigure console-setup [15:06] Action: \sh grabs a coffee and some nicotine :) [15:06] :) [15:07] <\sh> tostado, btw...why are you installing feisty clients, when gutsy is more mature? :) [15:08] because there is a bug with installing gutsz with fai, related to the unionfs driver in gutsy in combination with nfs mounts [15:09] :( [15:09] i really would like to do so [15:09] <\sh> tostado, you can find better fai packages on the ppa of the fai team in ubuntu ;) [15:09] <\sh> http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-fai/ [15:09] <\sh> check for personal package archive [15:10] thats what we are using [15:10] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/137765 [15:13] <\sh> tostado, hmm...yeah [15:13] <\sh> crap [15:13] im looking for a link describing a workaraund for that problem [15:13] but i cant find it [15:13] it did cost us a lot of time to find out... [15:14] but i will keep going on with console/setup [15:14] encoding on the console is utf-8 right [15:15] <\sh> tostado, well, when I read the comments correctly, there was a fix which was unfixed again...when I find the fix, you can compile your own kernel...or just wait for hardy ,-) [15:15] <\sh> that reminds me to merge fai up to latest version for hardy [15:15] its alright if we just wait for hardy we are still busy with the right fai setup... [15:16] ok, console setup reconfigured nothing changed... [15:17] VERBOSE_OUTPUT=no [15:17] ACTIVE_CONSOLES="/dev/tty[1-6]" [15:17] CHARMAP="UTF-8" [15:17] CODESET="Lat15" [15:17] FONTFACE="Fixed" [15:17] FONTSIZE="16" [15:17] XKBMODEL="pc105" [15:17] XKBLAYOUT="de" [15:17] XKBVARIANT="" [15:17] XKBOPTIONS="" [15:17] BOOTTIME_KMAP_MD5="ee2642e7945b700925467c130f600efb" [15:18] <\sh> tostado, /etc/init.d/keyboard-setup restart? [15:20] mom [15:20] no nothing changed [15:20] strange [15:20] <\sh> re-.login...or try a reboot [15:21] <\sh> well, I'll check it from here...give me a sec [15:22] <\sh> grmpf...my console is fragged because of stupid xorg driver...starting up laptop [15:22] what i find strange is that i didnt find any information or howtos related to this problem, and i am not the only one with it... nothing in the fai wiki, no example GERMAN classes... [15:23] <\sh> tostado, well...ubuntu is not debian ;) but most likely the ubuntu changes are hitting debian too [15:25] yes i know... its just that: [15:25] > (15:48:53) MT: hmm, we're using Debian etch and have the same problem [15:25] well, honestly, we've never looked into that terribly much [15:25] so its not ubuntu only [15:26] but yes, it does not work out of the box... [15:26] <\sh> well, when I do this on my gutsy console it works [15:26] does anyone here install ubuntu clients with german environment [15:26] <\sh> dpkg-reconfigure console-setup regenerating your initramfs? [15:27] <\sh> tostado, I did that in my old company but with dapper [15:27] <\sh> did a reboot help? [15:28] i will try and come in in a few moments [15:28] tostado (tostado@dslb-082-083-103-075.pools.arcor-ip.net) left #fai (Kopete 0.12.4 : http://kopete.kde.org). [15:38] tostado (~tostado@dslb-082-083-103-075.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #fai. [15:38] re [15:39] ok, now i have different garbage when i press o-umlaut i.e. :) [15:42] kugg (~kugg@1-1-1-48a.mdp.mlm.bostream.se) joined #fai. [15:42] <\sh> tostado, you installed all german language stuff? [15:42] but i found someting interesting... i created a file with umlauten - on my lokal system looks odd [15:43] but when i login from another, good configured system the umlaut looks ok [15:43] so maybe its just a font problem on the console [15:44] maybe not [15:45] i will show you what we install [15:46] PACKAGES aptitude GNOME [15:46] mozilla-firefox-locale-de-de [15:46] thunderbird-locale-de [15:46] PACKAGES aptitude KDE [15:46] enigmail-locale-de language-pack-de language-pack-de-base language-pack-kde-de language-pack-kde-de-base [15:46] mozilla-firefox-locale-de-de thunderbird-locale-de [15:46] openoffice.org-l10n-de openoffice.org-help-de openoffice.org-hyphenation-de openoffice.org-l10n-de openoffice.org-thesaurus-de [15:46] myspell-de-de [15:51] <\sh> hmmm... [15:52] <\sh> what's in your /etc/console-setup/ dir? use pastebin pleas...e.g. pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org :) [15:54] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52621/ [15:56] <\sh> tostado, looks ok...now check the md5 checksum of boottime.kmap.gz with your md5 sum in /etc/default/console-setup [15:58] ok pasted again they differ [16:01] sorry now i know what you mean but they differ also [16:02] <\sh> tostado, check the contents of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52624/ this with your /etc/default/console-setup ... it works here with a simple dpkg-reconfigure console-setup [16:04] ok the only difference is fontface VGA instead of fontface FIXED [16:05] i can try to fix that [16:06] no nothing changed :( [16:07] strange. if i log in from remote and create a file with umlaut its displayed correct remote but lokal it looks bad [16:07] <\sh> tostado, ok now I'm at the end with my latin language...can you join freenode and ask in #ubuntu or better #ubuntu-devel which packages needed for console fonts? for me everything looks correct..But I don't have a feisty anymore to test [16:07] so its more a font problem than a kezboard one [16:08] ok [16:08] thanks anyway :) [16:09] hope we get it fixed [16:11] tostado2 (~tostado@dslb-082-083-103-075.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #fai. 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