[01:02] oz_ (~oz@anubis.coresystems.de) left irc: Server closed connection [01:02] oz_ (~oz@anubis.coresystems.de) joined #fai. [01:04] hello fai friends [01:07] hi dto [01:08] i'm going to set up a test fai server tonight [01:09] use it to install/configure the machine that will become the fai server [01:21] what is PXE? is that what happens when I enable "Boot from LAN" in my client's BIOS? [01:27] by the way, i'm going to write a fai binding for emacs lisp :-) [01:43] xzu (~otto@brucester.a20.net) left irc: Server closed connection [01:43] xzu (~otto@brucester.a20.net) joined #fai. [01:53] does my fai server need to have a fixed IP address? or can it itself be a DHCP client to our router box? [02:01] ok, i have tftpd-hpa installed, but i can't seem to get it to run. i changed it to RUN_DAEMON="yes" in /etc/defaults/tftpd-hpa, but it won't run [02:01] even with in.tftpd -l [02:03] the client i'm trying to boot, i'm not sure whether it uses BOOTP or PXE or what. the BIOS setting is just "boot from lan" [02:04] ah wait [02:26] mikap (~mika@mail.michael-prokop.at) left irc: Server closed connection [02:27] mikap (~mika@mail.michael-prokop.at) joined #fai. [02:31] hi mikap [02:31] baldy (baldy@brain.servercrew.de) left irc: Server closed connection [02:31] baldy (baldy@brain.servercrew.de) joined #fai. [02:32] Robinayo1_ (~robin@suw.rkara.de) left irc: Server closed connection [02:32] Robinayor_ (~robin@194.150.191.19) joined #fai. [02:40] ok, i'm stuck [02:41] what i'm trying to do is use a "temporary" fai server that i've installed on this laptop. i have a machine called Shodan that is actually going to be the fai server from then on [02:41] trying to boot the fai-cd on shodan resulted in a kernel panic (can't open scripts/live) [02:41] this has something to do with network cards? but not sure [02:55] dto: your fai box doesnt need to be a fixed-address [02:55] but i think you'll need some sort of dns [02:57] yeah [03:09] dto (~user@24-183-185-28.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [03:27] dto (~user@24-183-185-28.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) joined #fai. [03:27] eartoast_ (~glaweh@g33.physik.fu-berlin.de) left irc: Server closed connection [03:27] eartoast (~glaweh@g33.physik.fu-berlin.de) joined #fai. [03:27] hi. the cd install failed. before i get anywhere, it drops to (initramfs) prompt with no error messages, dmesg shows nothing useful [03:33] maybe this error when doing fai-mirror? E: Couldn't find package unionfs-modules-2.6-486 [03:38] faibot joined #fai. [03:49] hello. [03:50] i'm running make-fai-bootfloppy -v -g -I eth0 -f shodan-install.floppy -i shodan-install.iso -d f -F -s shodan [03:50] and it says [03:50] Copying the kernel /srv/fai/nfsroot/boot/vmlinuz- to the floppy. [03:50] cp: cannot stat `/srv/fai/nfsroot/usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/stage?': No such file or directory [03:50] but that file does exist in /srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir/usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/stage? <--- several files [03:50] how do I fix this? [03:51] i didn't change anything about the nfsroot really [03:51] maybe i need to rebuild the nfsroot? [03:53] ah [03:53] hmm [03:56] anyone awake? [04:04] torkel (torkel@monsun.hpc2n.umu.se) left irc: Server closed connection [04:04] torkel (torkel@monsun.hpc2n.umu.se) joined #fai. [04:05] glance (glance@shaka.acc.umu.se) left irc: Server closed connection [04:05] glance (glance@shaka.acc.umu.se) joined #fai. [04:08] hi glance [04:09] can you help with make-fai-bootfloppy? i get Copying the kernel /srv/fai/nfsroot/boot/vmlinuz- to the floppy. [04:09] cp: cannot stat `/srv/fai/nfsroot/usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/stage?': No such file or directory [04:09] [04:11] if i make a symlink, it gives me cp: cannot stat `/srv/fai/nfsroot/boot/vmlinuz-': No such file or directory [04:11] [04:12] (the grub files it's looking for are actually in /srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem-dir [04:12] .dir [04:12] why is it looking into the wrong place? [04:15] this is hour 5 and i've not accomplished anything with fai :( [04:15] i'm reading the manuals most of that time too [04:15] there seems to be no help for make-fai-bootfloppy [04:16] basically, it is expecting things to be in /srv/fai/nfsroot/ but they're really in /srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir/... [04:17] am i missing something [04:17] ? [04:20] this is the exact problem i'm having http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20071105.160045.740d7d39.en.html [04:45] i'm giving up for now. i hope people will be around tomorrow. [05:17] hmm [05:27] i'm getting a failure to mount unionfs in live.log [05:28] with "no such device" [05:29] hmm, i don't seem to have unionfs [05:30] i'll work on it tomorrow... [07:43] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [08:22] itais (~itais@62.81.119.138.static.user.ono.com) joined #fai. [08:31] itais (~itais@62.81.119.138.static.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:35] su[] (~su@p57B9AEE2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #fai. [08:36] guten morgen [08:38] itais (~itais@62.81.119.138.static.user.ono.com) joined #fai. [09:24] itais (~itais@62.81.119.138.static.user.ono.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [09:40] ping [09:40] äh [09:52] i-R2D276 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:59] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) joined #fai. [10:17] itais (~itais@84.79.145.30) joined #fai. [10:35] currently the copying of logfiles always requires a manual interaction when coming to the end of the installation [10:36] that is an ssh thing, it does not happen in a different environment when running an install with the same fai server [10:36] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:37] Mrfai (~lange@suenner.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [10:38] did anyone else see probelms with setupharddisks2 when creating more then one lvm volumegroup? [10:39] it crashes for me. [10:40] error msg? [10:41] it says: [10:41] ERROR (line 16): Invalid file: Was expecting /\Z/ but found "vg02_disks [10:41] /var/disks 0- xfs rw,noatime" instead [10:45] and of course chboot does not work at the end of the install either. [11:39] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [12:16] itais (~itais@84.79.145.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [13:04] MT: ping [13:04] hi! [13:04] MT: bei mir crascht shdd2 wenn ich zwei lvm vgs machen möchte [13:05] 11:41 ERROR (line 16): Invalid file: Was expecting /\Z/ but found "vg02_disks [13:05] 11:41 /var/disks 0- xfs rw,noatime" instead [13:05] kannst Du die gesamte disk_config mal pasten? [13:05] (paste.d.n) [13:06] stockholm, ich bin in ca. 30 min wieder da [13:06] ja [13:07] http://paste.debian.net/43069 [13:07] also mit dem auskommentierten einkommentiert [13:18] kann man bei package_config's auch Klassen logisch verknüpfen like "PACKAGES aptitude I386 ! SUSE" zb [13:21] nein [13:21] schade [13:21] das wuerde das ganze zu kompliziert machen [13:21] ok, das mag ich glauben [13:24] stockholm, funktioniert das, wenn Du die Zeile disk_config lvm beim 2. Mal entfernst? [13:25] nein, das haben ich dazugetan um das problem zu lösen [13:25] ahhhh [13:26] versuch's doch mal mit vg02-_disks [13:26] :-) [13:26] ah [13:27] aber mit der neuen lvm zeile? [13:27] is egal glaub ich [13:27] ist schöner ohne [13:28] danke [13:28] benützt Du eigentlich die aktuelle SVN-Version? [13:28] nee, die an der ich in merida gearbeitet habe [13:29] kustran (~kustran@amq178.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) joined #fai. [13:30] hello [13:30] I'm back :] [13:35] boot from cd with nfsroot still doesn't work :/ [13:37] did you asked the debian-live guys? [13:37] yeap [13:37] is this possible to boot from cd and use nfsroot exported from nfsserver, not use filesystem from cd? [13:37] fir the second last question: in theory yes, in practise not yet i think. there are a few glitches left [13:37] in live-initramfs which do prevent this [13:37] you should ask fai people; they have propably more experience with netboot [13:37] :) [13:38] :-) [13:39] I will give it a short try [13:39] kustran: for me it works fine ... boot from cd and use nfsroot and config space mounted by nfs [13:39] kustran: sure this is possible [13:40] did that on boxes without floppy [13:41] which version? FAI 3.2 and newer? [14:01] su[]: which parameters do you use? [14:01] mrfai: yes, 3.2 [14:01] boot from pxe work ok [14:01] boot from cd too [14:01] but mixed - no [14:02] i must find simply method to install about 4k terminals [14:02] part of them have bootprom, part no [14:02] so I must boot part of them from cd/usbdrive [14:03] FAI looks good for me... [14:04] terminals are different, I can't clone disk [14:06] when I boot from PXE, then unionfs is loaded and everything works [14:06] when I boot from usbdrive - unionfs won't start [14:08] 4k terminal. Wow, that's a lot. [14:08] yes :/ [14:08] too much [14:08] :) [14:08] Currently I boot from fai-cd, and now I change the boot parameters, so it should use NFS [14:09] which parameters do you use? root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=/srv/fai/nfsroot ? [14:09] any others? [14:11] I use ip=dhcp root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=... boot-live [14:11] And it works [14:11] I must check insert modprobe unionfs into /srcipts/nfs-top... maybe it helps [14:11] boot-live? or boot=live ? [14:12] boot-live [14:12] sorry [14:12] boot=live is correct [14:12] ok... I have that same parameters... [14:12] but unionfs won't start [14:15] kustran: use the original faicd form the fai web page. Let's check if this works or not. [14:15] ok, i try [14:16] on vmware [14:16] OK, first try it on vmware, then on your real hardware. [14:17] You know, you have to enter the edit mode of grub, after you see the grub menu. [14:17] yes, I know :) [14:17] fine [14:21] not working [14:21] mount: device or resource busy [14:22] unionfs not started [14:22] scripts looping [14:23] tell me the url of the iso image you have downloaded. [14:24] http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/fai-cd/fai-cd-3.2.iso [14:24] standard place ... [14:26] md5 sum is ok [14:27] ok. Then test it on real hardware [14:27] ok, wait a sec. (longer :) ) [14:28] BTW, which kernel do you have inside your nfsroot? Please paste the output of make-fai-nfsroot -v to paste.d.n [14:30] inside is 2.6.18-5-486 [14:32] plain debian or build by your own? [14:33] plain [14:33] ok. All very fine [14:34] i-R2D2101 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) joined #fai. [14:35] ok can you paste your dhcpd.conf [14:35] eine frage zu smart für ein sles oder gibt es dafür einen anderen channel [14:35] ? [14:35] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:36] http://paste.debian.net/43076 [14:37] with and without root-path was that same end [14:39] root-path is not needed [14:39] yhm [14:40] all this works ok, because i can boot from pxe :) [14:40] looks fine. I can see no problem. But remove root-path [14:40] ok [14:41] what does your real hardware say? [14:41] k3b: 80% of burning... [14:43] first try "normal" cd boot? [14:44] This is up to you [14:48] MT: lvm crascht wenn man grosse vgs hat hier habe ich 5T [14:48] terminal can't boot from cdrom on usb... I must find normal cd [14:50] lvm bug oder ein Problem von shdd? [14:51] oh, CDROM on usb. Maybe this is the problem. [14:51] CAn you boot from USB stick? [14:52] Action: Mrfai brb [14:53] no, i try that method - "normal" boot works, with nfsroot not [15:04] stop. If you can boot from usb stick, this will be much easier and faster than from CDROM via USB. [15:04] ok [15:04] And IMO it will make no difference for the problem after booting. [15:05] Can you test booting from CD from different hardware, not from the terminals. So we can check if you NFS server setup is not the cause of yuor problems. [15:06] Just a simple computer with cdrom or from usb stick [15:11] ok, i try [15:12] another sec. ... :) [15:28] ich bekomme smart nicht in nach /target installiert, er scheitert an einem SuSEconfig aufruf, irgendwelche Ideen ? [15:30] fai.log:ERROR - can not find /dev/nfs/lib/YaST/SuSEconfig.functions!! [15:30] fai.log:error: %post(smart-0.51-11.guru.suse101.i686) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 [15:30] und ab da hängt die Installation richtig fest [15:31] keine Ahnung von Suse. [15:34] I boot laptop without hdd [15:34] dachte ich mir :( [15:35] they start, mounting root.... Running /scripts, initialized usb massstorage and stops [15:36] last msg is sd 2:0:0:0 Attached scsi removable disk sda [15:38] sda is your usb stick [15:39] yes [15:39] but it should continue. When it stops, does it hang, or do you get a shell? [15:40] it stops, enter works, i can't switch to other console [15:40] i try boot from pxe [15:42] do you get the shell from initramfs? [15:42] no [15:43] so it's the shell from after the nfsroot is mounted? [15:43] after you have seen the red logo? [15:43] before [15:43] I can't see red logo [15:44] I'll guess it's the shell from the initramfs. [15:44] no, scripts still works [15:44] Can you take a photo of this screen? I like to see it. [15:45] tommorow, I finish works at 17 [15:45] ok? [15:47] fine. [15:49] boot from pxe works [15:50] including nfs mount and you see the red logo? [15:50] yes [15:50] Very fine. [15:50] it's stop because I havn't hdd, but they start procedure. [15:50] so this is ok [15:51] Yes, that's ok. [15:51] what is your NFS server running? Which kernel? which nfs server? User space or kernel space? [15:54] hello [15:54] nfs-kernel-server [15:54] itais (~itais@84.79.145.30) joined #fai. [15:54] kustran: good [15:54] which kernel? [15:55] 2.6.22 [15:55] nsf-kernel-server: 1:1.1.1-8 [15:55] i'm booting via etherboot CD on the machine I want to install with FAI. it contacts the fai server just fine (the Guide should say more about fai-chboot, by the way, it was confusing) and loads a kernel, however it says it can't mount via unionfs because there's no such device [15:57] i would like to write a tutorial for fai when i am done... the Guide discusses all paths at every chapter, instead of showing one working example [15:57] dto (~user@24-183-185-28.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:58] dtoxx (~user@24-183-185-28.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) joined #fai. [15:58] dto (~user@24-183-185-28.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) joined #fai. [15:58] my config: http://paste.debian.net/43090 [15:58] dtoxx (~user@24-183-185-28.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) left irc: [15:58] dto (user@24-183-185-28.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) left #fai. [15:58] dto (~user@24-183-185-28.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) joined #fai. [15:58] sorry, hope i did not miss your response [15:58] no :) [16:01] anyway "locate unionfs" on the server comes up with nothing [16:01] except some files in the nfsrot [16:01] dto (~user@24-183-185-28.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:01] dto (~user@24-183-185-28.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) joined #fai. [16:01] hmm [16:01] oftc seems to be logging me in and out [16:02] kustran: ok, it's not plain Debian etch. Do you have a machine running with etch? Then just copy your nfsroot to this this machine [16:05] tommorow I install etch base system and try again [16:05] thanks and bye [16:05] if i am using a custom kernel on the FAI server itself, will it cause problems related to the client not being able to mount via unionfs (i.e. no device?) [16:05] kustran (~kustran@amq178.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:05] i am running lenny on the server (and trying to install that on the client) [16:06] fai site seems to be down... [16:06] let me check [16:06] no [16:07] ok, must be my internet [16:07] yep [16:07] although, debmirror is running fine... [16:07] anywya [16:07] dto: what excatly does not work? Do you see the red logo? Or what do you mean by "it contacts the fai server just fine"? [16:07] the machine boots. [16:08] i.e. receives an IP address from the server, and loads pxelinux [16:08] i see lots of standard linux boot messages abotu PCI and USB [16:08] then it dies trying to mount something with unionfs [16:08] this is from an etherboot CDROM [16:08] do you get a shell prompt? [16:08] let me try again [16:09] a prompt from the initramfs [16:09] ? [16:09] /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off [16:10] (initramfs) [16:10] yes [16:10] su[] (~su@p57B9AEE2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: bin raus hier [16:11] this time it doesn't complain about unionfs [16:11] sepski (~sep@217.17.211.51) joined #fai. [16:11] although, i installed unionfs-tools on the server [16:11] anyway. i get (initramfs) and then nothing [16:11] just a prompt, no error messages or anything [16:11] now you have a shell and can read /var/log/live.log or use nfsmount to manually try to mount the nfsroot [16:12] ok, seems you have the same problem as kustran. [16:12] ok, no, it's complaining about unionfs again [16:12] "mounting unionfs on /root failed: no such device" [16:13] is there anything obviously unionfs related that i need to have on my fai server? [16:13] locate unionfs --> nothing [16:14] do i need to compile it into my kernel?? [16:14] the unionfs kernel modules are only located inside the nfsroot [16:14] which kernel does it use? [16:15] plain debian 2.6.18 if you have etch in your nfsroot [16:15] i put lenny in my nfsroot [16:15] but that should be ok, right? [16:15] (does it matter that the server's actual running kernel is custom?) [16:15] Maybe [16:16] In order to locate the problem, it would be good to use etch in the nfsroot, and to mount the nfsroot from a server running etch with 2.6.18. [16:16] If this works, you can try to use etch inside the nfsroot or a custom kernel on your nfs-server. [16:17] Currently my impression is that newer kernel on the nfs server side cause problems. [16:17] i don't have any etch. [16:17] any etch systems, that is [16:17] I don't have lenny, and for me everythings works :-) [16:18] so maybe it's jsut the name. You have testing, I have stable. And both work the way what they are named ;-) [16:19] i tried putting "testing" in the conf file, but it only knew how to find "lenny" [16:19] do we have any reports in that huge database of people using fai with lenny? etch is ancient... [16:20] the lenny distribution actually contains fai packages which is how i installed them [16:20] ancient but stable. Now choose what you prefer ;-) [16:21] i don't think this means they ship broken fai packages. i think the debian people would catch it if FAI completely broke on lenny. [16:22] so the issue is how to get it to work on lenny, not how can i reinstall all my systems to CHECK if fai will maybe work [16:22] sorry, i've been banging my head against the FAI wall for about 24 hours now [16:22] with 0 installs completed [16:23] I'm sure it's not the fault of FAI. It may be your hardware, or the NFS server in lenny, or live-initramfs. FAI is only using live-initramfs and NFS to boot up. [16:24] At the stage where your boot process fails, there's no FAI script running. It's only live-initramfs [16:25] So the first thing is to check if your setup (using FAI 3.2.1) is working with etch. If yes, then it's not FAI but lenny that causes your problems. [16:26] I can only garuantee that FAI 3.2.1 is working with etch, since I did not test it with lenny yet. [16:31] mikap: der strings aufrufe in updatebase muss ich rausnehmen. Der Befehl strings ist nicht in der nfsroot drin, die binutils moechte ich nicht hinzufuegen. [16:32] mikap: koennen wir das nicht mit aptitude --help|grep safe-upgrade machen? [16:34] mikap: I think I found a solution. I will commit it now [16:36] dto: I remember that ubuntu also have a problem with unionfs and NFS. Even when doing PXE boot. Maybe this problem is related to yours. [16:56] oh je. Niemand hat fai-mirror getestet. Es scheint seit 3.2 kaputt zu sein [16:57] nicht ganz. [17:00] doch. [17:00] :-( [17:03] jeedi (~jeedi@office.metaversum.com) joined #fai. [17:03] hi [17:04] hi [17:05] i'm currently setting up fai for a bunch of machines here, and i'm encountering problems with having them boot from /dev/md0 [17:06] the whole installation procedure (pxe, dhcp, nfsroot) works perfect, but somehow the md-modules don't get added to initrd [17:06] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:06] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [17:06] you can add them to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules before creating the initrd [17:07] so after the kernel boots and everything, it's stuck at "waiting for root file system ...", then drops to a shell, and sr_mod/md_mod/raid1 are not listed in /proc/modules [17:08] hmm, what would be the proper place/script to get them added to that file? [17:11] i don't get how you know that the breakage is due to lenny and not fai, if you didn't test it either way. (somebody tested it though, otherwise it wouldn't be in lenny) [17:12] dto: i never said it's in lenny.. [17:13] jeedi: sorry that was directed at Mrfai [17:13] dto: oh, sorry. [17:14] jeedi: echo md >> $target/etc/initrmafs-tools/module [17:15] dto: at this stage, no FAI scripts are running yet. So how can it be FAI that breaks your NFS mount or loading of unionfs? [17:15] Mrfai: ok, sorry :-) [17:16] Mrfai: what if i use etch? can I tell FAI to install an etch system, and then have it upgrade to lenny after installation? [17:16] apt-get dist-upgrade? Or just a new FAI installation. [17:16] Mrfai: i'm sorry if i seem bitchy. i was just on the phone for an hour with various health insurance people trying to fix something in my enrollment that went wrong, and it's very hard to get that info on a holiday... i will try to calm down [17:17] Mrfai: let me be more specific. I want to push "boot from network" on the client, and have it 1. install etch 2. upgrade to lenny 3. install all my custom packages (which i'll figure out later) all non-interactively [17:17] dto: OK, no problem. Testing with etch will help you (and me) a lot. [17:17] Mrfai: ok :-) [17:17] okay, i solved it.. [17:17] I mean note testing-lenny, but if you would test it with etch [17:18] s/note..../not testing=lenny/ [17:19] ok, i will try that... back in a few minutes [17:19] adding "mdadm" to config/package_config/FAIBASE -> md module stuff gets thrown into initramfs [17:19] Mrfai, if they guide were a wiki, we could just copy+paste "echo md >> $target/etc/initrmafs-tools/module" there... well almost, obviously it needs some explaination around, but thats easy :) [17:20] Mrfai: i'm gonna write a tutorial for the way i use fai [17:20] h01ger :) [17:20] jeedi: perfect solution :-) [17:20] h01ger: nich noetig.. ich glaube das problem nennt sich "betriebsblindheit" [17:21] jeedi, achso. es ist dokumentiert, du hast es nur nich gesehn? [17:21] Action: h01ger hat nur so halb mitgelesen.. :) [17:21] h01ger: es ist nicht dokumentiert, aber irgendwie hab ich auch verpeilt, mdadm in die package_config reinzuschreiben [17:22] :) [17:22] wenn man von nem md booten will, sollte man vielleicht auch mdadm installieren. nur so als gedanke. [17:27] ja.. [17:27] details! :) [17:34] ok, booting... [17:39] Mrfai: what's the solution? [17:40] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/fai-commit/2007-November/001858.html [17:41] and fai-mirror is broken because a line dissapeared. But that's easy to fix. [17:52] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [17:54] can I use fai to configure the fai server itself? [17:54] sure [17:56] do i have to list the server itself as a client? [17:58] Mrfai: this will fail as soon as you don't have the libs of aptitude inside your local system :-/ [17:59] Mrfai: my suggestion: use string if that's available, if it's not available fall back to the --help option (but check whether the call is possibile at all!) and if that fails as well don't use safe-upgrade but upgrade only [18:00] in /srv/fai/config/files/etc/apt-proxy/apt-proxy-v2.conf, should i call the file FAISERVER as it is, or rename it to $HOSTNAME_OF_SERVER? [18:00] the example files seem to use "faiserver" as both a hostname and a class name, which is confusing me [18:02] what i want to do is have the fai server update its own /etc/network/interfaces (and assign itself a fixed ip) from what i put in the /srv/fai/config/files * [18:02] mikap: Oh, I should call aptitude --help inside teh chroot. So $ROOTCMD aptitude --help should be ok. [18:09] A nice tool for svn: http://paste.debian.net/43100 show all svn diffs for a certain file [18:09] Just got it from a guy on #svn. This was helpfull in finding the diff which remove a line from fai-mirror [18:13] jeedi (~jeedi@office.metaversum.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:15] Mrfai (~lange@suenner.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:15] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [18:21] Mrfai: in /srv/fai/config/files/etc/apt-proxy/apt-proxy-v2.conf, should i call [18:21] the file FAISERVER as it is, or rename it to $HOSTNAME_OF_SERVER? [18:21] [13:00] [18:21] the example files seem to use "faiserver" as both a hostname and a class [18:21] name, which is confusing me [18:23] Mrfai: jupp [18:24] can anyone tell me whether those files are supposed to be named after classes, or hosts, or what [18:25] personally, i removed FAISERVER, and started using RPN. SERVERFAI SERVERDNS SERVERMAIL etc... [18:25] RPN? [18:25] reverse polich notation? [18:25] polish? [18:25] reverse polish notation. [18:26] ok, my client is named shodan. do I call the file SHODAN to get it installed there? [18:26] my worst offense is SERVERMAILPARANOIDSHL, which is a mail server, with spamassassin, clamAV, and some custom configs for a customer. [18:27] repeat: do the names match up to hostnames, or only classes, or what [18:27] the files under config/files? [18:27] yes [18:27] they're named after the classes. [18:28] ok, thank you [18:34] i'm trying to get the fai server to update itself based on what's in /srv/fai/config [18:34] i run fai -v softupdate [18:35] i get "error: please provide the URL to obtain the fai config storage in $FAI_CONFIG_SRC [18:35] but in fai.conf i have a variable FAI_CONFIGDIR [18:35] (should I be using the most recent fai from svn?) [18:37] if i set FAI_CONFIG_SRC on the command line before fai -v softupdate [18:37] then it says Error: get-config-dir not found [18:38] all i've done at this point is instal fai on a fresh etch system, change /srv/fai/config stuff, and then i did fai-setup -v which completed successfully. [18:41] you should always use the newest version from svn to start from. :) [18:41] of course, i use FAI CDs, and havent even investigated softupdate. [18:46] ok, installing fai from source... [18:47] Lin (~igor@200.179.57.57) joined #fai. [18:49] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [18:55] ok, fai-setup -v gives me "start: command not found" [18:56] (guessing this is an error in the "Depends:" part of the debs that I made per the instructions in README.biuld_source or whatever [19:01] can't seem to figure out what program "start" is [19:01] dto, which fai version? [19:02] from svn [19:02] just now [19:02] dto: you need not install fai from sources. [19:02] Mrfai: you should always use the newest version from svn to start from. :) [19:03] should i remove that and just install fai from the debian etch repo? [19:03] yep. Add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list and install the fai packages: [19:03] deb http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/download etch koeln [19:03] meandtheshell (~sa@85.127.102.124) joined #fai. [19:03] dto could use the beta repo... [19:04] yes. [19:05] i'm getting a GPG error ... NO_PUBKEY [19:05] dto: I'm do not understand where and why you like to call fai softupdate? I will not work very well on a system that was not installed using fai. [19:06] my key is: AB9B66FD [19:06] i wanted to use fai to configure the fai server itself [19:07] I thought you like to install an etch system for debugging the unionfs/nfs error [19:08] yes, and i wanted to use fai to configure that system itself (verifying that fai works) [19:08] ok, your debs are working. thanks for that [19:08] i'm doing fai-setup -v [19:09] i'm going to let that run for awhile [19:09] i've got to rest for now [19:10] be back later [19:10] then i will help debug :-) [19:50] itais (~itais@84.79.145.30) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:59] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:12] i-R2D2101 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:19] i-R2D2101 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) joined #fai. [21:32] sepski (~sep@217.17.211.51) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:00] MT: there? [22:00] jap :-) [22:00] MT: could it be that for large partitions msdos disklable is not good? [22:00] yes, I think so [22:00] use gpt [22:00] ich bekomme einen grub error 17 [22:01] wie kann ich denn gpt in shdd2 wählen? [22:01] ich weiß nichts genaues, nur dass einige Leute bei großen Platten schon seit längerem gpt machen [22:01] in der Zeile mit disk_config disk1 und so disklabel:gpt schreiben [22:01] ja, ich habe gerade manuell nach der installation gpt genommen [22:01] sollte klappen [22:02] ist aber untested [22:02] wieder mal ... [22:02] :-) [22:02] und wie kann ich grub ausführen? manuell? [22:02] grub ausführen? [22:02] Du meinst, unabhängig von shdd? [22:02] ja [22:03] mit chroot? [22:03] grub-install --root-directory=/target /dev/deine_platte [22:03] aha [22:03] --no-floppy wär noch gut [22:03] beschleunigt die Sache ein wenig [22:05] das boot:X bedeutet dass die Xte partition die bootpartition ist? [22:05] im shdd2 config file meine ich [22:05] bootable:X [22:05] ? [22:05] ja [22:05] das sagt, dass diese Partition als bootable markiert werden soll [22:05] genau [22:06] ok, neuer versuch :-) [22:06] und in der Version, die Du noch verwendest, auch ein Hinweis, wo grub installiert werden soll [22:06] falls Du ein /boot hast [22:06] genau [22:06] dann war das vermutlich der fehler. die partition hat nicht gestimmt [22:48] MT: ich habe jetzt manuell grub auf sda installiert [22:48] MT: so funktioniert es [22:48] mit shdd nicht? [22:49] MT: aber vorher hat er scheinbar versucht grub auf sdb (auf der auch /boot ist) installiert [22:49] nee, mit shdd (meiner version hier) nicht [22:49] hast Du das bootable:X drin? [22:49] (also für sda) [22:50] auf sda ist nix [22:50] da sind nur daten [22:50] das ist das grosse 7Tbyte raid volumen [22:51] auf sda ist z.Z. noch nicht mal eine partition [22:51] nur eine partitionstabelle [22:51] absicht oder bug? [22:51] nee, das ist absicht. [22:52] wir haben noch nicht entschieden wie die daten genau organisiert werden sollen. [22:54] also demnach sollte grub was in den MBR (oder wie auch immer das bei gpt heißt) von sda schreiben [22:55] aber dann die Sachen von /boot auf sdb nehmen? [22:55] ja, genau [22:55] das ist auch das was passiert wenn man grub auf sda installiert [22:55] das ist die platte die im bios die bootplatte ist [22:55] hmm, sowas hatte ich nie bedacht [22:56] dafür hast du mich :-) [22:56] ich wünschte, es gäbe mehr Tester wie Dich ... [22:57] aber in FAI 3.3 wird das Tool mal reingebaut, wenn auch noch nicht automatisch verwendet [22:57] dann gibt's hoffentlich mehr Tester ... [23:05] hast Du eigentlich noch Sachen geändert die Du nicht eingecheckt hast? [23:06] nee, nix mehr geändert seitdem [23:06] ok, in r4783 hab ich das jetzt gefixt [23:07] es haben sich aber Kleinigkeiten geändert, falls Du es auschecken möchtest [23:07] musst das @INC anpassen [23:07] bzw. siehe wiki [23:07] also die Anleitung oben [23:08] mit den Änderungen von r4783 musst Du jetzt für die sda einfach bootable:1 schreiben [23:08] und da /boot auf sdb liegt, sollte er die BOOT_PARTITION automatisch erkennen [23:09] anleitung von oben? [23:09] sorry :-) [23:09] http://faiwiki.debian.net/index.php/Storage_Magic#Introduction [23:09] also oben auf der wiki Seite [23:09] sorry ... [23:09] ich habe die ganzen perl sachen eh in die perl verzeichnnisse installiert [23:10] ist es das was du meinst? [23:10] ja, und liblinux-lvm-perl musst installieren [23:10] dann sollte es klappen [23:11] cool, dann hast du ja einiges getan daran [23:11] was ist storage magic? [23:12] das ist der neue Name von shdd2 [23:12] lol [23:12] ok [23:12] Mrfai fand shdd2 zu uncool :-) [23:12] :-) [23:12] also viel getan hab ich wirklich nicht [23:12] liblinux-lvm-perl war schnell eingebaut [23:13] (und hat viel Code gespart, danke für den RFP!!!) [23:13] würde das sid paket auch auf etch tun? [23:13] :-) [23:13] ja, tut's [23:13] na super :-) [23:14] ich habe auf dem perl channel noch etwas für das packetieren gelobbiet :-) [23:14] ging ja auch total flott! [23:14] vor dem crash von ftp-master war das Paket sogar schon mal in testing... [23:27] meandtheshell (~sa@85.127.102.124) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [00:00] --- Thu Nov 22 2007