| 00:08 stockholm | eartoast_: ping |
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| 00:32 dto | hello |
| 00:32 dto | i'm going to try fai. |
| 00:33 dto | i am creating a LAN with several nodes, maybe as many as 5 |
| 00:33 dto | each very different in terms of hardware and purpose |
| 00:33 dto | and i want to administer them from a central location, and be able to reinstall cleanly |
| 00:33 dto | i am looking at fai and it seems pretty good.. |
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| 00:35 dto | should my FAI server be the laptop? or the always-on file server that's going in the upstairs closet? |
| 00:35 dto | i'm planning to put it on the big server |
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| 00:49 dto | k |
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| 08:57 stockholm | hat jemand meine mail an die fai-linux liste gesehen? |
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| 09:01 MT | stockholm, wann hast Du die abgeschickt? |
| 09:26 stockholm | MT: gestern abened |
| 09:26 stockholm | nacht |
| 09:26 stockholm | Mrfai: kannst du bitte gucken ob meine mail an fai-linux in der moderation queue ist? |
| 09:26 MT | nie gesehen... |
| 09:26 stockholm | ich habe die extra mit dem richtigen absender geschickt |
| 09:27 stockholm | so dass sie hätte durchgehen sollen. |
| 09:27 stockholm | ok, dann schau ich mal hier ob sie hier noch hängt. |
| 09:29 stockholm | Mrfai: sie hängt hier |
| 09:31 Mrfai | ok |
| 09:37 mikap | Mrfai: regarding the "Mmm. I'm sure softupdate calls task_updatebase, which calls aptitude dist-upgrade." -> I've had a problem with it, don't remember it right now but will recheck it later |
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| 09:46 stockholm | my dns was confused for no good reason |
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| 09:49 stockholm | anyway, now the mail should have gone though :-) |
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| 10:23 lazyb0y | dto: I cannot tell you if the fai server should be the laptop or the big server... |
| 10:24 lazyb0y | but in general, it should obviously not be a machine that might be stolen one day - disabling you from recover either one of the machines still there, not the new laptop you will buy, because you have no install server anymore... |
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| 10:35 su[] | morgen |
| 10:36 su[] | sagt mal, gibt es eine einfache möglichkeit den Header bei der fai-installation auszuschalten, so das ich direkt in der console scrollen kann ? |
| 10:41 lazyb0y | su[]: touch /PATH/TO/NFSROOT/.nocolorlogo |
| 10:43 stockholm | ohhhh! :-) |
| 10:43 su[] | kewl, das finde ich praktisch |
| 10:46 lazyb0y | boese menschen wuenschen sich, dass man das irgendwie ganz wegkonfigurieren kann, dass man das nicht immer nach jedem make-fai-nfsroot machen muss - aber das sind wirklich schlechte menschen, die das schoene bunte logo nicht immer maql wieder sehen wollen :) |
| 10:48 oz_ | oh, es ist nun bunt, und nicht mehr nur rot? :) |
| 10:49 su[] | lazyb0y: vielleicht wäre ein randomizer ganz schön, um diese bösen menschen zu erziehen :-P |
| 10:51 lazyb0y | oz_: naja, das war mehr was fuer version 4 - mit opengl und so... |
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| 11:01 h01ger | lazyb0y, das colorlogo macht teilw echte probleme... |
| 11:01 h01ger | think serielles terminal, think non-i386 |
| 11:02 oz_ | lazyb0y: opengl :=) |
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| 11:20 MT | stockholm, I think you messed up the CC in your reply... |
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| 11:49 stockholm | MT: oh? why? |
| 11:51 stockholm | i remember it looked fine when i sent it |
| 12:14 stockholm | MT: yes, really messed up |
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| 13:19 konrads | Hello. I am experiencing failures for ubuntu feisty FAI install |
| 13:20 konrads | For one, the fai-mirror doesn't work - I had to do some apt-move fsck manually |
| 13:20 konrads | and now it fails on " Failure trying to run /srv/fai ... " mount -t proc proc /proc |
| 13:20 konrads | I checked, and /bin/mount does not exist |
| 13:20 konrads | and then dpkg-divert: cannot open diversion: No such file or directory |
| 13:24 konrads | Hmm, it seems to be an issue with deboostrap |
| 13:25 konrads | running plain deboostrap croaks |
| 13:32 Mrfai | using a debian mirror? Maybe the mirror is broken |
| 13:35 konrads | seems so |
| 13:35 konrads | I hate local stuff. They set up a mirror and yet it breaks! |
| 13:37 Mrfai | i use mkdebmirror to keep my mirror clean. It first syncs to a mirror near by me, then to an official mirror, so I'm sure it in good shape. |
| 13:38 Mrfai | mkdebmirror is part of fai-doc |
| 13:40 konrads | i want a partial mirror |
| 13:44 Mrfai | disk space is cheap :-) |
| 13:45 konrads | my time isn't ;) |
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| 13:53 konrads | same |
| 13:54 konrads | I mirrored from a proper archive |
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| 14:03 kustran | hello |
| 14:03 kustran | :) it's me - again |
| 14:03 kustran | boot from cd with nfsroot works :) |
| 14:04 kustran | boot from usbdrive... |
| 14:05 kustran | in grub: boot=live root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=/srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir NFSOPS="-o nolock,rw" |
| 14:06 kustran | on server I export /srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir (rw) |
| 14:12 Mrfai | kustran: how did you fix your boot problem? |
| 14:13 kustran | read on top |
| 14:13 kustran | that's all |
| 14:13 kustran | nfsroot=/srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir |
| 14:14 Mrfai | so setting the NFSOPTS helped? |
| 14:14 kustran | yes, and path inside /srv/fai/nfsroot |
| 14:15 kustran | this is strange, because boot with PXE work perfect when nfsserver exports only /srv/fai/nfsroot (ro) |
| 14:15 Mrfai | IMO nfsroot=..../live/filesystem.dir is wrong. live-initramfs will do this for you. OR did the debian-live people tell you to do this? |
| 14:16 kustran | no, I recompile initrd.img |
| 14:16 kustran | probably boot=live dasn't work... |
| 14:17 Mrfai | kustran: but then you will get more trouble, because you will not have the unionfs mounted on top of your nfsroot. Or does this happen? |
| 14:18 kustran | in "normal" booting to /root was mounted /srv/fai/nfsroot, so system looping, because he try find sbin/init which is in /root/live/filesystem.dir/sbin... |
| 14:20 konrads | it appears that an apt-get dist-upgrade solved stuff |
| 14:24 kustran | unionfs was not active |
| 14:24 kustran | lsmod|grep unionfs is empty |
| 14:27 Mrfai | kustran: will will have no luck with your installation when unionfs is not working |
| 14:27 kustran | yhm... |
| 14:27 Mrfai | kustran: once again: ask the debian-live guys about your looping error. |
| 14:28 kustran | ok, i try |
| 14:31 konrads | What sort of config I must specify for fai-chboot? |
| 14:34 konrads | nevermind |
| 14:51 konrads | I got an error - no kernel was installed |
| 14:52 kustran | make-fai-nfsroot -v -r |
| 14:55 konrads | Where do I specify default timezone? |
| 15:09 konrads | I managed to install first system, but it is without network configuration |
| 15:10 konrads | dhclient isn't run apparently |
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| 15:14 konrads | /var/run/network/ is missing |
| 15:19 Mrfai | konrads: put your fai.log on paste.debian.net |
| 15:20 konrads | it is installed now |
| 15:21 konrads | but it appears that tmpfs is not available or likes |
| 15:22 konrads | mount point /var/run does not exist, Skipping mount |
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| 15:26 konrads | Mrfai: last paste in paste.debian.net |
| 15:27 konrads | http://paste.debian.net/42990 |
| 15:29 Mrfai | konrads: look all very fine. linux-image.. is installed, without any problems. |
| 15:30 konrads | Right. I updated the package to linux-image-396 from 486 |
| 15:30 konrads | however, now my network won't come up |
| 15:30 Mrfai | aah |
| 15:31 konrads | The first error is that /var/run does not exist |
| 15:32 konrads | /var/run and /var/lock |
| 15:32 Mrfai | no, the first error is that you do not install the dhclient package |
| 15:32 konrads | Well, if i execute /etc/init.d/network restart |
| 15:32 konrads | it works |
| 15:33 Mrfai | MMM. Then this is ubuntu specific. |
| 15:33 Mrfai | so I can't help. But maybe others here. |
| 15:34 konrads | Where could it be locasted, that /var/run mount? |
| 15:37 konrads | I think I solved that, how do I set that FAI installs a specified ssh identity as default for root? |
| 15:37 Mrfai | imo, a tmpfs is mounted on to of it. This can be done in the initrd or later in the init.d scripts. I think I remember there was the difference between dEbian and ubuntu. |
| 15:38 konrads | Mrfai: apparently ubuntu wants /var on root partition :/ |
| 15:38 Mrfai | konrads: so if you have a seperate /var partition, Ubunutu does notworks? Do you have more info (a link) for that? |
| 15:39 Mrfai | s/notworks/not work/ |
| 15:39 konrads | http://www.digizenstudio.com/blog/2007/06/14/watch-out-when-you-move-var-in-ubuntu/ |
| 15:39 konrads | I am reinstalling now |
| 15:39 konrads | without separate /var |
| 15:44 konrads | yup |
| 15:44 konrads | it works now |
| 15:44 Mrfai | stupid ubuntu |
| 15:45 konrads | stupid everything :) |
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| 15:51 konrads | so, how to distrubute the ssh key? |
| 16:08 konrads | How to add another package for installation? |
| 16:09 h01ger | read the fai guide? |
| 16:10 h01ger | distributing secrets is covered in the wiki |
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| 16:20 konrads | When installing, by default FAIBASE is looked up for config? |
| 16:40 dto | hello all |
| 16:45 Mrfai | hi dave |
| 17:05 dto | Mrfai: hehe |
| 17:06 dto | temporarily i will have my laptop as a fai server, and use it to set up the other two machines |
| 17:06 dto | here's the lab i'm gonna run it in: http://dto.freeshell.org/images/ <--- look for x2-preview-000 through -005 |
| 17:07 dto | .jpg |
| 17:13 Mrfai | wow. What will those machines do then for you. Play and compose music? |
| 17:16 dto | we do the composition part---the machines are for recording/processing |
| 17:17 Mrfai | :-) |
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| 17:19 Mrfai | dto: nice environment. I would like to have the FAI questionnaire including som highres pictures when you have finished those installation. Really nice application for FAI. |
| 17:20 dto | sre |
| 17:20 dto | sure |
| 17:20 dto | Mrfai: i'm making a custom debian thing with it |
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| 17:25 Mrfai | mikap: beta13 now has better settings for LOGDIR. |
| 17:25 Mrfai | mikap: using safe-upgrade is also included |
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| 17:35 dto | Mrfai: my focus is on having machines of different types (for now, just one of each type). i guess this is called "classes". i want to be able to rebuild a system just as it was (except for new hardware etc) when one dies |
| 17:37 dto | there's a mini laptop microstudio thing |
| 17:37 dto | a massive mega media server in a shock-mounted rack |
| 17:37 dto | a trusty upstairs closet file/backup/video/server |
| 18:06 mikap | Mrfai: cooooooooooooool |
| 18:08 MT | Mrfai? |
| 18:22 Mrfai | MT: yes. |
| 18:23 MT | hab Dir die Sachen in den 2 E-Mails geschrieben |
| 18:24 Mrfai | yep. Ich wollte die pattern fuer's grep unveraendert lassen. |
| 18:24 Mrfai | also ohne shell.og am anfang zu matchen |
| 18:25 MT | dann muss aber das ^ weg |
| 18:26 Mrfai | oh. ja stimmt. werd ich morgen machen |
| 18:26 MT | danke! |
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