[00:08] eartoast_: ping [00:28] jenny20 (~jenny20@ANantes-257-1-65-105.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #fai. [00:29] jenny20 (~jenny20@ANantes-257-1-65-105.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [00:32] dto (~user@24-183-185-28.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) joined #fai. [00:32] hello [00:32] i'm going to try fai. [00:33] i am creating a LAN with several nodes, maybe as many as 5 [00:33] each very different in terms of hardware and purpose [00:33] and i want to administer them from a central location, and be able to reinstall cleanly [00:33] i am looking at fai and it seems pretty good.. [00:34] liona29 (~liona29@ANantes-257-1-65-105.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #fai. [00:35] should my FAI server be the laptop? or the always-on file server that's going in the upstairs closet? [00:35] i'm planning to put it on the big server [00:36] liona29 (~liona29@ANantes-257-1-65-105.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [00:49] k [01:45] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:46] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) joined #fai. [04:06] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:15] i-R2D276 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) joined #fai. [08:13] itais (~itais@62.81.119.138.static.user.ono.com) joined #fai. [08:43] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [08:57] hat jemand meine mail an die fai-linux liste gesehen? [08:59] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [09:01] stockholm, wann hast Du die abgeschickt? [09:26] MT: gestern abened [09:26] nacht [09:26] Mrfai: kannst du bitte gucken ob meine mail an fai-linux in der moderation queue ist? [09:26] nie gesehen... [09:26] ich habe die extra mit dem richtigen absender geschickt [09:27] so dass sie hätte durchgehen sollen. [09:27] ok, dann schau ich mal hier ob sie hier noch hängt. [09:29] Mrfai: sie hängt hier [09:31] ok [09:37] Mrfai: regarding the "Mmm. I'm sure softupdate calls task_updatebase, which calls aptitude dist-upgrade." -> I've had a problem with it, don't remember it right now but will recheck it later [09:40] Nick change: MT -> Guest1315 [09:40] MT (~MT@ppp-82-135-5-188.dynamic.mnet-online.de) joined #fai. [09:46] my dns was confused for no good reason [09:47] Guest1315 (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [09:49] anyway, now the mail should have gone though :-) [09:51] meandtheshell (~sa@85.127.105.52) joined #fai. [10:01] MT (~MT@ppp-82-135-5-188.dynamic.mnet-online.de) left irc: Quit: MT [10:23] itais (~itais@62.81.119.138.static.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: See you [10:23] dto: I cannot tell you if the fai server should be the laptop or the big server... [10:24] but in general, it should obviously not be a machine that might be stolen one day - disabling you from recover either one of the machines still there, not the new laptop you will buy, because you have no install server anymore... [10:35] su[] (~su@p57B9BF41.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #fai. [10:35] morgen [10:36] sagt mal, gibt es eine einfache möglichkeit den Header bei der fai-installation auszuschalten, so das ich direkt in der console scrollen kann ? [10:41] su[]: touch /PATH/TO/NFSROOT/.nocolorlogo [10:43] ohhhh! :-) [10:43] kewl, das finde ich praktisch [10:46] boese menschen wuenschen sich, dass man das irgendwie ganz wegkonfigurieren kann, dass man das nicht immer nach jedem make-fai-nfsroot machen muss - aber das sind wirklich schlechte menschen, die das schoene bunte logo nicht immer maql wieder sehen wollen :) [10:48] oh, es ist nun bunt, und nicht mehr nur rot? :) [10:49] lazyb0y: vielleicht wäre ein randomizer ganz schön, um diese bösen menschen zu erziehen :-P [10:51] oz_: naja, das war mehr was fuer version 4 - mit opengl und so... [10:52] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [11:01] lazyb0y, das colorlogo macht teilw echte probleme... [11:01] think serielles terminal, think non-i386 [11:02] lazyb0y: opengl :=) [11:13] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:20] stockholm, I think you messed up the CC in your reply... [11:31] itais (~itais@62.81.119.138.static.user.ono.com) joined #fai. [11:45] Nick change: MT -> Guest1322 [11:45] Guest1322 (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:45] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [11:49] MT: oh? why? [11:51] i remember it looked fine when i sent it [12:14] MT: yes, really messed up [12:39] Mrfai (~lange@suenner.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [13:19] konrads (~kstest@195.13.221.114) joined #fai. [13:19] Hello. I am experiencing failures for ubuntu feisty FAI install [13:20] For one, the fai-mirror doesn't work - I had to do some apt-move fsck manually [13:20] and now it fails on " Failure trying to run /srv/fai ... " mount -t proc proc /proc [13:20] I checked, and /bin/mount does not exist [13:20] and then dpkg-divert: cannot open diversion: No such file or directory [13:24] Hmm, it seems to be an issue with deboostrap [13:25] running plain deboostrap croaks [13:32] using a debian mirror? Maybe the mirror is broken [13:35] seems so [13:35] I hate local stuff. They set up a mirror and yet it breaks! [13:37] i use mkdebmirror to keep my mirror clean. It first syncs to a mirror near by me, then to an official mirror, so I'm sure it in good shape. [13:38] mkdebmirror is part of fai-doc [13:40] i want a partial mirror [13:44] disk space is cheap :-) [13:45] my time isn't ;) [13:51] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:52] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [13:53] same [13:54] I mirrored from a proper archive [14:02] itais (~itais@62.81.119.138.static.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: See you [14:03] kustran (~kustran@amq178.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) joined #fai. [14:03] hello [14:03] :) it's me - again [14:03] boot from cd with nfsroot works :) [14:04] boot from usbdrive... [14:05] in grub: boot=live root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=/srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir NFSOPS="-o nolock,rw" [14:06] on server I export /srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir (rw) [14:12] kustran: how did you fix your boot problem? [14:13] read on top [14:13] that's all [14:13] nfsroot=/srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir [14:14] so setting the NFSOPTS helped? [14:14] yes, and path inside /srv/fai/nfsroot [14:15] this is strange, because boot with PXE work perfect when nfsserver exports only /srv/fai/nfsroot (ro) [14:15] IMO nfsroot=..../live/filesystem.dir is wrong. live-initramfs will do this for you. OR did the debian-live people tell you to do this? [14:16] no, I recompile initrd.img [14:16] probably boot=live dasn't work... [14:17] kustran: but then you will get more trouble, because you will not have the unionfs mounted on top of your nfsroot. Or does this happen? [14:18] in "normal" booting to /root was mounted /srv/fai/nfsroot, so system looping, because he try find sbin/init which is in /root/live/filesystem.dir/sbin... [14:20] it appears that an apt-get dist-upgrade solved stuff [14:24] unionfs was not active [14:24] lsmod|grep unionfs is empty [14:27] kustran: will will have no luck with your installation when unionfs is not working [14:27] yhm... [14:27] kustran: once again: ask the debian-live guys about your looping error. [14:28] ok, i try [14:31] What sort of config I must specify for fai-chboot? [14:34] nevermind [14:51] I got an error - no kernel was installed [14:52] make-fai-nfsroot -v -r [14:55] Where do I specify default timezone? [15:09] I managed to install first system, but it is without network configuration [15:10] dhclient isn't run apparently [15:11] Lin (~igor@189.25.167.47) joined #fai. [15:11] Lin (~igor@189.25.167.47) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:11] itais (~itais@84.79.145.30) joined #fai. [15:14] /var/run/network/ is missing [15:19] konrads: put your fai.log on paste.debian.net [15:20] it is installed now [15:21] but it appears that tmpfs is not available or likes [15:22] mount point /var/run does not exist, Skipping mount [15:24] su[] (~su@p57B9BF41.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: bin raus hier [15:26] Mrfai: last paste in paste.debian.net [15:27] http://paste.debian.net/42990 [15:29] konrads: look all very fine. linux-image.. is installed, without any problems. [15:30] Right. I updated the package to linux-image-396 from 486 [15:30] however, now my network won't come up [15:30] aah [15:31] The first error is that /var/run does not exist [15:32] /var/run and /var/lock [15:32] no, the first error is that you do not install the dhclient package [15:32] Well, if i execute /etc/init.d/network restart [15:32] it works [15:33] MMM. Then this is ubuntu specific. [15:33] so I can't help. But maybe others here. [15:34] Where could it be locasted, that /var/run mount? [15:37] I think I solved that, how do I set that FAI installs a specified ssh identity as default for root? [15:37] imo, a tmpfs is mounted on to of it. This can be done in the initrd or later in the init.d scripts. I think I remember there was the difference between dEbian and ubuntu. [15:38] Mrfai: apparently ubuntu wants /var on root partition :/ [15:38] konrads: so if you have a seperate /var partition, Ubunutu does notworks? Do you have more info (a link) for that? [15:39] s/notworks/not work/ [15:39] http://www.digizenstudio.com/blog/2007/06/14/watch-out-when-you-move-var-in-ubuntu/ [15:39] I am reinstalling now [15:39] without separate /var [15:44] yup [15:44] it works now [15:44] stupid ubuntu [15:45] stupid everything :) [15:48] Nick change: MT -> Guest1344 [15:48] Guest1344 (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:48] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [15:51] so, how to distrubute the ssh key? [16:08] How to add another package for installation? [16:09] read the fai guide? [16:10] distributing secrets is covered in the wiki [16:13] kustran (~kustran@amq178.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:20] When installing, by default FAIBASE is looked up for config? [16:40] hello all [16:45] hi dave [17:05] Mrfai: hehe [17:06] temporarily i will have my laptop as a fai server, and use it to set up the other two machines [17:06] here's the lab i'm gonna run it in: http://dto.freeshell.org/images/ <--- look for x2-preview-000 through -005 [17:07] .jpg [17:13] wow. What will those machines do then for you. Play and compose music? [17:16] we do the composition part---the machines are for recording/processing [17:17] :-) [17:17] konrads (~kstest@195.13.221.114) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:19] dto: nice environment. I would like to have the FAI questionnaire including som highres pictures when you have finished those installation. Really nice application for FAI. [17:20] sre [17:20] sure [17:20] Mrfai: i'm making a custom debian thing with it [17:21] meandtheshell (~sa@85.127.105.52) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:25] mikap: beta13 now has better settings for LOGDIR. [17:25] mikap: using safe-upgrade is also included [17:32] sepski (~sep@217.17.211.51) joined #fai. [17:34] Mrfai (~lange@suenner.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:34] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [17:35] Mrfai: my focus is on having machines of different types (for now, just one of each type). i guess this is called "classes". i want to be able to rebuild a system just as it was (except for new hardware etc) when one dies [17:37] there's a mini laptop microstudio thing [17:37] a massive mega media server in a shock-mounted rack [17:37] a trusty upstairs closet file/backup/video/server [18:06] Mrfai: cooooooooooooool [18:08] Mrfai? [18:22] MT: yes. [18:23] hab Dir die Sachen in den 2 E-Mails geschrieben [18:24] yep. Ich wollte die pattern fuer's grep unveraendert lassen. [18:24] also ohne shell.og am anfang zu matchen [18:25] dann muss aber das ^ weg [18:26] oh. ja stimmt. werd ich morgen machen [18:26] danke! [18:40] itais (~itais@84.79.145.30) left irc: Quit: See you [18:50] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [18:58] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:58] MT (~MT@ppp-88-217-2-31.dynamic.mnet-online.de) joined #fai. [20:06] ColdFire (~coldfire@router.linux-guru.ch) joined #fai. [20:06] MT (~MT@ppp-88-217-2-31.dynamic.mnet-online.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [20:14] ColdFire (~coldfire@router.linux-guru.ch) left irc: Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de [21:12] sep (~sep@40.211.jostedal.no) left irc: Server closed connection [21:12] sep (~sep@40.211.jostedal.no) joined #fai. 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