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| 10:04 h01ger | Mrfai, "dpkg -l live-initramfs" is not enough to check properly if the package is installed? it should be |
| 10:04 h01ger | +moin moin :) |
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| 11:07 Mrfai | h01ger: yes, it is. But lazyb0y sayd it should be checked before installing it. |
| 11:14 h01ger | why that? |
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| 13:18 Mrfai | lazyb0y: ich hoffe der letzte commit hilft bei deinem error. Ist es ok so? |
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| 13:55 lazyb0y | Mrfai: ja, sieht schonmal ein bisschen besser aus. |
| 13:55 lazyb0y | richtig geil und zeitsparend waere es natuerlich, wenn gleich nachdem der versuch luve.initramfs zu installieren, gescheitert ist, das ganze mit Fehler stoppen wuerde - denn alle andere hat dann auch keinen sinn mehr. |
| 13:56 lazyb0y | aber da es normalerweise, wenn jemand die stable version in lenny benutzt, diese problem so nicht so ganz geben kann, kann man es vielleicht vernachlaessigen |
| 13:56 lazyb0y | hmm, oder will man nicht vielleicht immer, dass make-fai-nfsroot sofort abbricht, wenn es irgendwelche probleme beim software-installieren gibt? |
| 14:02 lazyb0y | Mrfai, h01ger: I don't know exactly what experimental is for, but it sounds reasonable to use debian archives where possible. What is the downside / the counter-argument against using experimental? |
| 14:03 MT | lazyb0y, I think the downside is that experimental is not a comprehensive repository |
| 14:03 MT | it's rather an extension to unstable |
| 14:04 MT | even more so in case of FAI, where people should be able to test the latest-greates beta using their !etch! systems |
| 14:04 h01ger | MT, but in the case of fai you can just have etch and experimental in your sources.list |
| 14:05 MT | well, if you use apt-pinning, yes |
| Action: h01ger doesnt know of a downside of experimental. (well, besides that it's *experimental* packages :) |
| 14:05 MT | otherwise you might end up with some experimental packages |
| 14:06 h01ger | hmm. doesnt work: live-initramfs is not in experimental as we'd like it |
| 14:06 MT | yes, that's another point for using a private repo |
| 14:06 MT | that then contains these packages |
| 14:08 lazyb0y | hmm, I just think: when we put stuff into experimental (instead of, not in addition to our unstable repo), people must configure pinning etc, and/or risk getting non-fai related stuff updated with unstable packages... |
| 14:08 lazyb0y | maybe both would be o.k. and good, if thomas doesn#t mind to add another line to it's build-and-upload-scripts |
| 14:09 lazyb0y | (and I could have read the thing I thought some lines above :) ) |
| 14:14 h01ger | so, upload to unstable more often ;) |
| 14:16 lazyb0y | i was thinking of the fai unstable repo |
| 14:17 lazyb0y | the good thing about our own repo is really that people can test FAI only, on Etch, without the risk of "polluting" their system with other unstable stuff |
| 14:20 h01ger | the good thing about the debian repo is packages(.qa).debian.org where you can read the changelog, track bugs and generally have more testers |
| 14:21 h01ger | unstable is expected to be, well, unstable :) if you cannot deal with breakage, dont install beta versions. |
| 14:35 Mrfai | for now I will stuck with my unstable repro. |
| 14:36 Mrfai | Mmm. install_packages can not report errors properly , if aptitude does not do it at all :-( |
| 14:37 Mrfai | for e.g. aptitude install thispackagedoesnotexist ; echo $? = 0 |
| 14:37 Mrfai | This makes repoting errors in FAI to the users hard |
| 14:38 Mrfai | Anyway. I think FAI 3.2.2 can be released tomorrow. Any comments? |
| 14:39 Mrfai | mikap: when is your deadline for including FAI into grml 1.1? |
| 14:54 MT | Mrfai, the new LOGDIR thing ... |
| 14:54 MT | I'd really love to see my note on the proposal to be integrated |
| 16:10 Mrfai | MT: but then some links are created in fai itself, some are created by fai-savelog. Mmm. I don't know. Do you have a patch? |
| 16:11 MT | not yet, but I could try to come up with a patch |
| 16:13 MT | h01ger, did you notice that you misspelled unreproduible in the mail to the BTS? |
| 16:13 MT | argh, I misspelled it as well :-) |
| 16:13 h01ger | MT, Mrfai (& me) already fixed that :) |
| 16:13 MT | you wrote unreproducable, but it should read unreproducible |
| 16:13 h01ger | oh |
| 16:14 h01ger | maybe, dunno, whatever -> thanks |
| 16:14 MT | at least the web-frontend still claims #443198: make fai and the simple examples work with dash to be tagged unreproducible |
| 16:14 MT | I think you intended to remove this tag |
| 16:14 h01ger | yes |
| 16:15 h01ger | did you send a mail to control now? |
| 16:15 MT | nope, I wasn't sure whether you had done that already |
| 16:15 h01ger | ok, doing so now |
| 16:15 MT | as sometimes the BTS is pretty slow in processing mails ... |
| 16:15 MT | thx! |
| 16:15 h01ger | a ti! |
| 16:19 MT | lazyb0y, I think I have fixed most of the things you suggested in your test report |
| 16:20 MT | thanks a lot for the extensive report!! |
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| 17:29 lazyb0y | MT: I saw some things in the wiki - I also added the hint where to find the lvm perl stuff today |
| 17:29 MT | jep, thanks! |
| 17:29 lazyb0y | I will try to look at it again these days, not sure when I can make it... |
| 17:29 lazyb0y | playing around with google ganeti for xen... |
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| 22:34 mikap | how about support for aptitude safe-upgrade in /usr/lib/fai/updatebase? any objections? |
| 22:35 mikap | if strings $target/usr/bin/aptitude | grep safe-upgrade ; .... => from one of my scripts in grml-live |
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