[08:28] alleeHol (~ach@dialin-145-254-254-156.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #fai. [09:57] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [10:04] Mrfai, "dpkg -l live-initramfs" is not enough to check properly if the package is installed? it should be [10:04] +moin moin :) [10:29] alleeHol (~ach@dialin-145-254-254-156.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:07] h01ger: yes, it is. But lazyb0y sayd it should be checked before installing it. [11:14] why that? [11:43] meandtheshell (~sa@85.127.115.173) joined #fai. [12:38] i-R2D284 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:07] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) joined #fai. [13:18] lazyb0y: ich hoffe der letzte commit hilft bei deinem error. Ist es ok so? [13:23] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:25] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) joined #fai. [13:30] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [13:55] Mrfai: ja, sieht schonmal ein bisschen besser aus. [13:55] richtig geil und zeitsparend waere es natuerlich, wenn gleich nachdem der versuch luve.initramfs zu installieren, gescheitert ist, das ganze mit Fehler stoppen wuerde - denn alle andere hat dann auch keinen sinn mehr. [13:56] aber da es normalerweise, wenn jemand die stable version in lenny benutzt, diese problem so nicht so ganz geben kann, kann man es vielleicht vernachlaessigen [13:56] hmm, oder will man nicht vielleicht immer, dass make-fai-nfsroot sofort abbricht, wenn es irgendwelche probleme beim software-installieren gibt? [14:02] Mrfai, h01ger: I don't know exactly what experimental is for, but it sounds reasonable to use debian archives where possible. What is the downside / the counter-argument against using experimental? [14:03] lazyb0y, I think the downside is that experimental is not a comprehensive repository [14:03] it's rather an extension to unstable [14:04] even more so in case of FAI, where people should be able to test the latest-greates beta using their !etch! systems [14:04] MT, but in the case of fai you can just have etch and experimental in your sources.list [14:05] well, if you use apt-pinning, yes [14:05] Action: h01ger doesnt know of a downside of experimental. (well, besides that it's *experimental* packages :) [14:05] otherwise you might end up with some experimental packages [14:06] hmm. doesnt work: live-initramfs is not in experimental as we'd like it [14:06] yes, that's another point for using a private repo [14:06] that then contains these packages [14:08] hmm, I just think: when we put stuff into experimental (instead of, not in addition to our unstable repo), people must configure pinning etc, and/or risk getting non-fai related stuff updated with unstable packages... [14:08] maybe both would be o.k. and good, if thomas doesn#t mind to add another line to it's build-and-upload-scripts [14:09] (and I could have read the thing I thought some lines above :) ) [14:14] so, upload to unstable more often ;) [14:16] i was thinking of the fai unstable repo [14:17] the good thing about our own repo is really that people can test FAI only, on Etch, without the risk of "polluting" their system with other unstable stuff [14:20] the good thing about the debian repo is packages(.qa).debian.org where you can read the changelog, track bugs and generally have more testers [14:21] unstable is expected to be, well, unstable :) if you cannot deal with breakage, dont install beta versions. [14:35] for now I will stuck with my unstable repro. [14:36] Mmm. install_packages can not report errors properly , if aptitude does not do it at all :-( [14:37] for e.g. aptitude install thispackagedoesnotexist ; echo $? = 0 [14:37] This makes repoting errors in FAI to the users hard [14:38] Anyway. I think FAI 3.2.2 can be released tomorrow. Any comments? [14:39] mikap: when is your deadline for including FAI into grml 1.1? [14:54] Mrfai, the new LOGDIR thing ... [14:54] I'd really love to see my note on the proposal to be integrated [16:10] MT: but then some links are created in fai itself, some are created by fai-savelog. Mmm. I don't know. Do you have a patch? [16:11] not yet, but I could try to come up with a patch [16:13] h01ger, did you notice that you misspelled unreproduible in the mail to the BTS? [16:13] argh, I misspelled it as well :-) [16:13] MT, Mrfai (& me) already fixed that :) [16:13] you wrote unreproducable, but it should read unreproducible [16:13] oh [16:14] maybe, dunno, whatever -> thanks [16:14] at least the web-frontend still claims #443198: make fai and the simple examples work with dash to be tagged unreproducible [16:14] I think you intended to remove this tag [16:14] yes [16:15] did you send a mail to control now? [16:15] nope, I wasn't sure whether you had done that already [16:15] ok, doing so now [16:15] as sometimes the BTS is pretty slow in processing mails ... [16:15] thx! [16:15] a ti! [16:19] lazyb0y, I think I have fixed most of the things you suggested in your test report [16:20] thanks a lot for the extensive report!! [16:57] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:29] MT: I saw some things in the wiki - I also added the hint where to find the lvm perl stuff today [17:29] jep, thanks! [17:29] I will try to look at it again these days, not sure when I can make it... [17:29] playing around with google ganeti for xen... [17:40] alleeHol (~ach@dialin-212-144-131-133.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #fai. [17:40] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [17:46] su[] (~su@p54BD7ADF.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #fai. [17:55] su[] (~su@p54BD7ADF.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/ [19:00] alleeHol (~ach@dialin-212-144-131-133.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [19:31] allee (~ach@dialin-145-254-253-187.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #fai. [19:32] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [19:40] allee (~ach@dialin-145-254-253-187.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [20:51] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:52] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [21:04] meandtheshell (~sa@85.127.115.173) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:48] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [22:34] how about support for aptitude safe-upgrade in /usr/lib/fai/updatebase? any objections? [22:35] if strings $target/usr/bin/aptitude | grep safe-upgrade ; .... => from one of my scripts in grml-live [23:14] allee (~ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de) joined #fai. [00:00] --- Mon Nov 19 2007