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[09:03] VattaFarI (~VattaFarI@p57BDC85F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: [09:10] jcastang (~jcastng__@laptop-147-210-128-115.labri.fr) joined #fai. [09:10] hello [09:20] jcastang (~jcastng__@laptop-147-210-128-115.labri.fr) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [09:53] jcastang (~jcastng__@laptop-147-210-128-115.labri.fr) joined #fai. [09:54] on ubuntu 7.04, fai installer is not working when updating packages list, it returns "No space left on device" any idea ? [09:55] jcastang: what does 'df' tell you? [09:56] i can't take the shell [09:56] doing "CTRL-C" reboots the machine [09:56] on the client? why not? [09:56] just press enter [09:56] oh, no [09:57] "enter" does nothing [10:09] jcastang: I think your /var partition is too small [10:10] Ok, I'll have a look at it [10:10] at this time var size is 2go [10:14] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:14] Mrfai (~lange@suenner.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [10:34] meandtheshell (~sa@85.127.108.226) joined #fai. [10:39] Nick change: MT -> Guest747 [10:39] Guest747 (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:39] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [10:43] jcastang: hmm, that doesn't sound too small... [10:44] jcastang: sometime, there are troubles with the mounting of the target system, and when then fai fails to stop the install immediately (it does not stop on such occasions normally, but we are working on this), it installs until the ramdisk is full [10:44] su[] (~su@p57B9C2E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: bin raus hier [10:46] on the server it says that a client is mounting the NFSROOT, but it doesn't say if this is ok on the client, so there might be a problem mounting NFSROOT on the client, and working on the ramdisk until it's full [10:52] jcastang: the packages aren't installed in the nfsroot :) [10:52] they are installed onto the local doisk [10:52] ah yes ! [10:53] so why does it says "disk full"... [10:53] apart from that, as opposed to not stopping when problems with mounting the target fs, FAI does not work at all when nfs root mounting or configspace fails :) [10:53] as I said: you should check, if the target fs is really mounted [10:53] first you need to get a shell [10:54] where is mounted the hard drive ? [10:54] there are some boot options you can set to get that (I haven't them at hand and cannot search now) [10:54] /tmp/target [10:54] ok [10:54] as I understood you, you don't get a shell yet - you need that first, to check the /tmp/target [10:55] on newer fai versions, since 3.2 it's /target, AFAIK [10:55] any way - you will see if you have any mount with target in the name, or not [10:57] how much memory (min) the client must be ? [10:58] jcastang: you mean disk? [10:59] that depends on how much packages aou are installing [10:59] for ram it should be quite minimal [11:00] 64 is a fair value were stuff works out nice, it should work with less, but with less fun, and I don't know an exact minimal barier [11:00] Action: oz_ did far on 16/32MB Ram boxes [11:00] Action: oz_ did FAI on 16/32MB Ram boxes [11:00] typo, sorry. [11:01] I'm installing desktop computers (with gnome, openoffice, all ubuntu-desktop). I tried with 256Mo and it doesn't work. [11:01] jcastang: what "doesn't work"? [11:02] Now I'm trying with 512Mo, it seems to work (no disk full messages a the moment, but it's not finished) [11:02] I don't think that RAM above 64 is a problem when installing [11:02] jcastang: ??? [11:02] you think using 512 MB RAM instead of 256 explains the non-existance of a disk-full message? [11:03] you know that ram is not hard disk, right? [11:03] I don't know but I just change this, and now I don't get the disk full... [11:03] yeah I know ! ;) [11:03] jcastang: just, for how long? [11:04] with the problem I explained to you, the install is going to the ramdisk - that means, you can install until the 512 (or a part of it) are filled, then the (ram)disk will be queally full [11:05] Yes I know, I'm trying to get a console on the install client to check /target [11:05] I'm sure /target is not mounted [11:05] :) [11:05] I wan't to verify [11:05] the fai guide should tell you, which fai flag you need to get a shell - IIRC something like adding the fai flag createvt [11:06] I used sshd flags [11:06] Hu !? I found the problem [11:07] add the createvt flag, too [11:07] jcastang: what is it? [11:07] hda disk not mounted at all [11:07] using 'df', I can't find the hard drive on the list [11:08] NFSROOT in mounted on /live/image [11:08] there are some unionfs and tmpfs mount points [11:09] but no hard drive on /target [11:09] jcastang: so, you're using fai 3.2.x [11:09] taht's the new nfsroot, using loive helper to be comatible with the fai-cd/usb [11:10] still, look at the logs to see why the mount gfailed [11:10] please paste some log file to paste.debian.net. That makes debugging much easier [11:11] yes ! found it [11:12] "unknown filesystem type ext3" <-- some modules are missing [11:12] haha [11:12] jcastang: hmm, does the nfsroot have the modules for the kernel you are staring with? [11:12] you need extra modules for the ubuntu kernel [11:12] I guess the nfsroot is not build properly, or you kernel does not match to the module in the nfsroot [11:13] that's it [11:13] dmesg.log would help us a lot now [11:14] just a uname and looking in the kernel modules dir in the nfsroot is enough, probably :) [11:17] VattaFarI (~chatzilla@p57BDC85F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #fai. [11:17] so guys, I'm going to eat, I'll be back in one hour (i hope) [11:31] VattaFarI (~chatzilla@p57BDC85F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.9/2007102514] [12:05] marius (~marius@f054167156.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined #fai. [12:05] mittag [12:06] hat jemand erfahrung mit der erstellung ines gfxboot-theme's? [12:13] marius: as ist das? [12:13] was [12:15] grub-gfxboot deb findest du in den repo das ist ein animierter grub bildschirm sieht wirklich schick aus [12:15] passende themes gibt es zum bsp bei gnome-look einfach mal nach gfx suchen [12:16] nur finde ich kein schones theme für debian also wollt ich mir selber eins machen [12:18] nur weiß ich nicht wie ich eins erstellen kann auf der seite http://www.andreas-loibl.de/content/linux/tutorials/grub-gfxboot/index.html gibt es ein veraltetes howt to das bei mir leider nicht funzt [12:19] nun wollt ich mal fragen ob das schon jemand gemacht hat [12:27] marius: ich sehe bloss nicht, was das mit FAI zu tun haben soll... [12:29] oh sorry falscher channel tut mir leid hab nicht aufgepasst [12:48] marius (marius@f054167156.adsl.alicedsl.de) left #fai (Verlassend). [12:55] I'am back fai working ;) [12:56] It's now installing software on the client hard drive (not in ram) [12:59] jcastang: how do you fixed your problem? [12:59] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:00] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [13:02] Mrfai: "chroot" to NFSROOT and install "linux-image" [13:03] maybe we can fixe this adding "linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic" to /etc/fai/NFSROOT [13:03] ?? [13:03] kernel modules where missing as it was not installed in NFSROOT [13:05] but now I get another error, after installing correctly packages on the client, fai installer failed calling "fai-chboot" [13:06] but "fai-chboot" is not only to prepare tftp boot on the server ? [13:09] jcastang: fai-chboot is called from the client on the server, to tell him, that the server should change the pxe configuration. This only works if LOGUSER is set and set up properly. (ssh keys). [13:09] if this fails, the next network boot would restat the installation again. [13:09] hi, is there a workaround to start a dhcp client at the fai diskless installation system [13:12] ebbie: please specify more details [13:13] and if I don't want the client to do fai-chboot ? [13:15] write a hook that skipts task_chboot. [13:15] s/skipts/skips/ [13:18] but how we can specify "skip this task" ? [13:22] go to the FAI web page, there you can search the whole FAI guide. Search for skiptask [13:22] ok [13:24] found ! thanks ;) [13:31] Mrfai: sorry, phone [13:32] Mrfai: i got problems with the shoert lease time in our network [13:36] Mrfai: some clients did not finish installation, the lease ends and DNS delete the entry [13:36] Mrfai: in this case the diskless client freeze [13:37] Mrfai: i gues there is no dhcp client on the diskless client [13:38] Mrfai: that renew the lease on dhcp-server [13:42] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:43] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [13:44] ebbie: there's no dhclient running during the installation. We call dhclient in the very beginnin and then set the ntwork parameters to a static value. You should increase the lease time for those clients if possible. [13:44] It will not work to change the IP address during isntallation, when your whole file system is mounted via NFS. [13:48] Mrfai: i know the problem [13:48] Mrfai: maybe somebody got an workaround [13:48] Mrfai: i can not increase the lease time in our network [13:53] Mrfai: mayybe i can start a dhcp client, take the "lease" form the dhclient at boot time [13:53] ebbie: you can write a hook which calls dhclient. Maybe this helps [13:54] FAI calls dhclient without saving the lease file (using /dev/null) [13:54] Mrfai: but the problem is that dhcp normal at start take the interface down [13:54] Mrfai: then i got a problem with my nfsroot [13:54] Mrfai: so it is a bit tricky [13:55] will dhcp also take the interface down when it tries to renew the lease? [13:55] no then not [13:55] ok. then have a lok at lib/get-boot-info (inside the nfsroot) [13:56] patch it, to use a lease file instead of /dev/null [13:57] ok, then i have to look to start the dhcp client with the lease from the boot time [14:00] or just remove the "killall dhclient" call from get-boot-info [14:00] I think that should work [14:00] that sounds good [14:00] camgirl29 (~camgirl29@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr) joined #fai. [14:00] i try it [14:00] and report the result [14:00] thx [14:00] please post the results to the linux-fai mailing list [14:01] is the list adress on the homepage? [14:02] camgirl29 (~camgirl29@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr) left irc: [14:03] sure [14:03] in which area can i put the lease file? [14:04] for example /tmp , but now the whole nfsroot is writeable on the install client via unionfs. So just use the normal directory. [14:08] from which version on? [14:09] 3.2 [14:09] i got fai from debian stable [14:09] version 3.1.8 [14:09] that's 3.1.8 [14:09] therefore i try to use /tmp [14:09] thx [14:29] antares (~antares@194.254.163.24) joined #fai. [14:39] antares: which kernel is running on your install clients during installation? [14:42] There was a transit strike in Paris, I will go tomorrow [14:43] antares (~antares@194.254.163.24) left irc: Quit: Kopete 0.12.2 : http://kopete.kde.org [15:26] kustran (~kustran@amq178.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) joined #fai. [15:26] hello [15:29] i have another problem: when I boot from cd with changed line in grub: kernel vmlinuz ip=dhcp root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=192.168.1.1:/srv/fai/nfsroot boot=live FAI_FLAGS=verbose,sshd,createvt FAI_ACTION=install, system bootup, but stops when try mount nfs: mount: Device or resource busy - any sugestion? [15:30] showmount -e faiserver [15:30] Export list for faiserver: [15:30] /srv/fai/config 192.168.1.101/255.255.255.0 [15:30] /srv/fai/nfsroot 192.168.1.101/255.255.255.0 [15:30] all C class can mount share [15:31] do you get a shell prompt from the initrd? [15:31] no [15:32] wait, i try ctrl+c [15:32] no [15:32] there seems to be a break option for live-initramfs. I did not use it yet. [15:33] i see IP-Config: eth0..... DHCP [15:33] address: 192.168.1.101 broadcast etc. [15:33] host: demohost [15:34] domain: beowulf [15:34] can you see the mount request on your isntall server? [15:34] showmount [15:34] Hosts on pld01029: [15:34] 192.168.1.101 [15:34] do not export the nfsroot and see if you then get a shell prompt on the isntall client [15:34] but in syslog i have ountd[10598]: authenticated mount request from 192.168.1.101:900 for /srv/fai/nfsroot (/srv/fai/nfsroot) [15:35] ok, [15:37] retrying nfsmount in loop..... [15:37] NFS over tcp not available from 192.168.1.1 [15:37] still looping [15:38] IP-Config, /scripts/nfs-premount and again [15:39] your nfs server does not support NFS over tcp. Check with rpcinfo -p serverhostname [15:39] you should see line like this: 100003 2 tcp 2049 nfs 100003 3 tcp 2049 nfs [15:39] oop, these are two line [15:39] pld01029:/srv/tftp/fai/pxelinux.cfg# rpcinfo -p faiserver [15:39] program vers proto port [15:39] 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper [15:39] 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper [15:39] 391002 2 tcp 865 sgi_fam [15:39] 100024 1 udp 33498 status [15:39] 100024 1 tcp 35536 status [15:40] but wait, now i turn off nfs-kernel-server [15:40] do not post all lines here! [15:40] ok, sorry [15:42] http://paste.debian.net/42505 [15:42] looks good [15:43] yhm... [15:43] I can mount /srv/fai/nfsroot from other pc [15:44] mount -t nfs 192.168.1.1:/srv/fai/nfsroot /mnt/tmp works [15:44] sure, it's a problem on the install client [15:44] i see live/ in mounted share [15:44] ?? [15:44] /mnt/tmp/live/.... [15:45] on "normal" pc [15:45] ok, i have shell [15:45] what now? [15:45] (initramfs) [15:46] another question: durring the installation of my client, hard drive is detected as "hda" but after restarting disk is detected as "sda" (so it won't boot) [15:46] have you encountered this problem yet ? [15:46] you can use the nfsmount command to mount the nfsroot. Mount it to /root IIRC. [15:46] jcastang: are you using differnet kernel during installation and for the new system? [15:47] mrfai: mount: Device or resource busy [15:47] yes, because I'm tryng to setup ubuntu 7.10 from 7.04 (as someone told me to do here) [15:47] short read [15:47] 0 <28 [15:50] hm... [15:50] ooh. this short read beast again. [15:50] We had this before. very strange. [15:50] I can't mount to /root so i try mount it to /tmp and it work's [15:50] kustran, I've got the same problem... Have you got a directory named "live" in NFSROOT ?? [15:51] in /tmp I see live/ now [15:51] yes, I have [15:51] cd /tmp [15:51] and what is your kernel version ? [15:51] ups, not this keyboard :) [15:51] on faiserver 2.6.22 [15:52] kustran: maybe network problems. [15:52] on demohost (nfs) 2.6.18-5 [15:52] I got the same problem using ubuntu 7.10 kernel (wich does not work for me with fai) [15:52] mrfai: impossible, terminal connected with crosscable to faiserver [15:53] i can mount to /tmp point but i can't to /root ... [15:53] strange [15:53] short read error: http://marc.info/?l=xen-users&m=119115468314196&w=2 [15:54] because the nfs dir your trying to mount does not contain a root structure (with directories like var boot, usr....) [15:54] there's also a fix for that. Read next in thread [15:54] i try witg rsize and wsize ... [15:54] I read this thread [15:54] maybe your not pointing on the good directory [15:55] hm... [15:56] maybe I must change /srv/fai/nfsroot to /srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir/ in /etc/exportfs? [15:56] yes but using boot=live should work to [15:56] maybe permission is wrong? [15:57] or your "live" option in your kernel is broken [15:57] chmod, chown ... [15:57] booting from pxe works ... [15:57] I had problems like that with 2.6.22 kernel [15:57] from cd/usb not... [15:57] but not all my terminal have bootprom's [15:58] so I must use pendrive to boot few of them [15:59] sorry for my english [15:59] my english is poor to, due to french-touch ;) [15:59] is there a simple way to force fai to do a 32 bits install on a 64 bits machine? i can't seem to find any easy way [16:00] short read error: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/19196 [16:00] it's about timing [16:01] Bokeh: boot a 32bit kernel [16:07] installing 7.04 ubuntu with fai, after reboot network can't bring up saying "/var/run/network/ifstate : No such a file or directory" did I forgot some packages ? [16:08] just boot a 32bit kernel? that should do it? [16:09] i-R2D284 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:09] Bokeh: I think yes [16:09] ok, i'll give that a try [16:18] mrfai: when my terminal boot's i've see rootpath: empty ... [16:18] maybe this is problem? [16:18] filename is ok: pxelinux.0 [16:19] rootpath empty is fine. [16:21] This is the head of my live.log: http://paste.debian.net/42511 [16:23] I try boot from PXE again [16:23] and check log's [16:23] boot from PXE works perfect [16:26] /usr/lib/fai/subroutines-linux: eval: line 41 unexpected EOF while matching ```` [16:26] but install working [16:27] i-R2D284 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) joined #fai. [16:27] kustran: what does cat /proc/cmdline say? [16:28] heh.. plenty of ... :) [16:28] wait [16:30] initrd=initrd.img-2.6.18-5-486 ip=dhcp root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=/src/fai/nfsrot boot=live FAI_FLAGS=verbose,sshd, createvt FAI_ACTION=install NFSOPTS="-o nolock,udp,retrans=10,wsize=8192,rsize=8192" BOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-486 [16:30] uff.. :) [16:32] ok the " seems to cause the syntax error. And there are multiple = in the same part that gets evaluated [16:32] but for now. Just ognore it. [16:33] ErKa (keryell@wifi-225-205.sc07.org) joined #fai. [16:33] rest seems to be ok [16:33] they download now packages from repositories [16:43] vmlinuz in /boot and /live/filesystem.dir/boot are identically [16:43] on cd [16:45] boot from cd, grub with parameters from PXE and still looping with mount: Device or resource busy [16:45] short read dissapears [16:46] maybe can I add sleep 1 to any script? [16:46] use tcp but increase retrans. People suggested to add a sleep 3 or even more [16:46] mount show me 192.168.1.1:/srv... mounted to /root [16:47] and i see live/ inside [16:47] IO think the mount is fine, but then reading from there causes short read. [16:47] s/IO/I [16:48] mount show me (ro,vers=3,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,hard,nolock,proto=udp,timeo=7,retrans=10,sec=sys,addr=192.168.1.1) [16:54] when I boot from PXE mount show me unionfs on / (rw, dirs=cow=rw:/live/image/live/filesystems.dir=nfsroot,debug=...,delete=whiteout) [17:00] jcastang (~jcastng__@laptop-147-210-128-115.labri.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:06] I try create bootfloppy but have error: ls: /srv/fai/nfsroot/boot/vmlinu?-*: No such file or directory [17:10] maybe this is problem? [17:10] make-fai-bootfloppy is broken in FAI 3.2.1. It will not work. Don't use it. [17:11] now I change NFSROOT in /etc/fai/make-fai-nfsroot.conf to NFSROOT=/srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir/ [17:12] no,no,no [17:12] ok... [17:20] is possible to "extract" pxeconfig.0 to pendrive ? [17:21] pxelinux.0 is for network booting. IMO it does not help to put it onto a usb stick. [17:23] yes, i know but slowly losing expectation [17:23] :) [17:24] kustran: did you increase the retrans parameter? did you add a sleep into the inintrd? did you forced tcp for nfs? [17:24] more than 10? [17:25] update-initrd? in chroot? [17:26] or insert sleep as parameter to grub line... [17:26] increasing timeo maybe helps more [17:26] sleep in grub makes no sense [17:27] as NFSOPTS parameter or some ... [17:36] timeo=20, tcp, retrans=20 - still looping [17:38] and doing nfsmount from the initramfs shell prompt works? [17:38] http://paste.debian.net/42521 [17:38] is this normal? [17:39] discover ip every 2 sec.? [17:39] does nfsmount from initramfs shell prompt works? [17:40] I waiting for shell [17:40] ok [17:40] nfsmount ip:/path /root ? [17:40] with any parameters? [17:41] read /var/log/live.log [17:41] ok [17:41] there you see which parameters are used normally [17:41] yhm [17:41] btw. I alsways forgett. Which kernel are you using? version and is it ubuntu? [17:42] Mrfai: hi! I don't see any patches regarding my bugreports (and their patches) inside current svn of fai yet :( no news? [17:44] mikap: I think I fixed two bugs. I tag the svn-trunk if they are fixed in svn trunk [17:44] Mrfai: ah! :) [17:44] on server? debian with 2.6.22 [17:45] kustran: thanks [17:45] mikap: I was thinking of testing fai dirinstall with grml tomorrow. First I need a grml repository mirror :-) [17:45] mikap: or can you test fai 3.2.2~beta7 [17:45] Mrfai: hehe [17:46] Mrfai: sure, I'm in progress of a special release for heise/c't, but on my laptop I can test it without any risks :) [17:47] I hope to release FAI 3.2.2 next week. [17:47] mikap: will this grml also include FAI? [17:48] Mrfai: jupp [17:48] mrfai: nfsmount works [17:48] ok. When is your deadline? [17:48] kustran: GREAT! What's is the fix? [17:49] Mrfai: tomorrow :-/ [17:49] kustran: oh it's only nfsmount on the shell prompt I guess :-( [17:49] yes :/ [17:49] mikap: OK, I may manage to release FAI 3.2.2 tomorrow. [17:49] /root was mounted, i unmount them and mount again with proto=tcp [17:50] witout any problem [17:50] Mrfai: I don't have any problem with the current FAI on grml 1.1-heise; official and final stable release of grml 1.1 has some few more days left [17:50] mrfai: maybe it is problem with dhclient? [17:50] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [17:51] mikap: ok, it's up to you. But for grml 1.1 we should use 3.2.2. Any wishes for 3.2.2? [17:52] mrfai: http://paste.debian.net/42524 as you see - it's refreshing ip every 2 second ... [17:52] kustran: also if you are in the initramfs shell prompt. Or just before you got the prompt? [17:52] Mrfai: yeah, I'd love to ship fai 3.2.2 with grml 1.1; my main wiches are http://hg.grml.org/grml-live/file/tip/patches/ :) [17:52] before [17:53] when looping [17:53] kustran: before may be ok. There should be a net-eth0.log so similar [17:53] read this file [17:53] Mrfai: my todolist for grml-live<->FAI is available at http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=grml-live => especially regarding the log stuff ("unify log directories /var/log/fai/current (general, softupdate) and /var/log/fai/dirinstall/$HOSTNAME (dirinstall) of FAI") is something I don't know yet how to handle [17:54] mrfai: /tmp/net-eth0.conf? [17:54] kustran: yep [17:54] mikap: I will read this [17:54] looks like normal [17:54] Mrfai: great, thanks [17:54] has ip, dns, filename ... [17:55] nisdomain is empty and rootpath [17:55] mikap: http://hg.grml.org/grml-live/file/tip/patches/ are all already included [17:56] Mrfai: cool! [17:57] kustran: read the link i posted before, maybe it helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/19196 [17:57] ok... i finished work 2h ago, so this is best time to go home :), thanks for help, but i return tommorow ;-) [17:58] bye [17:58] kustran: bye [17:58] kustran (~kustran@amq178.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12 [17:59] mikap: any idea how to solve the log dir stuff? Which choice is the best? [17:59] Mrfai: hm, about the option to set the logdir from outside? (environment variable, specific option,...) [18:01] do we need to set it, or always use /var/log/fai/hostname ? With hostname given by -u when doing dirinstall. [18:01] or something like: fai -L logdir dirinstall .... [18:04] Mrfai: the problem is, that every single execution of FAI deletes the log-dir currently, and the /var/log/fai/current vs. /var/log/fai/dirinstall/$HOSTNAME is something I'd love to unify [18:04] Mrfai: -L logdir where logdir is /path/to/what/you/want would be cool [18:05] though I'm not yet sure how to: unify the files as far as possible without overwriting files on softupdate ;) [18:07] for initial installations logs are written to ../HOSTNAME/action-date+time/. Maybe this is also usefull with dirinstall and softupdate [18:07] so -L would only specify the base directory. Then fai creates the subdirectories HOSTNAME/action-date+time [18:11] Mrfai: this sounds cool, and if softupdate would use ../HOSTNAME/action-date+time/ as well we are pretty close to a perfect solution AFAICS :) [18:15] ErKa (keryell@wifi-225-205.sc07.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [18:15] MrFai: there is no common way to put changed configfiles into FAI_CONFIG_DIR ? [18:18] oz_: use svn. Or just cp? Or you mean to merge the official config space with yours? [18:19] no, i mean if you plan to reconfigure a pool an install new software or hardware... [18:19] and on the way you change configfiles [18:20] is there a way to feed back those configfiles which were changed by the sysadmin into FAI_CONFIG_DIR? [18:21] I just start some hack, based on debsums -e [18:21] and I wonder if someone coded something like this [18:22] that also was my plan for the workshop. :-/ [18:30] sysadmins _must_ not change config file on the machines. Only make changes in the config space. [18:35] meandtheshell (~sa@85.127.108.226) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:40] Mrfai (~lange@suenner.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:46] i might recomend using tripwire. [19:01] etckeeper [19:23] sepski (~seppity@217.17.211.51) joined #fai. 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