[00:01] sobersabre (~bilbo@89-138-77-31.bb.netvision.net.il) joined #fai. [00:01] hi. [00:01] how can I clean IBM Secure Data Disposal tool ? [00:01] Is it just something written in the MBR ? [06:39] kugg (~jerkeby@user184.77-105-210.netatonce.net) left irc: Quit: im off will be back on monday. [06:41] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [06:56] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [07:39] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [08:14] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [08:34] meandtheshell (~markus@85.127.112.221) joined #fai. [08:37] moinzenz [08:46] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:46] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [08:57] rcy (~rcy@209.90.176.221) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:58] rcy (~rcy@209.90.176.221) joined #fai. [09:23] moin moin [09:33] morning [10:02] kasimon (~user@62.117.12.81) joined #fai. [10:02] hello :) [10:04] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:04] Mrfai (~lange@grolsch.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [10:07] sepski (ronny@158.37.9.36) joined #fai. [10:16] Mrfai (~lange@grolsch.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:17] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [10:18] is there any workaround for setup_harddisks iff "sfdisk -g" returns no sensible data for the drive? [10:23] kasimon, you can try setup_harddisks_2 [10:32] su[] (~su@p57B9C0CE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #fai. [10:33] morgen [10:34] ich habe da ein scheinbar größeres problem mit meiner fai 3.2.1 installation, die will nicht, wie ich will [10:47] sepski: I'll have a look at it [10:48] btw is this channel german or englisch? [10:52] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:54] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) joined #fai. [11:05] su[]: und? [11:09] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:10] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [11:13] wenn ich den client booten möchte, scheint alles zu klappen, bis zum prcopyleft [11:13] das kommt eine fehlermeldung: cannot create temp file for here document: read-only file system [11:14] und dannach kommen einige "No such file or directory" Meldungen [11:16] dann kommt "Calling task_action" und "No action in $FAI_ACTION defined." [11:20] su[], hast du fai-nfsroot in nfsroot installiert? ist der configspace auf dem client verfuegbar? [11:21] un fai (no description available) [11:21] ii fai-client 3.2.1 Fully Automatic Installation client package [11:21] ii fai-nfsroot 3.2.1 Fully Automatic Installation nfsroot package [11:21] ^^ das ist im nfsroot installiert [11:21] das nfsroot wurde von fai-setup gebaut, da habe ich nichts weiter gamcht [11:23] kasimon, both, but i only understad the english part [11:29] su[], und ist live-initramfs im nfsroot installiert? [11:30] h01ger: ja, sollten die pakete nicht alle von make-fai-nfsroot installiert worden sein ? [11:33] ich komme an den client auch gar nicht dran, es scheint eine so frühe phase zu sein, wo er stoppt, das weder ssh noch irgendeine lokale console da ist [11:34] schau im nfsroot nach [11:34] man chroot [11:35] ja, ich mache ein chroot /srv/fai/nfsroot und da gucke ich dann nach [11:43] vielleicht noch wichtig, ich boote den host von cd [12:41] kasimon: --force. But what is the exact problem? Any error messages? [12:42] kasimon: I mean you can add --force to the sfdisk call. Problems woth the geometry? [12:42] su[]: bau mit make-fai-nfsroot -v nochmals die nfsroot und paste ds log file auf paste.debian.net [12:42] Mrfai: yes. sfdisk -g returns no geometry, causing a division by zero later in setup_harddisks [12:43] i'm wondering... if i set xserver-xorg xserver-xorg/autodetect_video_card boolean true in debconf can i still set xserver-xorg xserver-xorg/config/device/driver nvidia later on in that same debconf file? [12:43] Mrfai: I already nailed it down to our (2.6.18) fai kernel, with the stock debian 4.0 kernel sfdisk returns correct geometry for the cciss raid controller [12:43] for some reason dpkg still seems to think my quadro fx needs vesa' [12:44] so I'll try out 3.2.1 and see whether the problem prevails. [12:51] Bokeh: set it to false and nvidia. [12:52] kasimon: With fai 3.2.1 you should use the stock Debian kernel whenever possible. There's no need for a special fai kernel in FAI >=3.2 [12:52] Lin (~igor@200.179.57.57) joined #fai. [12:53] ok, if i set videocard autodetect to false it should only affect xserver-xorg/config/device/driver and xserver-xorg/config/device/identifier if i'm right? [12:56] Mrfai: jupp, that's the reason we consider to upgrade fai [13:02] Bokeh: I don't know. IIRC I call dexconf again later. Let me check [13:03] hehe, don't worry about it, i'm just messing abouts a bit [13:03] i don't really have too much experience with fai and debconf, i'd usually configure my systems by copying over /etc files after the installation [13:04] Bokeh: no, currently I do not call dexconf again. That was in the past. For me autodetection of the driver works fine. I only set the resolution and frequencies [13:04] ok [13:05] resolutions are detected properly here, just not the driver. think it might have something to do with the fact that they're quadro fx cards, the ubuntu installation didn't autodetect them either [13:05] shouldn't be a problem, i'll just read out the values with debconf-show and put them in fai manually [13:23] Mrfai: http://paste.debian.net/41809 <-- da isses [13:31] su[]: das sieht sehr gut aus. [13:32] nun mit fai-chboot den eintrag zum booten des clients erzeugen [13:33] am einfachsten fai-chboot -IFv yourclientname [13:42] ok, der bekommt seine ip aber fix, nicht per dhcp [13:48] sepski (ronny@158.37.9.36) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:53] von welchem medium bootest du? [13:54] ich boote mit einer cd, die mit make-fai-bootfloppy erzeugt wurde [13:55] argh [13:55] wth [13:55] now debconf decides my driver should be "apm: [13:55] su[]: dann hast du aber keinen kernel mit initrd auf der CD. Das brauchst du aber fuer 3.2.1 [13:55] ah, ok - gibt es da einen ausweg ? [13:58] ja. DAs einfachste zur Zeit ist, eine normale fai-cd zu machen, der mirror kann ruhig ein leeres verzeichnis sein. das /etc/fai/menu.lst kannst du dann so abaendern, das er die nfsroot via NFS holt und nicht die von der CD nimmt. [13:58] Wir muessen make-fai-bootfloppy erweitern, das es auch kernel mit initrd verarbeitet, oder dies in das fai-cd script einbauen. [13:59] sepski (ronny@158.37.9.36) joined #fai. [14:13] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:13] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [14:19] Mrfai: ok, damit bin ich dann auch weiter ... jetzt bootet er wenigstens mal :-) [14:22] sepski (ronny@158.37.9.36) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [14:25] sobersab1e (~bilbo@89-138-77-31.bb.netvision.net.il) joined #fai. [14:25] hi [14:25] hm... moment [14:25] sobersab1e (~bilbo@89-138-77-31.bb.netvision.net.il) left irc: [14:26] sobersabre (~bilbo@89-138-77-31.bb.netvision.net.il) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:27] sobersabre (~bilbo@89-138-77-31.bb.netvision.net.il) joined #fai. [14:27] pffft [14:27] what is up with certain people in #ubuntu being jackasses. [14:27] it feels just like i timewarped back to #debian in 1998 [14:30] Bokeh: check out #debian and tell me how it feels, please [14:30] lol [14:30] i don't dare talking there :D [14:31] hmmm [14:31] Bokeh: if you do, tell me please :-) [14:31] ok, found one cause of my problem: apparently xserver-xorg gets configured before linux-restricted-modules or nvidia-glx gets installed [14:31] ok. I have a wierd setup of fai-chboot for the machines I ran fai-chboot -I for [14:31] and as such debconf can't select the nvidia drivers [14:32] is there a way to tell fai to install certain packages before others? [14:32] Is there a "Default" template I can make that fai-chboot -I will use on the rest of the machines from it ? [14:32] yeah, i think you can [14:32] 1 second [14:32] oh, wait [14:32] you don't want to use the default tftp boot right? [14:33] otherwise i think the only way to do so would be to make a script that goes over all your machines [14:34] something like for i in machine1 machine2 machine3 machine4; do fai-chboot -I -f blah; done [14:34] hm. [14:34] then again [14:34] there's fai-chboot -c [14:34] do you have all your machines booting from pxe all the time? [14:34] otherwise you could just copy one machine's tftp file to a file named "default" in the same directory [14:34] Bokeh: I found my solution. [14:34] fai-chboot -c [14:34] and that would be the default file to use when pxebooting [14:34] ah, ok :) [14:35] thanks for the attempt [14:35] hehe, nps [14:37] and it even works... [14:38] gz :) [14:40] Bokeh: #ubuntu-motu is a much friendlier place, however limited to no end-user support there, please [14:41] cheers [14:41] it's a bit of a shame [14:41] i remember #ubuntu when warty was just out [14:42] and people swore that it'd actually be a useful channel [14:42] where people would do support and help people instead of talking politics and treating everyone who knew less than you with utmost disgust [14:44] Bokeh: I know some ops in #ubuntu, and they are really helpful. However also pretty busy :) [14:44] yeah, might be [14:45] but still, i'm asking a serious question about why debconf would pick the apm driver for xorg over nvidia, even though nvidia is set in the preseed, including a pastebin url for the debconf output and the preseed, and the first response you get is " Bokeh: than read the log files to find out why" [14:45] Bokeh: if you need support, you might want to try the support tracker in launchpad. it has been useful at least to me in the past [14:46] yeah, then again, launchpad is not really for questions, more for bug reports [14:46] I'm sorry to disagree, launchpad does both [14:46] oh, ok [14:46] i've always seen launchpad as more of a bugtracking system [14:46] see https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ [14:46] ah, didn't know that one yet [14:47] or rather https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ [14:47] though, still, if i was a newbie to ubuntu and i had a simple question about something which is trivial to more experienced users (say for example getting alsa to work properly or installing codexes for mplayer) [14:48] Bokeh: then I'd point you to https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+addquestion [14:48] and i'd see an ops (or someone else with a reasonable status) talking down to someone like that, i'd actually be discouraged to ask anything [14:49] yeah, but you get what i'm pointing at :) [14:49] sure [14:50] bleh, debconf still won't select the nvidia driver... it seems that nvidia-glx is getting installed after xserver-xorg-base for some reason [14:50] brb [14:51] kasimon (~user@62.117.12.81) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:21] sobersabre (~bilbo@89-138-77-31.bb.netvision.net.il) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:24] ok, und jetzt noch eine kleinigkeit sicherlich: fai erstellt mir keine xfs partitionen (xfsprogs und xfsdump) liegen aber beide im nfsroot [15:26] su[]: fehlermeldung? format.log gelesen? [15:27] keine, er erstellt stattdessen ext2 partitionen [15:27] dann les mal format.log [15:28] oder paste es auf paste.debian.net [15:28] http://paste.debian.net/41818 <-- das ist die disk_config [15:29] bist du dir sicher, das diese auch genutzt wird? [15:31] su[]: kunnen sie eine xfs partition machen wenn sie in der nfsroot sind? [15:32] mit mkfs.xfs /dev/sdax ? [15:34] argh, der nimmt ja die einstellungen aus dem config-space auf der cd, kann man das nicht ändern ? [15:34] hmm [15:34] weis ich nicht, ich brauche nur pxe [15:43] su[]: klar kann man das aendern. Was sagt den cat /proc/cmdline? [15:51] Mrfai: ich komme morgen darauf zurück ... ich muss grad los ... melde mich dann wieder [15:52] su[] (~su@p57B9C0CE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: bin raus hier [16:10] sepski (~sep@217.17.211.51) joined #fai. [16:42] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:42] faibot joined #fai. [17:43] h01ger (~holger@socket.layer-acht.org) joined #fai. 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