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| 09:11 Bokeh | yawn |
| 09:11 Bokeh | morning |
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| 09:37 lazyb0y_ | mfl: sounds like a very interesting feature - would mind filing a wishlist report? |
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| 10:05 Mrfai | mfl: currently it's only possible by defining a negated class. So if you have a class FOO, also define a class NOTFOO, which is only defined if FOO is not defined. But please file a wishlist bug. |
| 10:32 mfl | Mrfai: ok, that's what i already did... :) |
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| 10:35 mfl | lazyb0y_,Mrfai: i'll file a wishlist bug as soon as my installations run... thanks! |
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| 14:01 Bluemoon_ | moin moin |
| 14:03 Bluemoon_ | ich habe hier ein problem mit dhcp, wenn ich einen fai-client boote und er soll per dhcp eine ip bekommen, so geht das nicht, wenn ich aber im selben rechner eine grml-cd boote so bekomme ich mit dieser eine ip ueber den dhcp-server |
| 14:03 Bluemoon_ | was koennte das denn sein? |
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| 14:51 Mrfai | direkt beim PXE boot oder spaeter wenn der kernel schon gebootet hat? Welche Netzwerkkarte? Die die NEtzwerkkarte auf PXE eingestellt? |
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| 15:00 Bluemoon_ | Mrfai, PXE nicht, ich boote per floppy |
| 15:01 Bluemoon_ | also wenn der kernel versucht eine IP zu bekommen |
| 15:24 Mrfai | aber die netzwerkkarte ist aktiviert? |
| 15:29 Bluemoon_ | jepp |
| 15:29 Bluemoon_ | es geht ueber ein dhcp-relay, kann das vielleicht der grund sein? |
| 15:30 Bluemoon_ | das komische ist, das der dhcp-server ein offer schickt und dieses auch ankommt |
| 15:30 Bluemoon_ | nur wird es nicht vom fai-client angenommen |
| 15:30 Mrfai | natuerlich. Aber du solltest ja im log sehen ob die dhcp request ueberhaupt nakommen |
| 15:30 Mrfai | ok |
| 15:31 Mrfai | was fuer eine floppy? etherboot, rom-o-matic? |
| 15:31 Bluemoon_ | eine mit make-fai-bootfloppy erstellte |
| 15:31 Bluemoon_ | also iso-image |
| 15:32 Bluemoon_ | s/also/als/ |
| 15:33 Mrfai | probier doch mal eine mit rom-o-matic erstellt. Dann hast du ganz normales PXE. |
| 15:34 Bluemoon_ | ich kann hier leider kein pxe nutzen weil hier schon so ein ZEN-netware PXE rumschwirrt |
| 15:40 Mrfai | doof. Dann soll das ZEN PXE einfach ruhig sein wenn dein Rechner PXE macht. |
| 15:44 Bluemoon_ | das sage ich ja auch immer meinen netware-kollegen aber die meinen, dass sie diesen crap brauchen :) |
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| 16:09 Jahman | hi |
| 16:11 Jahman | i have a little problem with nfs. When the client boot, the script nfs-premount failed(message mount Device or resource busy). On my nfs server, i have the following log message: Nov 7 17:05:04 dpt72 mountd[5561]: refused unmount request from 192.168.0.20 for /root (/): not exported |
| 16:12 Jahman | why the client attempt to unmount /root on the server ? |
| 16:26 Jahman | okay it was my nfsroot variable in my pxeconfig.cfg/default. I need set up it by /media/stock/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir/ and not just /media/stock/fai/nfsroot/ |
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| 17:10 lazyb0y_ | Bluemoon_: ich hatte mal sonen effekt, als ich mit einem kernel, der auf ip_pnp_auto konfiguriert ist(oder iwe das heit, also dhcp auf kernel-ebene), dass er nur offers von authoritative dhcp's angenommen hat - das sah da auch so aus, wie du es beschreibst. |
| 17:11 lazyb0y_ | ich weiss nicht, ob es schon in fai 3.2 geht, eine bootfloppy zu machen - da dort ein normaler kernel ohne diese option genutzt wird, sollte das da nicht passieren |
| 17:37 h01ger | bootfloppies werden in 3.2.1 gearnicht mehr unterstützt. etherboot |
| 17:37 h01ger | rom-o-matic.net |
| 17:37 h01ger | steht im wiki |
| 17:37 Mrfai | h01ger: hatten wir schon. Er kann kein PXE nutzen |
| 17:40 h01ger | axo |
| 17:49 Bluemoon_ | re |
| 17:50 Bluemoon_ | lazyb0y_, ja, das scheint echt am kernel-dhcp zu liegen |
| 17:50 Bluemoon_ | ein gebootetes grml in der selben VM macht dhcp ohne probleme |
| 18:03 Mrfai | Bluemoon_: kannst du von CD booten? Dann koenntest du den kernel mit initrd von CD booten. |
| 18:04 Bluemoon_ | von cd kann ich booten, fuer diese rechner habe ich aber noch fai 3.1 |
| 18:05 Bluemoon_ | fai 3.2 habe ich erst auf einer testbox |
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| 19:11 sobersabre | hi guys. |
| 19:11 sobersabre | what can cause the machine to fail to unzip/untar the base.tgz file ? |
| 19:12 sobersabre | and suddenly loose the FAI server.. |
| 19:12 sobersabre | It's a LAN. |
| 19:12 sobersabre | although mixed speeds etc., but still a lan. |
| 19:13 sobersabre | the partitioning succeeds, but after that the machine fails on extracting base.tgz ( if I am not wrong ) I am not at the machine now. |
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| 19:31 lazyb0y_ | ich habe schon mehrmals rom-o-matic getestet, und es hat nie geklappt. |
| 19:48 Mrfai | sobersabre: check the cables. read fai.log. Any error messages? |
| 19:48 sobersabre | I can connect to the machines. nothing suspicious. |
| 19:48 Mrfai | can you ping them? |
| 19:48 sobersabre | is it possible that the kernel gets pushed, but the base.tgz is stuck with "bad cables" thing ? |
| 19:48 sobersabre | I can ping them. |
| 19:49 Mrfai | ping them with larger packets |
| 19:49 sobersabre | hmm. |
| 19:49 sobersabre | :) |
| 19:49 sobersabre | ok |
| 19:49 sobersabre | doing it. |
| 19:49 sobersabre | moment. |
| 19:50 MT | what about ssh? |
| 19:52 Mrfai | good idea. can you ssh to them? |
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| 19:54 sobersabre | I can ssh |
| 19:54 sobersabre | I can read log. |
| 19:55 sobersabre | pings pass. |
| 19:55 MT | anything useful in the logs? |
| 19:55 MT | what if you do the base extraction manually? |
| 19:55 sobersabre | I tried -s 65507 |
| 19:55 sobersabre | MT: where is it located ? |
| 19:56 MT | the base or the logs? |
| 19:56 sobersabre | and another one: can you md5 your base.tgz ? |
| 19:56 sobersabre | the base |
| 19:56 sobersabre | I know where logs are. |
| 19:57 sobersabre | it says /var/tmp/base.tgz |
| 19:57 MT | the base is /var/tmp/base.tgz |
| 19:57 sobersabre | 1b97d98974df6962a141ba21c1c0d972 base.tgz |
| 19:57 sobersabre | can you compare to your md5sum ? |
| 19:57 MT | which FAI version, which distribution? |
| 19:58 MT | I think it's highly unlikely that there are any similar base.tgz around |
| 19:58 MT | with the same md5sum |
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| 20:00 Mrfai | sobersabre: IMO it makes no sense to compare md5 of base.tgz. They will differ. |
| 20:00 Mrfai | any error messages in fai.log or from dmesg? |
| 20:01 Mrfai | call top and see if a process is running |
| 20:01 Mrfai | during extracting the base |
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| 20:07 sobersabre | moment. |
| 20:07 sobersabre | there's one strange thing. |
| 20:07 sobersabre | I remember that in the <hex IP without dots> files I have no mentioning of UDP. |
| 20:08 sobersabre | but the booting system somehow has an nfs mount via UDP, with wierd options. |
| 20:08 sobersabre | how come this can happen ? |
| 20:08 Mrfai | tcp for NFS mounts is better |
| 20:08 Mrfai | sobersabre: gbit LAN? |
| 20:08 MT | check your tftpd logs to find out which file it used for booting |
| 20:08 sobersabre | Mrfai, it's a mix of 100 and 1000 links. |
| 20:09 MT | gbit/100mbit won't work properly for NFS-over-udp |
| 20:09 sobersabre | this leaves not many choices but to use TCP. |
| 20:09 Mrfai | gbit LAN and NFS over UDP may cause problems |
| 20:09 MT | :-) |
| 20:09 sobersabre | it cause. |
| 20:09 Mrfai | MT: 100mbit is fine, gbit can cause problems |
| 20:10 sobersabre | anyway, I wonder WHY I have seen udp |
| 20:10 sobersabre | anyway. |
| 20:10 sobersabre | strangeness continues: |
| 20:10 sobersabre | uptime: |
| 20:10 MT | but mixing them hardly works at all |
| 20:10 sobersabre | 23:01:51 up 5:53, 1 user, load average: 1.00, 0.97, 0.91 |
| 20:10 sobersabre | something is definetely fishy. |
| 20:10 MT | is it maybe still pulling base.tgz? |
| 20:11 sobersabre | /dev/root on / type nfs (rw,vers=2,rsize=4096,wsize=4096,hard,nolock,proto=udp,timeo=11,retrans=2,sec=sys,addr=132.68.206.225) |
| 20:11 sobersabre | WHY udp ?!?! |
| 20:11 sobersabre | I don't understand this. |
| 20:11 MT | cat /proc/cmdline ? |
| 20:12 sobersabre | last line is "Extracting /var/tmp/base.tgz" |
| 20:13 sobersabre | ip=dhcp root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=/srv/fai/nfsroot FAI_FLAGS=verbose,sshd,createvt FAI_ACTION=install BOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz-install |
| 20:13 MT | that might all be solved by solving this udp issue |
| 20:14 sobersabre | found it. |
| 20:14 sobersabre | for some reason there are 4 machines with this above line. |
| 20:14 sobersabre | but the rest ( normal ) are: |
| 20:14 sobersabre | vmlinuz-install ip=dhcp root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=/srv/fai/nfsroot,v3,tcp,intr FAI_FLAGS=verbose,sshd,createvt FAI_ACTION=install |
| 20:15 sobersabre | as you can see, tcp, intr and v3 are specifically put. |
| 20:15 sobersabre | hm. |
| 20:15 sobersabre | I hate gremlins. |
| 20:15 sobersabre | At least I know there are some. |
| 20:15 MT | are you damn sure it has found an appropriate config file |
| 20:16 Mrfai | some versions of fai-chboot set tcp and v3, the newer version does not need it any more, since newer kernel and kernel with initrd automatically uses v3 and tcp |
| 20:16 MT | (and did not use some default config) |
| 20:16 sobersabre | I user fai-chboot -I for the rest. |
| 20:16 sobersabre | s/user/used/ |
| 20:16 sobersabre | wierdo one. |
| 20:17 sobersabre | what does "boot=live" mean ? |
| 20:17 sobersabre | I remember removing it for some reason. |
| 20:18 MT | that's required for live-initramfs |
| 20:18 MT | assuming you are consistently using FAI >= 3.2 |
| 20:19 MT | (including an NFSROOT generated by FAI >= 3.2) |
| 20:19 sobersabre | I am using fai-kernels 1.17, and the rest is 3.2.1 |
| 20:19 sobersabre | NFSROOT generated with 3.2.1 |
| 20:20 MT | FAI 3.2.1 doesn't really like fai-kernels anymore I think |
| 20:20 MT | you should be using a standard kernel |
| 20:20 sobersabre | hm... |
| 20:20 sobersabre | shall I remove the package ? |
| 20:20 MT | hmm, no idea, Mrfai? |
| 20:21 sobersabre | how can I point fai to use standard kernel ? |
| 20:21 sobersabre | shall I remove and run fai-setup ? |
| 20:21 MT | It will do so by default |
| 20:21 Mrfai | if you have FAI 3.2.1 on your install server, you will only need to rebuild your nfsroot (fai-setup) which also copies the plain kernel with initrd to your tftp directory |
| 20:21 sobersabre | ok. |
| 20:21 MT | make-fai-nfsroot will do |
| 20:22 Mrfai | right make-fai-nfsroot will copy the kernel and initrd |
| 20:22 sobersabre | ok. I will try this. hoping for the best. |
| 20:22 Mrfai | save your old nfsroot |
| 20:22 Mrfai | before doing this |
| 20:22 Mrfai | and use -v |
| 20:24 sobersabre | ok. |
| 20:24 sobersabre | I have no sentiments for the old nfsroot though. |
| 20:24 sobersabre | :) |
| 20:46 sobersabre | hmm |
| 20:46 sobersabre | got this one: |
| 20:46 sobersabre | chroot: cannot run command `update-initramfs': No such file or directory |
| 20:47 sobersabre | where have I sinned ?! |
| 20:47 stockholm | sobersabre: you know that very well! |
| 20:47 Mrfai | paste your log of make-fai-nfsroot to paste.debian.net |
| 20:47 stockholm | sobersabre: repent! |
| 21:10 sobersabre | you mean the output of make-fai-nfsroot -v ? |
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| 21:16 Mrfai_ | yep |
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| 21:53 sobersabre | http://paste.debian.net/41736 |
| 21:55 sobersabre | Mrfai, have you got it ? |
| Action: Mrfai reading it |
| 21:55 sobersabre | omg... |
| 21:56 sobersabre | maybe this is a "blank" error. i.e. everything seems ok, but I am getting a heart attack from "aborting" etc. |
| 21:56 Mrfai | no, things are missing |
| 21:57 MT | hmm, no linux-image ... |
| 21:57 Mrfai | no package linux-image... is installed |
| 21:57 Mrfai | :-) |
| 21:57 MT | :-) |
| 21:57 Mrfai | 2 seconds too late ;-) |
| 21:58 MT | sobersabre, which hardware architecture is this? |
| 21:58 sobersabre | install_packages: executing chroot /srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir dpkg -C |
| 21:58 sobersabre | install_packages: executing chroot /srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir apt-get clean |
| 21:58 sobersabre | chroot: cannot run command `update-initramfs': No such file or directory |
| 21:58 sobersabre | intel, I use 686 intel kernel. |
| 21:59 sobersabre | hmm... what a flooder. |
| 21:59 MT | Mrfai, how does make-fai-nfsroot know whether it should use I386, AMD64, etc |
| 21:59 sobersabre | I guess uname -m |
| 21:59 sobersabre | it doesn't know much about the clients. |
| 22:00 MT | sobersabre: could you do chroot /srv/fai/nfsroot dpkg --print-installation-architecture |
| 22:00 MT | please |
| 22:00 sobersabre | I will moment. |
| 22:00 sobersabre | Mrfai, I am adding: |
| 22:00 sobersabre | linux-image-2.6.18-5-686 |
| 22:01 sobersabre | to the line: |
| 22:01 sobersabre | PACKAGES install I386 |
| 22:01 sobersabre | I mean after that line, after lilo, grub etc. |
| 22:01 sobersabre | I this seems ok? |
| 22:01 Mrfai | sobersabre: /etc/fai/NFSROOT should already contain the name of the linux-image package |
| 22:02 sobersabre | well, somehow it doesn't |
| 22:02 Mrfai | use the original /etc/fai/NFSROOT from the package. |
| 22:02 sobersabre | maybe I shall rerun fai-setup ? |
| 22:02 Mrfai | no |
| 22:02 Mrfai | I think do did an upgrade from FAI 3.1 to 3.2 and did not use the new /etc/fai/NFSROOT. |
| 22:02 Mrfai | you are still usingthe old version of NFSROOT |
| 22:03 MT | sobersabre, would you mind pasting /etc/fai/NFSROOT ? |
| 22:03 sobersabre | hmm... talent. that's what I call talent |
| 22:03 sobersabre | Mrfai, you're correct, as usual. |
| 22:03 sobersabre | shall I simply replace with stock NFSROOT ? |
| 22:04 Mrfai | didn't the upgrade asked you which version to use? |
| 22:04 sobersabre | I am usually conservative about this :) |
| 22:04 sobersabre | 1st time I get it on the bad side |
| 22:04 Mrfai | ok, that was your fault. |
| 22:04 Mrfai | yes just use the stock new one |
| 22:04 sobersabre | I have never blamed anyone esle, except gremlins. |
| 22:04 sobersabre | :) |
| 22:04 MT | did you do any changes to the old NFSROOT file? |
| 22:05 MT | -> you might want to merge them |
| 22:05 MT | but most probably the stock version is just fine |
| 22:05 sobersabre | now I tried to do, I will now replace. but I want 686 kernel. |
| 22:05 sobersabre | not 486 |
| 22:05 sobersabre | any advantage to 486 ? |
| 22:05 sobersabre | I have no 486 machines. |
| 22:06 Mrfai | you do not need 686 kernel during installtion. |
| 22:06 Mrfai | this is the kernel for installtion only. You may ewant to adjust /srv/fai/config/package_config/... |
| 22:06 Mrfai | there you define the kernel for your new system |
| 22:06 sobersabre | this I have done already. |
| 22:07 Mrfai | sobersabre: I hope to get the FAI questionnaire from you after you've installed with your new FAI version. |
| 22:07 sobersabre | anyway, the annotying thing: |
| 22:08 sobersabre | make-fai-nfsroot -v 2>&1 > output.txt |
| 22:08 sobersabre | and it still somehow prints something on stdout |
| 22:08 MT | I think you should do make-fai-nfsroot -v > output.txt 2>&1 |
| 22:08 sobersabre | shall I ( make-fai-nfsroot -v ) 2>&1 > output.txt ? |
| 22:08 sobersabre | hmm.. |
| 22:09 sobersabre | I guess you're right. but ... why doesn't the other way work ? the effect seems to be the same... ( to me ) |
| 22:10 sobersabre | I mean seems to have been supposedly |
| 22:10 Mrfai | sobersabre: that's shell magic |
| 22:10 sobersabre | I wrote a shell that didn't mind that. |
| 22:10 sobersabre | :) |
| 22:10 sobersabre | I remember discussing this with the partner... |
| 22:10 sobersabre | convincing him: "but bash already works like that!" |
| 22:11 MT | Note that the order of redirections is significant. For example, the |
| 22:11 MT | command |
| 22:11 MT | ls > dirlist 2>&1 |
| 22:11 MT | directs both standard output and standard error to the file dirlist, |
| 22:11 MT | while the command |
| 22:11 MT | ls 2>&1 > dirlist |
| 22:11 MT | directs only the standard output to file dirlist, because the standard |
| 22:11 MT | error was duplicated as standard output before the standard output was |
| 22:11 MT | redirected to dirlist. |
| 22:11 MT | man bash |
| 22:12 sobersabre | yep |
| 22:14 sobersabre | MT: http://paste.debian.net/41742 my old NFSROOT |
| 22:15 MT | hmm, I think you had added (at least) subversion-tools build-essential |
| 22:15 sobersabre | tru |
| 22:15 sobersabre | but that was before I've added that to classes. |
| 22:16 sobersabre | the results: |
| 22:16 sobersabre | dpkg --print-installation-architecture |
| 22:16 sobersabre | i386 |
| 22:16 sobersabre | after chroot to /srv/fai/nfsroot |
| 22:17 MT | ok, I guess that's all fine once you use the new NFSROOT file |
| 22:18 sobersabre | running now. |
| 22:18 sobersabre | will see what's going on then. |
| 22:32 sobersabre | which key is used to sign fai packages ? |
| 22:33 Mrfai | my key: AB9B66FD |
| 22:33 Mrfai | why? |
| 22:34 sobersabre | I think I don't have it... checking. |
| 22:37 sobersabre | which keyserver has it ? |
| 22:39 sobersabre | ok. found it :) |
| 22:44 sobersabre | the saga continues, though: |
| 22:44 sobersabre | http://paste.debian.net/41745 |
| 22:44 sobersabre | now some destination is missing. |
| 22:45 sobersabre | can somebody look at this ? |
| 22:45 MT | ah, that one is well known |
| 22:45 MT | mom |
| 22:45 sobersabre | moment then. |
| 22:46 MT | you need to update make-fai-nfsroot.conf as well |
| 22:46 MT | you are missing the TFTPROOT variable |
| 22:47 sobersabre | ok |
| 22:47 sobersabre | I know it's value though |
| 22:47 sobersabre | :) |
| 22:47 sobersabre | Thanks!!! |
| 22:50 sobersabre | Danke sch?n. |
| 22:50 sobersabre | Why do I actually need: FAI_DEBOOTSTRAP="etch http://ftp.debian.org/debian" |
| 22:50 sobersabre | ? |
| 22:50 MT | :-) |
| 22:51 sobersabre | I have local mirror. |
| 22:51 MT | otherwise make-fai-nfsroot wouldn't know how to call debootstrap |
| 22:51 MT | then feel free to put the local mirror there |
| 22:51 MT | (I think) |
| 22:51 sobersabre | I'll do that. |
| 22:59 MT | I'll get to bed, good luck sobersabre! |
| Action: Mrfai me too |
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| 23:08 sobersabre | thanks all |
| 23:08 sobersabre | :) |
| 23:10 sobersabre | schlaf gut, treum s?ss |
| 23:10 sobersabre | byebye |
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