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| 08:07 h01ger | kugg, cheers to your commit. please add appropriate copyright info to the images too... |
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| 09:03 Mrfai | siretart_: how is the UDS? Any news about FAI and Ubuntu? |
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| 11:18 siretart_ | Mrfai: I'm currently at UDS, and I'm still trying to convince people that using FAI is a great idea |
| 11:18 stockholm | siretart_: what is UDS? |
| 11:18 siretart_ | Mrfai: it seems that many people have reservations like "but FAI absolutely needs an FAI server" or "FAI needs special kernels to run" and such |
| 11:18 h01ger | "FAI is only for installations" |
| 11:18 siretart_ | stockholm: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Boston |
| 11:18 oz_ | siretart_: tell them about FAI-CD! |
| 11:18 stockholm | ah, UBUNTU! |
| 11:19 oz_ | suggest them fai as the default install for ubuntu ;) |
| 11:19 siretart_ | stockholm: the developers conference for ubuntu 8.04 |
| 11:19 stockholm | great. convince them! |
| 11:19 siretart_ | oz_: that would be Collin, and since he doesn't want to support a 3rd installer, chances are rather slim |
| 11:19 siretart_ | s/Collin/Colin/ |
| 11:20 stockholm | last time i checked the ubuntu wiki during a developer gathering i got depressed because they ignored debian completly. |
| 11:20 oz_ | siretart_: just suggest it. say something like "FAI" supports bootsplashinstall" |
| 11:20 oz_ | stockholm: uhm. that's sad. |
| 11:21 stockholm | that was the time they started edubuntu and not even talked to debian-edu |
| 11:22 siretart_ | stockholm: I've heared something different from ogra |
| 11:22 siretart_ | stockholm: about the 'not caring about debian', well there are so many DDs around here, I don't think that is true |
| 11:23 siretart_ | espc the motu do care about debian, but there are rather hesitant for collaborating with them, mainly because the barriers are rather high, I'd say |
| 11:23 siretart_ | but we have sessions about this problem at this UDS about that |
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| 11:26 stockholm | cool |
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| 14:58 Bokeh | argh |
| 14:59 Bokeh | the fai tftp panics, Attempting to kill init |
| 14:59 Bokeh | but only on a few specific machine types |
| 14:59 Bokeh | is it correct that's because it can't find my netwerk card driver (remember reading that somewhere) |
| 15:01 Mrfai | the tftp daemon panics, or the kernel that is loaded via tftp? |
| 15:05 Bokeh | the kernel that's loaded via tftp, sorry |
| 15:05 Bokeh | what it does is, it boots (both 2.6.20 and 2.6.22 work) until near the end, then out of the blue it panics |
| 15:06 Bokeh | though a 2.6.22 gutsy install cd seem to boot fine |
| 15:08 Mrfai | Bokeh: what error messages do you seen before the panic? |
| 15:09 Bokeh | that's the weird thing, absolutely nothing |
| 15:09 Bokeh | it recognizes EHCI devices (usb, harddisk, etc) |
| 15:09 Mrfai | problems to mount the root file system? |
| 15:09 Bluemoon | tach |
| 15:09 Bokeh | brb, 1sec |
| 15:09 Bokeh | just checking if i didn't miss anything, but i doubt it |
| 15:10 Bluemoon | kann es sein, das make-fai-bootdisk noch nicht an die version 3.2 angepasst ist? |
| 15:11 Bluemoon | es versucht sachen aus /srv/fai/nfsroot/ zu kopieren anstatt aus /srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir/ |
| 15:12 Bokeh | ok, nothing too special |
| 15:13 Bokeh | usbcore is initialized, mass storage devices get registerd |
| 15:13 Bokeh | no errors whatsoever |
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| 15:32 Bokeh | bleh, really cba to fix this now.. i'm off to home. |
| 15:37 Mrfai | Bluemoon: es gibt kein make-fai-bootdisk. was meinst du? make-fai-bootfloppy? JA das ist noch nciht fuer 3.2 angepasst, wird auch nur schwer gehen, da kernel und initrd nicht auf 1.44M passen. Selbst 2.88M ist zu klein. |
| 15:37 Bluemoon | ja, ich meinte floppy |
| 15:38 Mrfai | Bluemoon: was willst du genau machen? CD bauen, die nur kernel und initrd hat und davon booten? |
| 15:38 Mrfai | oder wirklich noich eine floppy? |
| 15:38 Bluemoon | Mrfai, genau, dafuer habe ich das immer gebraucht |
| 15:38 Bluemoon | also fuer die cd |
| 15:39 Bokeh | quick question: is there a way to configure fai-make-nfsroot to install additional modules in the initrd? |
| 15:39 Bokeh | it seems those new dell machines use the e1000_ich9 driver |
| 15:39 Bluemoon | Mrfai, ich habe das jetzt schon angepasst, ich wollte nur mal nachfragen |
| 15:40 Bluemoon | hatte ja sein koennen, das ich einfach eine variable vergessen hatte zu setzen oder sowas |
| 15:41 Bluemoon | Mrfai, ich bin jetzt jedenfalls am 3.2 testen fuer uns hier |
| 15:42 Mrfai | Bluemoon: bitte schick mir die patches die du gemacht hast. |
| 15:42 Bluemoon | Mrfai, mir faellt gerade auf, das ich das initrd vergessen habe |
| 15:42 Mrfai | das mag der kernel aber gar nicht :-) |
| 15:42 Bluemoon | hab ich gemerkt :) |
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| 15:43 Bluemoon | man, der soll sich blos nicht so haben :) |
| 15:44 Mrfai | die menu.lst musst du auch noch anpassen. schau dir das /etc/fai/menu.lst an |
| 15:51 Bokeh | ok, i think i found my problem... those new dell machines' network cards use the e1000_ich9 driver, which apparently doesn't seem to be in the kernel by default (or it's not being recognized properly) |
| 15:53 Bluemoon | Mrfai, ok |
| 16:01 Mrfai | Bluemoon: und dann den patch bitte an mich. Ich glaube dazu war auch ein bug geoeffnet. |
| 16:02 Bluemoon | ah |
| 16:02 Bluemoon | ich guck mal ob ichs hinbekommen |
| 16:02 Bluemoon | jetzt bin ich schon mal groessenbegrenzung gestossen |
| 16:02 Bluemoon | cp: Schreiben von /media/floppy/initrd.img-2.6.18-5-amd64: Auf dem Gert ist kein Speicherplatz mehr verfgbar |
| 16:08 Mrfai | Bluemoon: da gibt es ein dd im make-fai-bootfloppy script. Da musst du die size hoeher setzen |
| 16:08 Mrfai | dd if=/dev/zero of=$floppydev bs=1024 count=$size |
| 16:09 Mrfai | B) size=2880 ;; |
| 16:09 Mrfai | also wenn du -B gibst wird die size auf 2.8mb gesetzt. |
| 16:09 Bluemoon | Mrfai, jepp, aber jetzt zickt genisoimage |
| 16:09 Mrfai | Ich denke, das koennte man auch vorher berechnen wieviel man braucht |
| 16:11 Mrfai | genisoimage kann auch groessere "boot images". fai-cd macht das. Option fuer mkisofs: -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 |
| 16:11 Mrfai | das koennte helfen |
| 16:11 Bluemoon | versuche ich mal |
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| 20:38 h01ger | kugg_, re: r4650: s/are licenced/were created by Christoffer Kugg Jerkeby and are licenced/ or even plus s/created by/copyrighted by/ |
| 20:38 h01ger | besides that, thanks :) |
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| 21:45 kugg_ | hehe sure |
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| 21:57 kugg | tadaa |
| 22:24 h01ger | \o/ |
| 22:43 stockhol1 | bedtime! |
| 22:43 stockhol1 | now, go to bed everybody! |
| 22:43 stockhol1 | :-) |
| 22:46 kugg | ok Ill try |
| 22:47 kugg | same to you el'stockhol1'mo |
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