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[07:51] Hmm, I have a 3ware RAID controller with PCI ID 13c1:1004, which is not detected by FAI from etch (fai-kernels with 2.6.18) [07:56] schurig, is it detected with the normal linux kernels from etch? [07:57] h01ger: not sure. I've got the machine pre-installed with some ubuntu, and that did detect it. But as it's going to be a server, I'll wipe that and replace it with debian etch [07:57] if so, you might want to give fai 3.2.1 a try, which works without fai-kernels (it uses the normal kernels and "nfsroot" via initrd) [07:58] schurig, which kernel version? (does that ubuntu have) [07:58] I'm just downloading and looking if "linux-source-2.6.18-etch4" already contains the PCI id [07:58] Action: h01ger nods [07:59] h01ger: I also know that "vanulla" 2.6.22 contains the PCI id, so I'm sure its not something ubuntic :-) [08:00] with fai 3.2.1 you can use a 2.6.22 kernel from bpo, if 2.6.18 is not recent enough. i think its better to use fai 3.2.1 than rebuilding fai-kernels, but YMMV, esp. if you have a working fai setup in production :) [08:02] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [08:07] h01ger: okay, I'll take your advice. BPO is backports.org, I suppose? [08:08] yes [08:09] schurig, if you use fai 3.2.1, you need to have a repo which contains it in /etc/fai/apt/sources.list too, its not enough to install it in the fai server, its also needed in the nfsroot [08:09] h01ger: what needs in the repo, fai_3.2.1*.deb ?!? [08:11] fai-client, not fai [08:11] schurig, read "getting fai" on http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/Main_Page [08:11] add that repo to your sources.list(s!) [08:12] sobersabre (~bilbo@89-138-78-195.bb.netvision.net.il) joined #fai. [08:15] hi fai [08:15] where do I make grub to be configured ? [08:16] my clients got installed, but when I am trying to boot any of the items in the boot menu, it doesn't find the file. [08:17] sobersabre, do you find it using the grub commandline ? [08:17] sep: can I get list of partitions via grub command line ? [08:18] i use the tab completion in grub [08:20] sobersabre, are you using the simple examples? There is a GRUB class [08:20] .. [08:25] h01ger: when I'm using a kernel from bpo, then I surely should change "linux-image-486" in /etc/fai/NFSROOT to the newer kernel? [08:25] Mrfai: what's the state of #444210 and #447080 from your side? [08:26] sep: so, does it complete /dev stuff ? [08:26] it uses the grub annotation ofcourse [08:27] (hd0,0) [08:27] (hd0 etc.) [08:27] ? [08:27] and filenames on those partitions [08:27] schurig, yes [08:31] ok [08:31] I found that root (...) line was wrong [08:31] the q. is ... why :) [08:32] how is it automatically determined by grub-update ? [08:33] Ithing menu.lst has the lines with 1 "#" that are passed to grub-update [08:33] s/Ithing/I think/ [08:41] on boot the grub writes that the partition is ext2, but it's type is wrong. [08:41] and the kernel is not found. [08:42] the order in the class's partitioning file in disk_config dir is /boot, and then / [08:42] /boot is not primary, but it is bootable. [08:43] can this cause any problems ? [08:43] the machines are ... 3 y.o. [08:44] williamvergara (~chatzilla@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) joined #fai. [09:19] sobersabre: you have to add the option boot to /boot. Add this after the ; in the same line. If this partitioin is ext3 add also ext3 [09:20] h01ger: hmm, bpo doesn't contain any unionfs-module. Do you know if unionfs is compiled into linux-image-486 2.6.21+8~bpo.1 ? [09:23] hm. [09:24] has anyone seen /etc/motd as a symlink to /var/run/motd ? [09:24] schurig, dunno, sorry. maybe its there for 2.6.22? [09:25] h01ger: hmm, there is no string "unionfs" in /var/lib/apt/lists/www.backports.org_debian_dists_etch-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages" at all [09:32] no idea then. there is #backports or #debian-backports though. the right name is one bpo webpage :) [09:34] allee (~ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de) joined #fai. [09:34] Action: h01ger just dealed with 15000 spam mails not catched by my filters. yay. most of it backscatter.. [09:35] h01ger: I think I'll dithc this, it's too time consuming. Either I'll settle for FAI softupdate or make my own kernel [09:35] Action: h01ger nods [09:35] pity [10:01] Mrfai, I have this [10:01] logical /boot 256 rw,errors=remount-ro ; -c ext2 boot [10:01] shall I make it ext3 and add the -j ? [10:02] it's up to you to choose betwqeen ext2 and ext3. [10:04] kugg_ (~jerkeby@c83-249-226-166.bredband.comhem.se) joined #fai. [10:05] of course. [10:06] still, I don't understand: the grub menu got updated and contains lines with os boot. but it is incorrect. [10:06] ErKa (~keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) joined #fai. [10:06] why ? [10:06] kugg (~jerkeby@c83-249-226-166.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [10:06] I mean: the kernel images were installed, grub-update was executed. [10:06] what could I have done better to avoid this ? [10:06] :) [10:08] how can I see this problem can occur via observing the conf. files ? [10:15] sobersabre: more detailed info's please. paste your disk_var.sh and have a look at your shell.log [10:20] ok. [10:23] moment. [10:26] I cannot find disk_var.sh [10:26] the shell.log is here: [10:27] hmm. it isn't still, I am rerunning. [10:31] ok. it's been generated. [10:31] disk_var.sh prints wrong data. [10:32] I have created /dev/hda5 as /boot, and /dev/hda6 as / [10:33] but both BOOT_ and ROOT_ are written as /dev/hda6 [10:33] where do I change it ? [10:34] here's disk_var.sh: http://pastebin.ca/745361 [10:36] this includes mounted /tmp/targets: http://pastebin.ca/745362 [10:39] meandtheshell (~markus@85.127.117.23) joined #fai. [10:44] sobersabre: how does you .../fai/disk_config/... file look like? [10:46] sobersabre: look at /usr/sbin/setup_harddisks, this is the file that sets boot {R,B}OOT_PARTITION variables [10:48] sobersabre: BOOT_PARTITION will be set to the partition where "boot" is in the flags. If no partition is marked as boot, then it will be set to the partition that get's mounted to "/". [10:48] mfl_ (~mfl@adonis.fnb.maschinenbau.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:48] sobersabre: and of course it must be a primary partition [10:49] sobersabre: maybe "/dev/hda5 on /tmp/target/boot type ext2 (rw,noatime)" isn't primary? [10:55] h01ger: thanks for your help. I'm still using fai 3.1.8 and a custom fai installation kernel based on http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/Using_customized_kernels_with_FAI and it seems to work so far [10:56] schurig, cheers! [11:13] schurig: is being boot's primary something FAI specific ? [11:14] schurig: thanks for the input, btw! [11:14] I will make boot primary now. [11:15] sobersabre: not sure, maybe boot loaders like to have the boot partition in a primary partition, too. But /usr/sbin/setup_harddisks for sure scans for the "boot" option ONLY when the partition is a primary one. [11:15] this is ... a bit bad news. [11:15] :) [11:15] but, I will live up with it. [11:16] I mean, who said that linux will be the 1st or 2nd OS on the system ... [11:16] and if it has to be 4th, we're stuck :) [11:21] sobersabre: if setup_harddisks really uses the boot flag only when it's an primary partition, it would be nict if you could file a bug report for this [11:34] why wouldn't it be nicer if I patched the script.... [11:34] and issue it. [11:35] if I define the SERVER variable in the classname.var file, would a successfully installed machine make itself boot via -o localboot ? [11:36] ErKa (~keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [11:39] schurig: where have you found in setup_harddisk anything related to check of /boot being primary ? [11:39] I cannot find it. [11:39] can you refer me to the line ? [11:39] sobersabre: first, my info is about fai 3.1.8, not 3.2.1 [11:40] sobersabre: then, in /usr/sbin/setup_harddisks, look for the string $BootPartition [11:42] sobersabre: sure you can also send the patch to the BTS. But a bug report would be very nice [11:44] kurze frage: wo oder wie ganau wird die disk_var.sh geschrieben? [11:46] sobersabre: then, in line 443, you see that $BootPartition gets set. But this statement is in a bigger if there it reads if ($command eq "primary") (at line 434) [11:47] williamvergara: in /usr/sbin/setup_harddisks [11:47] williamvergara: wie genau: use the source, luke! [11:48] lol [11:48] danke [11:53] lazyb0y, dank you für die minutes! [11:56] wo sind die minutes? [12:06] meandtheshell (~markus@85.127.117.23) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [12:09] http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/Extremadura2007MeetingMinutes [12:24] ErKa (keryell@m5.wifi.enstb.org) joined #fai. [12:29] schurig: I don't have 3.1.8 [12:31] but, you're right [12:31] I am there. [12:32] I need to learn the flow a bit, so I don't messs it up. [12:32] Mrfai: generally, the boot partition is set inside the block which is entered only for primary partitions [12:32] exactly as schurig has said. [12:32] schurig: do you know what is preved ? [12:41] sobersabre: what's the meaning of "preved"? I'm just a poor german guy :-) [12:44] preved? You mean preserved? [12:58] itais (~itais@62.81.119.138.static.user.ono.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [13:03] oh, ok. [13:03] Mrfai: no. [13:05] schurig: no problem I thought, [13:05] something else. [13:05] :) [13:28] alleeHol (~ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de) joined #fai. [13:31] torkel_ (torkel@monsun.hpc2n.umu.se) joined #fai. [13:31] masACC (maswan@kennedy.acc.umu.se) joined #fai. [13:31] Mrfai_ (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [13:31] stockhol1 (~andreas@petrus.schuldei.org) joined #fai. 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[13:43] torkel (torkel@monsun.hpc2n.umu.se) got lost in the net-split. [13:43] lazyb0y (~henning@v683.vanager.de) got lost in the net-split. [13:43] juri_ (Uay6R74Bjb@volumehost.com) got lost in the net-split. [13:43] stockholm (~andreas@petrus.schuldei.org) got lost in the net-split. [13:43] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) got lost in the net-split. [13:43] allee (~ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de) got lost in the net-split. [13:44] Nick change: stockhol1 -> stockholm [13:46] hmm, wierd. [13:46] I have added files to fai/config/files/ [13:46] the same way I did with the ssh keys [13:46] ssh keys were transferred. [13:46] but the files - didn't [13:47] I have created ./etc/profile.d/java.sh/ [13:47] and the file hasn [13:47] 't been transferrred. [13:47] sobersabre: you need some script to copy them in [13:48] .oO( fcopy -r / ) :-) [13:48] IOW: man fcopy [13:48] h01ger: *ggg* [13:49] so ... for all the written files there exists a corresponding line somewhere ? [13:49] hmmm [13:49] Action: sobersabre burries himself into the mud [13:49] sobersabre, yes. or you use "fcopy -r /", then you only need one line [13:49] multi user dangeon... [13:50] thanks. [13:50] sobersabre, do read man fcopy [13:52] hm. how come that update-grub replaces sda with hda in menu.lst? [14:01] ok thanks! [14:01] I am already there :) [14:02] oz_, it's explained in menu-lst, or you can read man update-grub [14:03] going home [14:09] I also have another problem with grub: it doesn't _detect_ windows on /dev/hda1, thus doesn't add its entry in the menu. [14:14] bye leute [14:15] williamvergara (~chatzilla@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:15] hmm... bye mensch, williamvergara [15:08] ErKa (keryell@m5.wifi.enstb.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [15:43] ok, must go [15:43] bye all [15:43] sobersabre (~bilbo@89-138-78-195.bb.netvision.net.il) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:09] itais (~itais@84.79.145.30) joined #fai. 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