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| 08:50 allee | moin |
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| 10:51 h01ger | mikap, do you have virtualbox 1.5 running with usb-support? |
| 10:51 h01ger | i read your blog and used strace, but i can find "usb" in the strace... |
| 10:56 h01ger | mikap, in the opensource editition or the propietary |
| 10:56 h01ger | ? |
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| 11:09 mikap | h01ger: I'm using the version from virtualbox.org (so not the Debian packages from the debian pool) |
| 11:09 mikap | h01ger: and yes, IIRC usb worked (though not booting from USB IIRC) |
| 11:10 mikap | though would have to check that again to verify it ;) don't use the usb stuff inside virtualbox because what I would need is booting from usb |
| Action: h01ger too |
| 11:11 h01ger | if i run "vboxmanage list usbhost" i get errors... |
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| 11:38 mikap | h01ger: ah ok; I'll check it if I have access to my system again |
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| 12:10 allee | Mrfai: I've answered you nfs-common question on bts. |
| 12:11 allee | to fai debian users: is the chroot size in debian 330 MB for a unmodifed fai-* installaiton as given in the doc? Du -sh in gutsy gives 383 MB |
| Action: h01ger blames python |
| 12:12 h01ger | u.a. |
| Action: allee kicks python |
| Action: allee ponders if it's worth fixing the size in the docs for (k)ubuntu |
| 12:14 Mrfai | no it's not worth it. I may change the guide and say this is the size for a Debian nfsroot |
| 12:15 allee | Mrfai: right, maybe a README.ubuntu listing the small diff debian<->ubuntu is the way to go (if I'll find more items) |
| 12:16 siretart | indeed |
| 12:17 allee | Mrfai: ah, one more: License use often old FSF address '...Temple Place...'. They moved to Franklin Street |
| 12:19 allee | Hits for Franklin 1, for Temple 25 |
| 12:20 allee | hi siretart |
| 12:20 siretart | hi allee |
| 12:21 allee | btw. I've now a package that boots demohosts (still errors). (== Head in uploaded trunk-ubuntu) |
| 12:21 Mrfai | allee: please submit bug reports for whose little changes, otherwise I will forget to change those |
| Action: h01ger points Mrfai to linda+lintian. the ones in unstable |
| Action: siretart looks at http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~fai/fai/trunk-ubuntu/changes |
| 12:23 siretart | ahh. that's how I expected it to be. Mrfai should be able to easily merge patches like http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~fai/fai/trunk-ubuntu/bundle/allee%40kubuntu.org-20070925221030-fi57h7dy4yr6816w/bundle.txt :) |
| 12:26 siretart | allee: http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~fai/fai/trunk-ubuntu/revision/allee%40kubuntu.org-20070926000234-tmemfln2qjs2h66a?start_revid=allee%40kubuntu.org-20070926002108-fa766hanm0gac36j#bin/fai is a very good catch! I wondered why your expr didn't work for me |
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| 12:58 allee | siretart: :) |
| Action: allee fires up reportbug -bts debian |
| 12:59 siretart | allee: If you don't have more changes in your pipe, feel free to upload your package to our PPA. do you know how to do it? |
| 13:02 allee | siretart: I once read about it. and wasn't there a ppaput or so? I'll find it again I hope ;) |
| 13:03 siretart | allee: ppaput is for reviewing purposes. you don't need that for this |
| 13:03 siretart | allee: http://paste.debian.net/38068 <- add this to your ~/.dput.cf |
| 13:04 siretart | when uploading, double check the Distribution: line of your changes file |
| 13:04 siretart | in my last uploads, I batch uploaded all backports in the same upload. They mustn't contain the orig.tar.gz anyway. |
| 13:05 siretart | well, not in the same upload, but without waiting for the ACCEPTED mail from the first upload |
| 13:05 allee | siretart: oh, no .orig.tar.gz. So like in debian archive? only once for new upstream tarball, then only diffs? |
| 13:06 siretart | allee: like in the ubuntu archive. the orig.tar.gz must be contained in the first upload only |
| 13:06 allee | they take tarball from the distro archive? Cool (and dialup friendly) |
| 13:07 siretart | but I already uploaded the fai-3.2.1 tarball |
| Action: allee feeds debian bts, then cares about the ppa pkg |
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| 13:47 glance | Mrfai: the nolocking bug is that the $romountopts or what the name is, isn't exportet from fai. |
| 13:48 glance | because the get-config-dir-nfs script is a script and not a function it doesn't get the $romountopt variable. |
| 13:48 glance | romountopt is the name |
| 13:49 glance | line 35 of fai |
| 13:49 glance | and that one should have a -n in it because mtab is a symlink to /proc/mounts |
| 13:51 Mrfai | glance: yep, romountopt will be exported in the next fai version. I will also add -n |
| 13:52 Mrfai | I just added thos changes to my fai version, but did not commit it yet. |
| 13:55 glance | check |
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| 18:37 allee | mhm, grub is installed after memtest86 and memtest (update-grub in postinst) complains /boot/grub not found. Same on debian? |
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| 18:55 Mrfai | allee: paste you log file to paste.debian.net |
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| 19:08 allee | Mrfai: until my fai install finished again ... |
| 19:08 allee | grub/postinst: use /var/log/fai/disk_var.sh but when I reboot it's in /var/lib/fai/ |
| 19:09 allee | and why $target if it's designed to work only with softinst ;) |
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| 19:27 allee | Mrfai: software.log http://paste.debian.net/38082 Searching for memtest8|grub shows the ordering problem |
| 19:31 Mrfai | ok, this is really a memtest86+ problem. If the ubuntu version of memtest86 need grub, it must have a depends on it. |
| 19:33 Mrfai | maybe related to #129614 in LP |
| 19:33 siretart | ubuntu changes https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/memtest86+ |
| 19:35 allee | siretart: I fail to see the related change/fix :( |
| 19:37 allee | Mrfai: yeap that's the bug |
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| 19:38 Mrfai | In debian etch in memtest86+.postinst update-grub is not called. This is done in the ubuntu version. |
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| 19:39 allee | siretart: your opinion where I should keep a todo/notes lists. FAIwiki. TODO.ubunt in source package somewere in lauchpad? |
| 19:40 siretart | how about lp bugs? |
| 19:40 siretart | so we can make comments via email |
| 19:41 Mrfai | I think the faiwiki is a good place to keep ubuntu related todo's and notes |
| 19:41 siretart | *nod* |
| 19:43 siretart | for really small notes/todo lists etc this is perhaps the easiest |
| 19:44 allee | Mrfai: any preference how to name ubuntu centric pages? UbuntuWhatever? or ... |
| 19:45 Mrfai | FAIonUbuntu? |
| 19:45 Mrfai | FAI ist natuerlich ueberfluessig im faiwiki |
| 19:46 Mrfai | RunningOnUbuntu? |
| 19:46 siretart | UbuntuTeam/Todo |
| 19:46 siretart | UbuntuTeam/Minutes |
| 19:46 siretart | ... |
| 19:47 allee | ah, I like UbuntuTeam prefix |
| 19:47 Mrfai | good idea |
| 19:47 allee | for now I will simple remove memtest86 and add to UbuntuTeam/Todo |
| 19:55 Mrfai | memtest86+ on debian has a longer test in postin before calling update-grub: |
| 19:55 Mrfai | if test -e /boot/grub/grub.cfg && which update-grub |
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| 19:57 Mrfai | seems that ubuntu is just too old. Debian bug #425221 was fixed in 1.70-3. So ubuntu should update to debians version |
| 20:04 allee | Mrfai: interesting. Only system installed from kubuntu lifecd there is no /boot/grub/grub.cfg and my sys uses for sure grub |
| 20:07 Mrfai | seems that grub.cfg is new. I also didn't knew it before. |
| 20:07 allee | so grub too old too :( And I had the impression using ubuntu mean living on the edge ;) |
| 20:19 allee | Mrfai: uhm, problem with wiki confirmation e-mails? received the mail. clicked the link -> invalid confirmation code (valid until 3-Okt was in email) |
| 20:20 siretart | what is too old? grub? |
| 20:21 siretart | grub | 0.97-29 | unstable | source, amd64, hurd-i386, i386 |
| 20:21 siretart | grub | 0.97-29ubuntu4 | gutsy | source, amd64, i386 |
| 20:22 allee | siretart: ah, you know by accident why there no grub.cfg in gutsy? debian test for it in memtest86+ postinst. Nevertheless I've non here. |
| 20:23 siretart | err, what's grub.cfg? where is it supposed to be? |
| 20:23 allee | [21:56] <Mrfai> if test -e /boot/grub/grub.cfg && which update-grub |
| 20:24 siretart | I don't have a /boot/grub/grub.cfg either |
| 20:24 siretart | is that an alternative name for /boot/grub/menu.lst? |
| 20:25 allee | siretart: is completely new for me too |
| 20:26 siretart | http://patches.ubuntu.com/by-release/atomic/debian/m/memtest86+/memtest86+_1.70-3.patch |
| 20:26 siretart | hmmm |
| 20:26 Mrfai | maybe used in grub2? I don't know. |
| 20:26 Mrfai | But the newer memtest package in debian seems to fix the bug |
| 20:27 siretart | wll, since thats no new upstream version, lets just fixup that merge here: http://merges.ubuntu.com/m/memtest86+/ |
| 20:28 allee | siretart: how to fixup. As gutsy has no grub.cfg what's the right test? |
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| 20:31 siretart | there seem to be some bashism reported in LP |
| 20:32 siretart | hmm |
| 20:32 allee | okay. /boot/grub in not in grub package or any other. Postinst of grub and memtest use simple update-grub and update-grub abort when there's no boot/grub dir |
| 20:33 allee | eh, /boot/grup dir should not appear from nowhere |
| 20:34 siretart | mmh, tired now |
| 20:34 siretart | allee: if you want to finish the merge today, feel free. If not, I'll finish it tomorrow |
| 20:34 siretart | good night, folks! |
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| 20:40 allee | siretart: I stick with testing fai for the rest of the night |
| 20:40 allee | siretart: sleep well |
| 20:46 lazyb0y | siretart: what's the best way to install gutsy (on real hardware, for now)? |
| 20:47 lazyb0y | are there cd's yet? |
| 20:47 lazyb0y | hmm, too late, I guess... |
| 20:48 lazyb0y | ah, cdimage.ubuntu.cim is the answer... |
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| 22:00 MT | mikap? |
| 22:01 MT | mikap, I'll respond to your request on FAI_CONFIG_SRC via the BTS... |
| 22:04 Mrfai | I think we need to work on the FAI developers workshop on catching error codes during make-fai-nfsroot and dirinstall and other parts |
| 22:06 MT | Mrfai, I was talking about #444213 |
| 22:06 MT | fai-client: support for softupdate without need for FAI_CONFIG_SRC |
| 22:07 MT | IMHO this report is simply invalid |
| Action: lazyb0y just replied to this |
| 22:11 lazyb0y | does CONFIG_SRC already understand file:// urls? |
| 22:12 Mrfai | yep get-config-dir-file exists |
| 22:13 MT | jap |
| 22:13 MT | though I'm not sure whether it's documented... |
| 22:14 MT | hmm, at least not in the fai-guide |
| 22:14 MT | but the comment in fai.conf contains it |
| 22:15 MT | # how to access the fai config space |
| 22:15 MT | # default if undefined here: nfs://`hostname`/$FAI_CONFIGDIR |
| 22:15 MT | # supported URL-types: nfs, file, cvs, cvs+ssh, svn+file, svn+http, |
| 22:15 MT | # git, git+http, |
| 22:15 MT | #FAI_CONFIG_SRC=nfs://yourservername$FAI_CONFIGDIR |
| 22:22 mikap | MT: ok, feel free :) |
| 22:22 MT | feel free ... to do what? |
| 22:23 MT | if it's about the comment to your bug report - I already commented on it, you should have received an email already |
| 22:23 mikap | MT: regarding "I'll respond to your request on FAI_CONFIG_SRC via the BTS..." I meant, sorry - read your mail right now |
| 22:24 mikap | if FAI_CONFIG_SRC is unset: where is the config stuff of fai dirinstall by default then? |
| 22:25 mikap | h01ger: VBoxManage list usbhost > vbox_usb.txt => http://grml.org/tmp/vbox_usb.txt |
| 22:26 MT | I think FAI_CONFIG_SRC must be set in any case |
| 22:26 mikap | h01ger: you know the http://michael-prokop.at/blog/2007/07/11/virtualbox-usb/ problem, right? |
| 22:26 mikap | MT: I definitely haven't set it :) |
| 22:26 MT | but what's so wrong about setting it to a sane value? |
| 22:26 mikap | MT: that's why I never understood why I should have to set it at all ;) |
| 22:26 h01ger | mikap, yes + thx. thats with the non-ose version, right? |
| 22:26 mikap | MT: cause I don't know what it should be for ;) |
| Action: h01ger made himself a customized d-i cd, because usb-booting doesnt work anyway :/ |
| 22:27 mikap | h01ger: yepp, 1.4.0 |
| 22:27 MT | a "sane value" cannot be guessed easily |
| 22:27 Mrfai | normally FAI_CONFIG_SRC will be appended to /srv/fai/nfsroot/etc/fai/fai.conf which is then read by the install clients. |
| 22:27 MT | _you_ will definitely know a sane value |
| 22:28 mikap | MT: it would be OK for me to set it to a "sane value" if I don't have to deal with it any further; though I don't know yet what would be the benefit (instead of just not setting it at all) and what's the easiest solution |
| 22:28 mikap | % grep -r FAI_CONFIG_SRC /etc/grml/fai |
| 22:28 mikap | /etc/grml/fai/fai.conf:#FAI_CONFIG_SRC=nfs://yourservername$FAI_CONFIGDIR |
| 22:29 mikap | and I'm invoking 'fai -C/etc/grml/fai ...' |
| 22:30 MT | well, then copy your config space from the NFS server to some directory |
| 22:30 mikap | MT: NFS-server? I don't have one |
| 22:30 mikap | that line is not activated (see '^#...') |
| 22:30 mikap | it's just the default from simple-example of FAI, never activated it |
| 22:30 MT | well, but somehow you got your chroot dir-installed, didn't you? |
| 22:31 mikap | MT: sure, running fai dirinstall ;) |
| 22:31 MT | well, using which config? |
| 22:31 mikap | which config do you mean? :) |
| 22:31 mikap | sorry, I really don't know what FAI_CONFIG_SRC is for, never used that for dirinstall ;) |
| 22:31 MT | running fai dirinstall also requires a config space |
| 22:32 mikap | I definitely didn't define a config space |
| 22:32 MT | hmm, Mrfai, was it the the simple example he used? |
| 22:32 mikap | what's supposed to be stored inside this config space? |
| 22:32 lazyb0y | mikap: the default is used - /srv/fai/config |
| 22:32 mikap | lazyb0y: I don't have such a directory |
| 22:33 lazyb0y | hmm |
| 22:33 lazyb0y | strange, then |
| 22:33 lazyb0y | but somewhere, you must have it |
| 22:33 mikap | exaclty that's why I'm so such confused :) softupdate told me to use a config space which I never needed so far ;) |
| 22:33 lazyb0y | where do you define your package lists, etc? |
| 22:34 Mrfai | FAI_CONFIG_SRC is for the isntall client. They must know how/where to access the config space. |
| 22:34 mikap | ls /etc/grml/fai/config |
| 22:34 mikap | class/ debconf/ hooks/ package_config/ scripts/ |
| 22:34 lazyb0y | ah! |
| 22:34 Mrfai | config space is not the same a config dir that is specified with fai -C |
| 22:34 MT | well, there it is ... |
| 22:34 mikap | /etc/grml/fai/fai.conf:FAI_CONFIGDIR=/etc/grml/fai/config |
| 22:34 mikap | => but that's not FAI_CONFIG_SRC?! |
| 22:35 MT | FAI_CONFIG_SRC="file:///etc/grml/fai/config" |
| 22:35 lazyb0y | mikap: Mrfai: it is the same from the contents |
| 22:35 lazyb0y | this is obviously a bit confusing |
| 22:35 mikap | so I should just give it a try with FAI_CONFIG_SRC="file:///etc/grml/fai/config"? |
| 22:35 MT | yep |
| 22:35 Mrfai | yep |
| 22:35 mikap | great :) |
| 22:35 mikap | I will try that tomorrow, bed is calling ;) |
| 22:35 lazyb0y | mikap: if you copied that into the chroot, yes |
| 22:36 mikap | lazyb0y: not manually at least ;) |
| 22:36 MT | mikap, please change your bugtitle |
| 22:36 MT | to |
| 22:36 lazyb0y | otherwise, as I wrote in the bts, bind.mount it into the chroot |
| 22:36 MT | documentation of FAI_CONFIG_SRC is incomplete and not clear enough |
| 22:36 mikap | MT: feel free to adjust it to whatever is more appropriate |
| 22:36 MT | well, it's your bug report :-) |
| 22:36 Mrfai | mikap: I really like to see you at the fai developers workhop. Will you try to attend? |
| 22:36 lazyb0y | mikap: I'd guess dirinstall doesn't copy the configspace into the chroot, but i might be wrong |
| 22:37 mikap | as soon as I checked out whether it does what it need and if I understand the code I will provide a patch for the docs |
| 22:37 MT | thx!! |
| 22:37 mikap | Mrfai: that's the one on 8/9. november, right? |
| 22:37 lazyb0y | hmm, but it copies /etc/fai, and as you "accidentally" have the configspace in /etc/fai, it might be there |
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| 22:37 lazyb0y | _normally_ it is not automatically there, e.g. when it's at the default location /srv/fai/config |
| 22:38 MT | guys, I'll leave for bed ... |
| Action: MT says good night! |
| 22:38 lazyb0y | good idea :) |
| 22:39 mikap | good n8! :) |
| 22:39 Mrfai | mikap: 9-11 november |
| Action: Mrfai bed is calling too |
| 22:41 mikap | Mrfai: right, a pretty cheap flight would be available for Graz=>Köln and back, but IIRC just on 8th and 12th :-/ so I would need a place where I could stay in that time (assuming that I manage it to have time) |
| 22:42 lazyb0y | mikap: don't stay at Mrfai's place - he has dangerous cats! |
| 22:42 Mrfai | ok, first let's see if we get enough money to held the workshop. |
| 22:42 mikap | lazyb0y: *gggg* |
| 22:42 mikap | Mrfai: ok |
| Action: mikap is back tomorrow, n8 :) |
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| Action: lazyb0y just installed gutsy and tried fai-setup... error log follows :( |
| 23:33 allee | lazyb0y: pastebin. I've almost ready to upload gutsy ppa package, with contains several fixes: https://code.launchpad.net/~fai/fai/trunk-ubuntu |
| 23:34 allee | lazyb0y: im rebuiding nfsroot, then a pxe demohost install. and with luck then an upload to ppa |
| --- Thu Sep 27 2007 |