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| 11:50 \sh | soviel zum thema combots |
| 11:51 h01ger | heh |
| 11:51 \sh | Mrfai, lies heise golem und mein blog...dann weisst warum ich nicht auf der froscon reden konnte ,) |
| 11:51 h01ger | blog-url? |
| 11:52 \sh | www.sourcecode.de |
| 11:52 h01ger | danke |
| 11:53 h01ger | "Für alle die keine Suchmaschine haben:" ist ne schoene Formulierung, muß ich mir merken :) (gerade woanders geelsen, aber passt hier auch) |
| 11:53 h01ger | auch ne schoene URL :) |
| 12:03 Mrfai | \sh: hab ich schon mitbekommen. |
| 12:04 \sh | h01ger, und schon richtig alt.... |
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| 14:56 Mrfai | siretart, allee kommt ihr zum FAI Entwicklerworkshop? |
| 14:56 siretart | Mrfai: tu ich mich echt schwer das dienstlich zu begruenden :( |
| 15:00 h01ger | siretart, nutzt ihr fai? |
| 15:00 h01ger | dann sollte das doch easy sein.. |
| 15:02 siretart | h01ger: naja, wir nutzen das fuer unsere studentenarbeitsplaetze |
| 15:02 siretart | und systemadministration ist nicht meine hauptaufgabe, sondern laeuft hier eher 'nebenher' |
| 15:02 siretart | ich hab schon UDS-Boston genehmigt bekommen, da will ich noch ne FAI-BoF halten |
| 15:03 h01ger | ah. wasn deine hauptaufgabe? |
| 15:03 siretart | http://www4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~tartler/ |
| 15:03 siretart | forschung im bereich systemsicherheit |
| 15:03 siretart | speziell, cryptofilesysteme |
| 15:04 h01ger | hmja. (hypsch, aber wirklich nich so ganz einfach die begruendung dann :) |
| 15:05 siretart | :) |
| Nick change: \sh -> \sh_away |
| 15:09 Mrfai | siretart: da es aber am Wochenende stattfindet, kannst du es auch in deiner Freizeit machen. Wir muessen dir dann nur die Fahrt bezahlen. |
| 15:10 siretart | achso, ich dachter der sei unter der woche |
| 15:10 Mrfai | ne freitag spaet nachmittag bis Sonntag. |
| 15:12 siretart | oh. das ist genau das wochenende nach boston |
| 15:12 siretart | puh... |
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| 16:04 Mrfai | siretart: sollte jetzt nicht das meeting auf #ubuntu-meeting sein? auf welchem SErver? |
| 16:05 Mrfai | sorrt, war utc, also in 2 stunden |
| 16:06 h01ger | /whois siretart sagt mir, dass das auf oftc ist.. |
| 16:06 h01ger | aeh, freenode |
| 16:07 allee | Mrfai: Ich weiss noch nicht ob ich komme. Meine Familie sieht mich nur am Wochende. So fuer mich ist Fr-So problematisch. Es wuerde mich reizen, aber bis jetzt konnte ich mein Gewissen nicht ueberzeugen :( |
| 16:09 siretart | err, genau. ist auf freenode |
| 16:09 Mrfai | ok, kann ich gut verstehen. Vielleicht bist du ja in der Zeit auch mal online dabei. |
| 16:09 siretart | bin noch an der uni, muss noch heimfahren :) |
| 16:09 Mrfai | ich muss auch noich heimfahren |
| 16:11 h01ger | home is where my laptop is :) |
| 16:17 allee | lol |
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| 16:43 torkel | siretart: will there be any meeting tonight? Or is it cancelled? |
| 16:53 allee | torkel: yes in ~ 1 hour #ubuntu-meeting on freenode |
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| 17:28 siretart | torkel: right, I'm here now :) |
| 17:33 allee | siretart: if live-initramfs recent enough in gutsy? make-fai-chboot complain: Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) |
| 17:33 allee | http://paste.debian.net/38002 |
| 17:33 siretart | >> rmadison -u ubuntu live-initramfs |
| 17:33 siretart | live-initramfs | 1.102.1-1 | gutsy/universe | source, all |
| 17:34 siretart | live-initramfs | 1.102.1-1 | testing | source, all |
| 17:34 siretart | live-initramfs | 1.104.1-1 | unstable | source, all |
| 17:34 siretart | hmm.. daniel is making new releases fairly quickly :/ |
| 17:35 siretart | allee: your paste doesn't really indicate a problem in live-initramfs. that package is only used in the booted nfsroot. you are in nfsroot creation time |
| 17:35 allee | siretart: 1.102 you what you used in backports but as the log shows make-fai-nfsroot in not happy at all on gutsy |
| 17:38 siretart | I have to admit that I didn't test that in gutsy yet |
| 17:40 allee | siretart: np. I'll do. I've never used live chroot, so currently I a bit lost what's normal output and what's a real error |
| 17:40 allee | nevertheless openpty error does not look like a waring ;) |
| 17:45 Mrfai | seems that /dev/pts is not mounted inside the fai nfsroot. |
| 17:46 Mrfai | but I'm not sure if this is done normally with Debian |
| 17:52 allee | -v tells me that error is generated in postinst scripts when the additional pkgs are added to nfsroot. |
| 17:52 Mrfai | sieht so aus als ob nur /proc in die nfsroot waehrend make-fai-nfsroot gemountet wird |
| 17:52 Mrfai | /srv/fai/nfsroot/...dev/pts ist nur ein normales directory |
| 17:53 siretart | hm. also ich hab in den ubuntu-fai in /usr/sbin/fai nen check eingebaut, der schaut ob proc da ist und mounted das ggf |
| 17:53 siretart | kann also gut sein dass noch mehr 'pseudo filesysteme' wie /srv/ /dev/pts, etc fehlen |
| 17:53 allee | okay ich such mal und baus ein |
| 17:53 siretart | allee: schau doch mal am anfang von /usr/sbin/fai nach dem proc check, und erweitere das mal um pts |
| 17:54 Mrfai | #144296 in ltsp (Ubuntu) |
| 17:55 siretart | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/144296 |
| 17:55 siretart | ? |
| Action: Mrfai geht mal kurz mampfen |
| 17:55 Mrfai | siretart: yep |
| 17:56 siretart | Mrfai: guten hunger! |
| 17:56 lazyb0y | hm, wo isn' das ubuntu meeting? |
| 17:57 siretart | lazyb0y: fuer #ubuntu-meeting/freenode wars angekuendigt |
| 17:57 siretart | meinetwegen koennen wir auch hier machen, wenns lieber ist |
| 17:57 lazyb0y | siretart: nene, bin nur grad hektisch an den rechner gehuepft und war zu faul zum nachlesen :) |
| 17:58 siretart | :) |
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| 18:38 siretart | glance: around? |
| 19:03 siretart | how do you feel about the meeting? |
| 19:04 torkel | zqad: are you intrested in the Ubuntu FAI team too? |
| 19:04 allee | was fine! |
| Action: lazyb0y has to go to dinner - people are waiting... |
| 19:04 siretart | lazyb0y: have a great meal! |
| 19:04 allee | let's have a break for 30 min and then finish 'house keeping' topic? |
| 19:05 siretart | ok, I'll try to be here |
| 19:05 siretart | if not, I see that I make meeting minutes from the log, and post them to linux-fai-devel |
| 19:05 Mrfai | good meeting. Let's hope that all our plans will be really done. |
| 19:06 Mrfai | yep, good idea to poste the minues to linux-fai-devel |
| 19:06 siretart | Mrfai: just curious, do you have activated your launchpad account? |
| 19:06 siretart | gnarf, I could have checked myself |
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| 19:07 Mrfai | siretart: no. |
| 19:07 siretart | ok, we'll triage and forward ubuntu bugs to debian anyways |
| 19:07 Mrfai | I think I do not need this account. |
| 19:08 siretart | you would need it for publishing bzr branches, managing fai bugs in launchpad, creating bts links, creating specifications, etc. |
| 19:08 siretart | but I agree that you might not be interested in that at all |
| 19:08 Mrfai | I can help the ubuntu FAI team without using launchpad. It's too much for me if I also need to work with launchpad. |
| 19:09 siretart | Mrfai: okay, no problem |
| 19:09 siretart | just for the case that for some reason we currently don't think of you reconsider this, have a look at: https://launchpad.net/~lange |
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| 19:15 Mrfai | Hi i-R2D2, do you have a real name? |
| 19:17 allee | OT: lange? heck, noooooo. Create mrfai and mark lange as duplicate of mrfai! :) |
| 19:23 siretart | hehe |
| 19:23 siretart | sorry, need to leave now as well, cu later! |
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| 20:08 allee | what the h***. Problem was: stuck at 'boot:' no way to type, but alt-ctrl-del worked. Workaround: Not to use the KVM switch and but connect keyboard directly and kernel booted without prompting ' boot:' ? |
| 20:16 torkel | allee: are you using lilo? |
| 20:21 allee | torkel: heh, no. This was when I try to pxe boot. And removing usb cable of KVM switch made 'boot:' disappear |
| 20:22 allee | right now I 'fight' with start-stop-daemon being dummy in nfs root so sshd daemon is not startet |
| 20:23 torkel | allee: ah, you you only got that far... |
| 20:24 Mrfai | IIRC sshd is started directly by the fai script, not via start-stop daemon |
| 20:24 Mrfai | yep: [ "$flag_sshd" -a -x /usr/sbin/sshd ] && /usr/sbin/sshd |
| 20:25 torkel | allee: hm, you could try with another version of syslinux. Every version of it usually has different issues :-) |
| 20:25 allee | okay, so maybe bug is somewhere else |
| 20:26 allee | right now it fails so mount /srv/fai/config. Let's look at the logs ... |
| 20:48 zqad | torkel: well, i'll probably work towards aix now..but i sure am interested in general. whether or not i will work with fai on ubuntu is up to hpc2n :) glance is the faimaster at acc, so.. |
| 20:55 allee | Mrfai: nfs-client is not in NFSROOT. Do mounting config space fails. bug? or is default now one of git, svn ....? |
| 21:03 Mrfai | there's not nfs-client package in debian |
| 21:03 Mrfai | NFS is still default |
| 21:03 torkel | zqad: oki. I thought you were involved in FAI at ACC too |
| 21:04 zqad | torkel: only for the aix-part, probably |
| 21:04 Mrfai | allee: show me your logs at paste.debian.net |
| 21:06 torkel | nor in gutsy. It is replaced with nfs-common. |
| 21:06 torkel | zqad: using FAI to install AIX sounds fun :-) |
| 21:06 zqad | torkel: .. please shoot me :P |
| 21:06 zqad | torkel: it's mostly merging znikkes changes |
| 21:07 Mrfai | even nfs-common is not installed in the nfsroot. |
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| 21:09 allee | ah, show me the logs reminds me: why isn't the ssh/cfengine key. saved by make-fai-nfsroot and restored on rebuild by default. All the man in the middle warning are !$#!$:) |
| 21:10 Mrfai | allee: the ssh keys can be saved using make-fai-nfsroot -p |
| 21:10 allee | oh, *blush*. Nevertheless it should be the default IMHO |
| 21:11 Mrfai | allee: good idea, please file a wishlist bugreport for that |
| 21:13 allee | Mrfai: fai.log: http://paste.debian.net/38023 |
| 21:13 allee | ^^ with nfs-common added to NFSROOT and nfsroot rebuild |
| 21:14 Mrfai | mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking. |
| 21:14 Mrfai | this seems to be the problem |
| 21:14 Mrfai | check this on your install server: |
| 21:14 Mrfai | rpcinfo -p localhost |
| 21:15 Mrfai | you should see nfs and nlockmgr. But I'm sure fai mount using nolock |
| 21:16 allee | Mrfai: all there: http://paste.debian.net/38024 |
| 21:17 Mrfai | allee: looks good. |
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| 21:17 Mrfai | try to mount manually with -o nolock |
| 21:18 Mrfai | I wondering about this message: Either use '-o nolocks' |
| 21:18 Mrfai | IMO it's nolock, not nolocks |
| 21:19 allee | Mrfai: can't set permision on /etc/mtab. it's a link to /proc/mounts with mode 111 |
| 21:19 Mrfai | mount -n does not write /etc/mtab |
| 21:20 allee | thx. now it's mounted |
| Action: allee search for the mount command to add an echo ... |
| 21:21 Mrfai | lib/get-config-dir-nfs |
| 21:21 Mrfai | there, it's mounted without using -n |
| 21:22 Mrfai | romountopt="-o async,noatime,nolock,ro,actimeo=1800" |
| 21:26 allee | Mrfai: strange. echo shows nothing at all for romountopt. |
| 21:27 Mrfai | add set -x in lib/get-config-dir-nfs, this will show you each line when executed |
| 21:27 Mrfai | romountopt may be not exported to all shells |
| 21:28 allee | Mrfai: I c&p the mount $romout ... and added an echo infront of it. |
| 21:28 allee | Mrfai: so really looks like a export problem |
| 21:29 Mrfai | but why does it work when typed manally? |
| 21:34 allee | Mrfai: I mean $romountopt is empty (with set -x too) |
| 21:34 allee | I've added export romountopt= to /usr/sbin/fai let's see .. |
| 21:35 allee | Mrfai: ta ta. my data are gone. sfdisk at work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:35 allee | data on test client I mean :) |
| 21:35 allee | Mrfai: thx a thousand times! |
| 21:36 Mrfai | ok I will check why I had no problems with debian |
| Action: allee wonders if /bin/sh -> /bin/bash would work without export ... |
| 21:42 allee | No, fails with sh = bash too. so no autoexport bash magic |
| 21:51 Mrfai | allee: romountopt is also empty in Debian orgirignal FAI 3.2.1. OK this is a bug. |
| 21:52 Mrfai | Fix: just define romountopt in get-config-dir-nfs. It's only used there |
| 21:54 Mrfai | wrong. It's also used in subroutines-linux. |
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| 22:06 Mrfai | just adding export in front of romountopt=.... is sufficient. |
| 22:08 Mrfai | bug solved. suspend to sleep ;-) |
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