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[11:24] Nick change: MT -> Guest1094 [11:24] Guest1094 (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:24] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [11:43] \sh (~shermann@server3.servereyes.de) joined #fai. [11:50] <\sh> soviel zum thema combots [11:51] heh [11:51] <\sh> Mrfai, lies heise golem und mein blog...dann weisst warum ich nicht auf der froscon reden konnte ,) [11:51] blog-url? [11:52] <\sh> www.sourcecode.de [11:52] danke [11:53] "Für alle die keine Suchmaschine haben:" ist ne schoene Formulierung, muß ich mir merken :) (gerade woanders geelsen, aber passt hier auch) [11:53] auch ne schoene URL :) [12:03] \sh: hab ich schon mitbekommen. [12:04] <\sh> h01ger, und schon richtig alt.... [12:50] ErKa (~keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [12:51] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) joined #fai. [13:04] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [13:16] ErKa (keryell@m5.wifi.enstb.org) joined #fai. [13:40] sanso|work (~sanso@194.120.17.62) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:36] ErKa (keryell@m5.wifi.enstb.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [14:56] siretart, allee kommt ihr zum FAI Entwicklerworkshop? [14:56] Mrfai: tu ich mich echt schwer das dienstlich zu begruenden :( [15:00] siretart, nutzt ihr fai? [15:00] dann sollte das doch easy sein.. [15:02] h01ger: naja, wir nutzen das fuer unsere studentenarbeitsplaetze [15:02] und systemadministration ist nicht meine hauptaufgabe, sondern laeuft hier eher 'nebenher' [15:02] ich hab schon UDS-Boston genehmigt bekommen, da will ich noch ne FAI-BoF halten [15:03] ah. wasn deine hauptaufgabe? [15:03] http://www4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~tartler/ [15:03] forschung im bereich systemsicherheit [15:03] speziell, cryptofilesysteme [15:04] hmja. (hypsch, aber wirklich nich so ganz einfach die begruendung dann :) [15:05] :) [15:06] Nick change: \sh -> \sh_away [15:09] siretart: da es aber am Wochenende stattfindet, kannst du es auch in deiner Freizeit machen. Wir muessen dir dann nur die Fahrt bezahlen. [15:10] achso, ich dachter der sei unter der woche [15:10] ne freitag spaet nachmittag bis Sonntag. [15:12] oh. das ist genau das wochenende nach boston [15:12] puh... [16:02] Mrfai (~lange@suenner.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:02] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [16:04] siretart: sollte jetzt nicht das meeting auf #ubuntu-meeting sein? auf welchem SErver? [16:05] sorrt, war utc, also in 2 stunden [16:06] /whois siretart sagt mir, dass das auf oftc ist.. [16:06] aeh, freenode [16:07] Mrfai: Ich weiss noch nicht ob ich komme. Meine Familie sieht mich nur am Wochende. So fuer mich ist Fr-So problematisch. Es wuerde mich reizen, aber bis jetzt konnte ich mein Gewissen nicht ueberzeugen :( [16:09] err, genau. ist auf freenode [16:09] ok, kann ich gut verstehen. Vielleicht bist du ja in der Zeit auch mal online dabei. [16:09] bin noch an der uni, muss noch heimfahren :) [16:09] ich muss auch noich heimfahren [16:11] home is where my laptop is :) [16:17] lol [16:24] Action: torkel realises that he has forgotten most of german language he learnt ~20 years ago [16:25] ErKa (keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) joined #fai. [16:43] siretart: will there be any meeting tonight? Or is it cancelled? [16:53] torkel: yes in ~ 1 hour #ubuntu-meeting on freenode [16:57] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [17:09] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:15] Mrfai (~lange@xdsl-81-173-168-205.netcologne.de) joined #fai. [17:28] torkel: right, I'm here now :) [17:33] siretart: if live-initramfs recent enough in gutsy? make-fai-chboot complain: Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) [17:33] http://paste.debian.net/38002 [17:33] >> rmadison -u ubuntu live-initramfs [17:33] live-initramfs | 1.102.1-1 | gutsy/universe | source, all [17:34] live-initramfs | 1.102.1-1 | testing | source, all [17:34] live-initramfs | 1.104.1-1 | unstable | source, all [17:34] hmm.. daniel is making new releases fairly quickly :/ [17:35] allee: your paste doesn't really indicate a problem in live-initramfs. that package is only used in the booted nfsroot. you are in nfsroot creation time [17:35] siretart: 1.102 you what you used in backports but as the log shows make-fai-nfsroot in not happy at all on gutsy [17:38] I have to admit that I didn't test that in gutsy yet [17:40] siretart: np. I'll do. I've never used live chroot, so currently I a bit lost what's normal output and what's a real error [17:40] nevertheless openpty error does not look like a waring ;) [17:45] seems that /dev/pts is not mounted inside the fai nfsroot. [17:46] but I'm not sure if this is done normally with Debian [17:52] -v tells me that error is generated in postinst scripts when the additional pkgs are added to nfsroot. [17:52] sieht so aus als ob nur /proc in die nfsroot waehrend make-fai-nfsroot gemountet wird [17:52] /srv/fai/nfsroot/...dev/pts ist nur ein normales directory [17:53] hm. also ich hab in den ubuntu-fai in /usr/sbin/fai nen check eingebaut, der schaut ob proc da ist und mounted das ggf [17:53] kann also gut sein dass noch mehr 'pseudo filesysteme' wie /srv/ /dev/pts, etc fehlen [17:53] okay ich such mal und baus ein [17:53] allee: schau doch mal am anfang von /usr/sbin/fai nach dem proc check, und erweitere das mal um pts [17:54] #144296 in ltsp (Ubuntu) [17:55] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/144296 [17:55] ? [17:55] Action: Mrfai geht mal kurz mampfen [17:55] siretart: yep [17:56] Mrfai: guten hunger! [17:56] hm, wo isn' das ubuntu meeting? [17:57] lazyb0y: fuer #ubuntu-meeting/freenode wars angekuendigt [17:57] meinetwegen koennen wir auch hier machen, wenns lieber ist [17:57] siretart: nene, bin nur grad hektisch an den rechner gehuepft und war zu faul zum nachlesen :) [17:58] :) [18:02] Lin (~igor@200.179.57.57) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [18:19] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:25] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) joined #fai. [18:26] ErKa (keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:38] glance: around? [19:03] how do you feel about the meeting? [19:04] zqad: are you intrested in the Ubuntu FAI team too? [19:04] was fine! [19:04] Action: lazyb0y has to go to dinner - people are waiting... [19:04] lazyb0y: have a great meal! [19:04] let's have a break for 30 min and then finish 'house keeping' topic? [19:05] ok, I'll try to be here [19:05] if not, I see that I make meeting minutes from the log, and post them to linux-fai-devel [19:05] good meeting. Let's hope that all our plans will be really done. [19:06] yep, good idea to poste the minues to linux-fai-devel [19:06] Mrfai: just curious, do you have activated your launchpad account? [19:06] gnarf, I could have checked myself [19:07] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:07] siretart: no. [19:07] ok, we'll triage and forward ubuntu bugs to debian anyways [19:07] I think I do not need this account. [19:08] you would need it for publishing bzr branches, managing fai bugs in launchpad, creating bts links, creating specifications, etc. [19:08] but I agree that you might not be interested in that at all [19:08] I can help the ubuntu FAI team without using launchpad. It's too much for me if I also need to work with launchpad. [19:09] Mrfai: okay, no problem [19:09] just for the case that for some reason we currently don't think of you reconsider this, have a look at: https://launchpad.net/~lange [19:13] meandtheshell (~markus@85-127-116-230.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) joined #fai. [19:14] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) joined #fai. [19:15] Hi i-R2D2, do you have a real name? [19:17] OT: lange? heck, noooooo. Create mrfai and mark lange as duplicate of mrfai! :) [19:23] hehe [19:23] sorry, need to leave now as well, cu later! [19:33] mfl_ (~mfl@apoll.fnb.maschinenbau.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:33] mfl (~mfl@apoll.fnb.maschinenbau.tu-darmstadt.de) joined #fai. [20:06] Lin (~igor@200.179.57.57) joined #fai. [20:08] what the h***. Problem was: stuck at 'boot:' no way to type, but alt-ctrl-del worked. Workaround: Not to use the KVM switch and but connect keyboard directly and kernel booted without prompting ' boot:' ? [20:16] allee: are you using lilo? [20:21] torkel: heh, no. This was when I try to pxe boot. And removing usb cable of KVM switch made 'boot:' disappear [20:22] right now I 'fight' with start-stop-daemon being dummy in nfs root so sshd daemon is not startet [20:23] allee: ah, you you only got that far... [20:24] IIRC sshd is started directly by the fai script, not via start-stop daemon [20:24] yep: [ "$flag_sshd" -a -x /usr/sbin/sshd ] && /usr/sbin/sshd [20:25] allee: hm, you could try with another version of syslinux. Every version of it usually has different issues :-) [20:25] okay, so maybe bug is somewhere else [20:26] right now it fails so mount /srv/fai/config. Let's look at the logs ... [20:48] torkel: well, i'll probably work towards aix now..but i sure am interested in general. whether or not i will work with fai on ubuntu is up to hpc2n :) glance is the faimaster at acc, so.. [20:55] Mrfai: nfs-client is not in NFSROOT. Do mounting config space fails. bug? or is default now one of git, svn ....? [21:03] there's not nfs-client package in debian [21:03] NFS is still default [21:03] zqad: oki. I thought you were involved in FAI at ACC too [21:04] torkel: only for the aix-part, probably [21:04] allee: show me your logs at paste.debian.net [21:06] nor in gutsy. It is replaced with nfs-common. [21:06] zqad: using FAI to install AIX sounds fun :-) [21:06] torkel: .. please shoot me :P [21:06] torkel: it's mostly merging znikkes changes [21:07] even nfs-common is not installed in the nfsroot. [21:07] ErKa (keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) joined #fai. [21:09] ah, show me the logs reminds me: why isn't the ssh/cfengine key. saved by make-fai-nfsroot and restored on rebuild by default. All the man in the middle warning are !$#!$:) [21:10] allee: the ssh keys can be saved using make-fai-nfsroot -p [21:10] oh, *blush*. Nevertheless it should be the default IMHO [21:11] allee: good idea, please file a wishlist bugreport for that [21:13] Mrfai: fai.log: http://paste.debian.net/38023 [21:13] ^^ with nfs-common added to NFSROOT and nfsroot rebuild [21:14] mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking. [21:14] this seems to be the problem [21:14] check this on your install server: [21:14] rpcinfo -p localhost [21:15] you should see nfs and nlockmgr. But I'm sure fai mount using nolock [21:16] Mrfai: all there: http://paste.debian.net/38024 [21:17] allee: looks good. [21:17] meandtheshell (~markus@85-127-116-230.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:17] try to mount manually with -o nolock [21:18] I wondering about this message: Either use '-o nolocks' [21:18] IMO it's nolock, not nolocks [21:19] Mrfai: can't set permision on /etc/mtab. it's a link to /proc/mounts with mode 111 [21:19] mount -n does not write /etc/mtab [21:20] thx. now it's mounted [21:20] Action: allee search for the mount command to add an echo ... [21:21] lib/get-config-dir-nfs [21:21] there, it's mounted without using -n [21:22] romountopt="-o async,noatime,nolock,ro,actimeo=1800" [21:26] Mrfai: strange. echo shows nothing at all for romountopt. [21:27] add set -x in lib/get-config-dir-nfs, this will show you each line when executed [21:27] romountopt may be not exported to all shells [21:28] Mrfai: I c&p the mount $romout ... and added an echo infront of it. [21:28] Mrfai: so really looks like a export problem [21:29] but why does it work when typed manally? [21:34] Mrfai: I mean $romountopt is empty (with set -x too) [21:34] I've added export romountopt= to /usr/sbin/fai let's see .. [21:35] Mrfai: ta ta. my data are gone. sfdisk at work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [21:35] data on test client I mean :) [21:35] Mrfai: thx a thousand times! [21:36] ok I will check why I had no problems with debian [21:38] Action: allee wonders if /bin/sh -> /bin/bash would work without export ... [21:42] No, fails with sh = bash too. so no autoexport bash magic [21:51] allee: romountopt is also empty in Debian orgirignal FAI 3.2.1. OK this is a bug. [21:52] Fix: just define romountopt in get-config-dir-nfs. It's only used there [21:54] wrong. It's also used in subroutines-linux. [21:54] Mrfai (~lange@xdsl-81-173-168-205.netcologne.de) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:55] Mrfai (~lange@xdsl-81-173-168-205.netcologne.de) joined #fai. [21:56] Action: Mrfai killed the wrong xterm [22:06] just adding export in front of romountopt=.... is sufficient. 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