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| 08:28 siretart | hm. has someone a suggestion why the nfsroot hasn't ata_piix loaded, but only ata_generic? |
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| 08:55 Mrfai | also ata_piix ist auf jeden Fall in der initrd drin. Hab ich gerade nochmals nachgesehen |
| 08:58 Mrfai | Wenn die hardwareerkennung innerhalb der initrd die modul nicht laed, kann man dies forcieren |
| 08:58 Mrfai | einfach die module in /srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir/etc/initramfs-tools/modules |
| 08:59 h01ger | moin moin |
| 08:59 Mrfai | reinschreiben und die initrd neu bauen und nach /srv/tftp/fai kopieren |
| 08:59 h01ger | Mrfai, danke fuers akzeptieren des git-patches. schau mir den svn-bug nachher mal an... |
| 09:02 Mrfai | h01ger: das waere super. |
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| 10:12 siretart | aaah, neueres live-initramfs hat geholfen |
| 10:13 Mrfai | siretart: welche version nutzt du jetzt? |
| 10:16 siretart | Mrfai: die svn trunk version (also 3.2.1) |
| 10:17 siretart | aber ich stelle grad fest dass ich noch fai-client 3.1 benutze.. muss eh nochmal neu installieren, diesmal mit richtig |
| 10:17 Mrfai | nein, welche live-initramfs version nutzt du? |
| 10:17 siretart | live-initramfs_1.99.2-1.dsc |
| 10:17 siretart | mit der tuts |
| 10:18 Mrfai | ok, muss ich auch mal bald updaten |
| 10:30 siretart | Using local path /proj/fai/config |
| 10:30 siretart | WARNING: directory /var/lib/fai/config/class not found. |
| 10:30 siretart | mein config space wird per nfs in /proj/fai/config verwaltet, was per nfs freigegeben wird |
| 10:31 siretart | muss ich das von hand nach /var/lib/fai/config/class kopieren? |
| 10:31 siretart | oder soll ich die variable FAI= auf /proj/fai/config setzen? |
| 10:32 Mrfai | du kannst ei per NFS gemountetes verzeichnis nicht wieder per NFS exportieren. KAnn es das sein? |
| 10:33 Mrfai | Ansonsten sollte das NFS mounten autom. gehen, wenn FAI_CONFIG_SRC ordentlich gesetzt ist. |
| 10:33 Mrfai | Nicht nach /var/lib/fai/config kopieren, das sollte ja gerade per NFS gehen |
| 10:36 siretart | naja |
| 10:36 siretart | mit nfs:// funktioniert das schon |
| 10:37 siretart | ich dachte mir nur, weil ich /proj eh schon exportiere und freigebe, dass ich mir dann einen extra mount sparen kann |
| 10:37 siretart | aber dann halt so |
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| 11:56 siretart | gmrpf |
| 11:56 lazyb0y | We can make a developers meeting from 9th to 11th november at the linuxhotel! |
| 11:56 siretart | fai 3.2.1 mountet mir /proc nicht im nfsroot :/ |
| Action: lazyb0y will create a wiki page in the course of today for the particpants and write to fai-devel! |
| 12:01 lazyb0y | Mrfai: die bedingungen sind jetzt allerdings: http://www.linuxhotel.de/community.html |
| 12:01 lazyb0y | waere also gut, wenn wir einen Sponsor bekommen koennten. ich werde mal bei silpion fragen. |
| 12:07 siretart | wer mountet im nfsroot eigentlich /proc? |
| 12:07 siretart | live-initramfs? |
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| 12:26 siretart | Mrfai: echo "The $FAI_ACTION took $[$(cut -d . -f 1 /proc/uptime)-$start_seconds] seconds." |
| 12:27 siretart | Mrfai: ^^ diese zeile (258 in /usr/lib/fai/subroutines-linux) macht bei mir einen 'syntax error: operand expected (error token is "-")' |
| 12:27 siretart | hi allee |
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| 12:29 allee | hey, hi siretart!! |
| 12:30 allee | above ^^ /bin/sh script with bashism? |
| 12:30 siretart | no, it is already called with /bin/bash |
| 12:37 allee | siretart: sure? Here it fails with /bin/sh, works with /bin/bash |
| 12:37 siretart | faui49:/srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir/usr# head -1 sbin/fai |
| 12:37 siretart | #!/bin/bash |
| 12:38 allee | siretart: does not help when it's sourced |
| 12:38 allee | ach@allee(0) ~ $ /bin/sh -c '"The $FAI_ACTION took $[$(cut -d . -f 1 /proc/uptime)-$start_seconds] seconds."' |
| 12:38 allee | /bin/sh: The took $[3094-] seconds.: not found |
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| 12:38 allee | ^^ forget wrong test ... |
| 12:39 siretart | allee: very good point. /me checks |
| 12:39 siretart | yes, it is indeed sourced |
| 12:39 allee | ach@allee(1) ~ $ start_seconds=100 /bin/sh -c 'echo "The $FAI_ACTION took $[$(cut -d . -f 1 /proc/uptime)-$start_seconds] seconds."' |
| 12:39 allee | The took $[3182-100] seconds. |
| 12:39 allee | ach@allee(0) ~ $ start_seconds=100 /bin/bash -c 'echo "The $FAI_ACTION took $[$(cut -d . -f 1 /proc/uptime)-$start_seconds] seconds."' |
| 12:39 allee | The took 3089 seconds. |
| 12:40 allee | Here a version that works with dash: |
| 12:40 allee | start_seconds=100 /bin/sh -c '"The $FAI_ACTION took $(expr $(cut -d . -f 1 /proc/uptime) - $start_seconds) seconds."' |
| 12:40 allee | expr is from coreutils. So should be there |
| 12:40 siretart | cool. will try that |
| 12:41 allee | one need space around the '-'. |
| 12:43 siretart | another fai run, lets see if it helps now |
| 12:53 Mrfai | since /usr/sbin/fai is /bin/bash also the subroutines should be bash when sourced. |
| 12:53 siretart | das sollte man annehmen... |
| 12:54 Mrfai | oh, es ist innerhalb von echo. Vielleicht ist das der Unterschied. Probier mal vorher die substraction auszufuehren, das ergebnis einer variabeln zuweisen und diese dann im echo zu benutzen |
| 12:55 siretart | allee hat doch ne dash kompatble version gegeben mit expr. warum nicht einfach die nehmen? |
| 12:55 Mrfai | lazyb0y: OK. Ich kann auch noch Firmen ansprechen. Bin aber naechste Woche in Zuerich |
| 12:55 allee | nee das sollte es nicht ein. String expansion macht auch die shell. fai start other progs that source subroutines/? |
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| 13:11 lazyb0y | Mrfai: is ja noch ein bisschen hin! die wiki seite und den aufruf zur anmeldung mache ich aber schonmal fertig! |
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| 13:14 Mrfai | lazyb0y: ok. Bitte mit Hinweis das an FAI gearbeitet werden soll. Also schon mal klar machen, das es etwas ernster zugehen soll. |
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| 13:26 lazyb0y | Mrfai: ja, siehe extra mail! |
| 13:27 Mrfai | ich habe die Mails noch micht bekommen (nur die alte, die du mir nochamls geschickt hast). Ich muss also warten.... |
| 13:28 lazyb0y | Mrfai: die meine ich ja - das muss fr heute erstmal reichen :) |
| 13:46 Mrfai | ok, hab genug zu tun und zu lesen. |
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| 15:00 lazyb0y | what could be the reason fai wants to save logfiles to host with ip 1.2.3.4? |
| 15:01 lazyb0y | I see this is the variable $SERVER, but wonder, if this is wrong at the end, how can the whole install run at all? (and it did run, and looks wuite well apart of saving logs) |
| 15:05 Mrfai | I search in the whoile FAI sources. 1.2.3.4 is never used as IP addresses. |
| 15:06 Mrfai | lazyb0y: An installation from CD? |
| 15:07 lazyb0y | no, a xen vm with a standard kernel |
| 15:12 lazyb0y | Mrfai: you fixed the bug 391659 with the comment: |
| 15:12 lazyb0y | grab error codes when executing commands, |
| 15:12 lazyb0y | exit with 3 when errors occured, add option -H (closes: #391659), |
| 15:12 lazyb0y | but this bug is about missing documentation of the new install methids available - are you sure this bug is fixed? |
| 15:17 lazyb0y | checked that: at least in the fai.guide on the web there are no new install methods documented |
| 15:20 Mrfai | the fai-guide on the web is not yet up-to-date. Check the svn trunk. |
| 15:20 Mrfai | now install_packages can tell you (using 0H) which install methods are available |
| 15:20 Mrfai | using -H |
| 15:20 Mrfai | this is better (and more up-to-date) than changing the documentation. |
| 15:21 Mrfai | From the fai guide (in trunk): |
| 15:21 Mrfai | The list of all |
| 15:21 Mrfai | available commands can be listed using <tt>install_packages -H</tt>. |
| 15:21 Mrfai | Supported package tools are: <tt>aptitude, apt-get, smart, y2pmsh, |
| 15:21 Mrfai | yast, yum, urpm, rpm</tt> |
| 15:22 lazyb0y | Mrfai: as normally people don't call install_:packages manually, this is now still very hidden. Nobody will find that on his own |
| 15:22 lazyb0y | if possible, in the fai-guide it should be written, that the user should run install_packages -H |
| 15:23 Mrfai | it is written in the fai guide |
| 15:23 lazyb0y | erm, yes, I read completely only after replying :) |
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| 15:28 Mrfai | never mind. |
| 15:31 lazyb0y | hmm, about the 1.2.3.4 problem: this is what the client - this is what fai is saying at start of install: |
| 15:31 lazyb0y | Kernel parameters: ip=:1.2.3.4::::eth0:dhcp root=/dev/nfs FAI_ACTION=install FAI_FLAGS=verbose,sshd,syslogd,createvt |
| 15:32 lazyb0y | the actual ip config is corrected later by the initrd scripts, and even the faiserver address is set correctly at some place, but the 1.2.3.4 sticks in the SERVER variable... |
| 15:33 Mrfai | then 1.2.3.4 is in your dhcp.conf or menu.lst. Maybe an old version of FAI includes those "default |
| 15:33 Mrfai | "default" parameters |
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| 15:35 lazyb0y | menu.lst? I don't boot via grub - I do network boot with initrd |
| 15:35 lazyb0y | guess it has something to with xen's booting... |
| 15:36 lazyb0y | but can I set LOGSERVER=$installserver in fai.conf - would that work? |
| 15:36 lazyb0y | and, most important: would that work dynamically at install time? |
| 15:37 Mrfai | the variable $istallserver was used in old FAI version (maybe up to FAI 2.8). It's removed since long time. |
| 15:37 Mrfai | LOGSERVEr can now be defined in class/*.var |
| 15:37 Mrfai | dynamicly and depending on classes is now supported. |
| 15:37 Mrfai | HAve a look at the table of variables in the faiwiki |
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| 15:38 lazyb0y | Mrfai: took it from the table, but didn't look at the very right, where the "removed" is |
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| 15:38 lazyb0y | Mrfai: last I said: took it from the table, but didn't look at the very right, where the "removed" is |
| 15:39 lazyb0y | Mrfai: I think it's confusing to have old variables in the same tale as the ones currently used - can I fix this? |
| 15:43 lazyb0y | hmm, very strange, how can an install run at all if SERVER is 1.2.3.4 - this should be the variable that defines from which hos the configspace is mounted?! |
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| 16:01 siretart | Mrfai: lazyb0y und allee haben grad von launchpad die mail bekommen, ich hab grad um ausnahme fuer fai 3.2.1 gebeten :) |
| 16:04 allee | siretart: cool. Mail not here yet. Bug #? Or is it in svn? |
| 16:05 siretart | #139637 |
| 16:05 allee | thx |
| 16:06 allee | siretart: sources in svn? |
| 16:06 siretart | allee: und ich bin immer noch am ueberlegen ob wir nicht doch ein lp team aufmachen sollten um fai backports packete direkter und einfacher zu bekommen/pflegen |
| 16:06 siretart | allee: haettest du lust, zeit und interesse bei sowas mitzumachen? |
| 16:06 siretart | achso, das lp team waer fuer das PPA |
| 16:06 allee | siretart: klar. |
| 16:07 siretart | hm. ok. dann waeren wir 3. ich kuemmer mich dann heut abend drum, ok? |
| 16:09 allee | okay. Prima. Ich schau heute nach noch mal rein, und lade die deb/src runter ;) |
| 16:09 allee | bis spaeter dann. Muss jetzt erstmal Sohnemann abholen und mich der Familie widmen ... |
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| 16:17 Mrfai | lazyb0y: I want to keep the old variables, so people can see that those variables were removed, not only that I forgot them |
| 16:18 Mrfai | siretart: was ist ein lp team? Eine mobile eingreiftruppe? Sonderkommando? |
| 16:19 Mrfai | siretart: soll ich fai 3.2.1 dann bald releasen, oder wirst du einfach die Sachen aus dem svn trunk nehmen? Wie gesagt, ich koennte so bis zum 26/27 September releasen. Reicht das fue rdich? |
| 16:28 siretart | Mrfai: lp == launchpad |
| 16:28 siretart | uuh, 26/27 ist mir fast a weng spaet, ich wuerd dann ggf dinge aus dem trunk nehmen |
| 16:29 lazyb0y | Mrfai: I don't want to remove them, but put tem in an extra table, saying big and red "OLD" , it's confusing as it is now |
| 16:31 siretart | Mrfai: ich stell mir etwas in der art wie das hier vor: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-burning - nur nicht fuer cdbrenndinge, sondern eben fuer fai |
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| 16:31 siretart | (man beachte den link 'show personal package archive' links im portlet |
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| 17:20 Mrfai | siretart: ich schau mal ob ich es bis montag schaffe. |
| 17:21 Mrfai | lazyb0y: extra table is ok, wenn auf der gleichen seite im wiki. Also ohne das man nochmals klicken muss |
| 17:22 lazyb0y | genau so hab ich es vor :) |
| 17:24 lazyb0y | ich habe immer noch keine ahnung, warum $SERVER falsch ist, und wie man es richtig fuellen koennte - es geht nicht sofort schief, weil ich den configspace aus dem svn geholt hae die ganze zeit... |
| 17:24 lazyb0y | logs schreibe ich jetzt erstmal, indem ich LOGSERVER hard coded reinschreibe... |
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| 17:38 siretart | Mrfai: danke dir! |
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| 17:57 lazyb0y | argh, da geht noch mehr schief.... ich habe kein interfecas file, while auch IPADDR leer ist... |
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| 18:40 lazyb0y | ah! when using a non fai-kernel kernel, but booting with initrd which contains a dhcp client, then fai approach to set ip variables form kernel commandline is pretty much useless! |
| 18:41 lazyb0y | or it has to do with xen that the kernel commandline is crippled... |
| 18:46 Mrfai | I think also live-initramfs has some minor flaws with ip= parameters |
| 18:51 lazyb0y | Mrfai: I'm still on 3.1.8 (rebuilding my local infrastructire from scratch with stable software only) |
| 18:52 lazyb0y | maybe it's some of the initram-scripts - I don't know, what is respnsible for setting /proc/cmdline? |
| 18:53 lazyb0y | if it's kernel code, verxy soon at boot time, then it might not be wrong - if it's intentionally, that the ip parameters, are set from a dhcp client script, the kernel does not set useful values... |
| 18:53 lazyb0y | then we are wrong assuming we can parse ip parameters from /proc/cmdline |
| 18:54 lazyb0y | (I'm working on a workaround - any other idea for getting network config data instead of grepping and cutting through ifoncfig outpout? |
| 18:57 Mrfai | the normal fai 3.1.8 does not use initramfs. |
| 18:58 Mrfai | /proc/cmdline is set by the kernel. The info comes from the boot loader |
| 19:01 lazyb0y | ok, I'm booting in an illegal way :) |
| 19:02 lazyb0y | but I just realize - this is bullshit anyway - if I want ti set ip statically, I can do it with fcopy, if it should be dynamic, I just use dhcp... |
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