[03:05] alvinc (~alvin.cur@office-ca.emaillabs.com) left irc: [06:02] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [06:58] VattaFarI (~chatzilla@port-212-202-236-178.static.qsc.de) joined #fai. [07:13] VattaFarI_ (~chatzilla@port-212-202-236-178.static.qsc.de) joined #fai. [07:18] VattaFarI (~chatzilla@port-212-202-236-178.static.qsc.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [07:19] Nick change: VattaFarI_ -> VattaFarI [07:32] Nick change: \sh_away -> \sh [07:40] meandtheshell (~markus@85-127-116-52.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) joined #fai. [07:45] ErKa (keryell@m9.wifi.enstb.org) joined #fai. [07:58] VattaFarI (~chatzilla@port-212-202-236-178.static.qsc.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [08:31] BarryAllen, can you chroot into your nfsroot and do "dpkg -l fai-client"? [08:32] BarryAllen, cause i see this in /usr/bin/setup_harddiscs: BuildfstabLine("proc","/proc","proc","rw,nosuid,noexec",0,0); [08:37] Nick change: MT -> Guest112 [08:37] Guest112 (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:37] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [08:40] wolfaba (~wolf@zfw.abacus.ch) joined #fai. [08:43] wolfaba (~wolf@zfw.abacus.ch) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:43] wolfaba (~wolf@zfw.abacus.ch) joined #fai. [08:46] wolfaba (~wolf@zfw.abacus.ch) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:46] wolfaba (~wolf@zfw.abacus.ch) joined #fai. [08:49] wolfaba (~wolf@zfw.abacus.ch) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:50] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:54] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) joined #fai. [09:02] moin [09:03] Mrfai (~lange@port-212-202-236-178.static.qsc.de) joined #fai. [09:03] do we need the available-checks in install_packages also when using aptitude? or does aptitude ignore non-existent packages? [09:06] avalable-checks are only used for apt-get [09:06] i know [09:06] impossible for aptitude. Think of aptitude install ~nlinux [09:07] oh sh*t [09:07] is there any option for aptitude to ignore non-existent packages then? [09:08] the filter makes updates to new releases a whole lot easier... [09:08] file a bugfreport tp apt. IMO checking for bad package names should be included into the apt library [09:09] well, it somehow is there... apt-get emits an error message that a package does not exist ;) [09:09] the single thing needed [09:09] would be to make these errors non-fatal [09:09] ;) [09:09] yep. [09:10] IMO adding an option to ignore bad package names (and not exit with fatal) would be perfect [09:17] Mrfai: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/Debian2DebianEdu [09:49] ErKa (keryell@m9.wifi.enstb.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [10:48] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:49] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [11:05] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) left irc: Quit: using sirc version 2.211 [11:16] http://paste.grml.org/47 - is that a problem for me or is that "OK"? (using mkdebmirror) [11:28] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) joined #fai. [11:30] VattaFarI_ (~chatzilla@port-212-202-236-178.static.qsc.de) joined #fai. [11:30] Nick change: VattaFarI_ -> VattaFarI [11:31] mikap: sha1sum command missing? Or maybe the debian mirror you mirror from is bad [11:31] ErKa (keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) joined #fai. [11:32] VattaFarI (~chatzilla@port-212-202-236-178.static.qsc.de) left irc: Read error: No route to host [11:34] Mrfai: hi :) /usr/bin/sha1sum is available, I'm using the default => ftp.de.debian.org [11:34] # du -sh /grml/debian_mirror/* [11:34] 31M /grml/debian_mirror/debian [11:34] 589M /grml/debian_mirror/debian-security [11:34] -> I assume the debian-directory should be bigger, nor? :) [11:34] (the script is still running, currently for debian-security) [11:35] or you have found a real good compression ;-) [11:35] *gggg* [11:35] so let's say debian-security-mirroring finishes: what next could I do? [11:35] just start the script again. [11:35] and try mkdebmirror -v [11:36] ok, waiting for debin-sec to finish, will try then - thx! [11:42] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:42] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [11:54] BarryAllenn (~the@201.86.30.32.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined #fai. [11:54] hi all, [11:56] h01ger: hi, good morning (here, at least) :). Had you the oportunity to talk with thomas about that error? (proc) [11:57] yes, he talked to me about this error :-) [11:58] Mrfai hi :) [12:01] Mrfai looking around on google to solve that problem i found your post, about it, and i installed the 3.2 version (from sid) to solve it... rebuild the nfsroot, but my proc line still beggining with "none" on the installed systems, [12:04] BarryAllen, good morning :) [12:04] BarryAllen, can you chroot into your nfsroot and do "dpkg -l fai-client"? [12:04] BarryAllen, cause i see this in /usr/bin/setup_harddiscs: BuildfstabLine("proc","/proc","proc","rw,nosuid,noexec",0,0); [12:04] so Mrfai and me expect this is a user error :) [12:05] nutzer13 (~chatzilla@port-212-202-236-178.static.qsc.de) joined #fai. [12:06] BarryAllen, i expect that in the nfsroot you havent installed fai-client 3.2 as you probably only have etch sources in your /etc/fai/apt/sources.list [12:07] hmmm let me see, just a sec [12:07] you can add "deb http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/download etch koeln" there to get it [12:13] h01ger updated... ill install something small to test [12:13] nutzer13a (~nutzer13@port-212-202-236-178.static.qsc.de) joined #fai. [12:13] nutzer13 (~chatzilla@port-212-202-236-178.static.qsc.de) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072300] [12:13] BarryAllen, you need to remake your nfsroot first.. [12:16] h01ger... after insall fai-client (3.2), on nfsroot, i have to re-run make-fai-nfsroot? (that ll not cleanup my modifications?) [12:17] ah [12:17] no [12:17] if you manually install it there, you dont have to.. [12:17] :) [12:31] Mrfai: eartoast: I think it's better to fail fast if a user enters invalid packages in a package config! [12:34] better than wondering much later, why a package is missing in your install - with a "warning only" policy, you need much longer to realise, and then to fix it. basically, when writing that, I even think, there should be an option to fai to immediately stop an install at the very first error. [12:35] Nick change: MT -> Guest117 [12:35] Guest117 (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:35] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [12:37] lazyb0y: well, i remember the woody->sarge and sarge->etch transition, where a lot of locally built packages were not yet built for the new release... [12:37] and having to wait for a reinstall (~30-45min) just to find just another missing package would have been to tedious [12:38] but I agree, in principle one could do a kind of offline-consistency-check of $FAI [12:38] Mrfai: http://grml.org/tmp/mkdebmirror.log [12:39] for cleaning the lists... [12:40] lazyb0y, i would prefer a config option: immediately-fail-on-any-error and ignore-errors-when-possible [12:46] h01ger, ok updated... ... on the install processs it die after a lot of errors, but the first is.... when it try to create /var/log/fai.... im getting an error about readonly permissions there... [12:49] BarryAllen, cheers! you made progress :) whats the exact error? -> paste.debian.net (or maybe jsut use chmod? ;) [12:50] h01ger on the installer, the nfsroot, is mounted with readonly, and the installer is trying to create that directores? seems strange [12:50] Mrfai: dropped the etch-proposed-updates stuff out of dist=-line, now retreiving the etch-pool [12:51] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [12:53] h01ger: that directories = a lot of directories in var log.... (all i think) [12:54] BarryAllen, shouldnt not happen [12:54] BarryAllen, paste.debian.net or read your logfiles :) [12:55] h01ger i havenot log files, hehehehehe, the error is a bit before... ill paste you te error, just a sec, :) [12:56] BarryAllen, you have logfiles on the client. look into /var/log7fai there [12:58] h01ger, that errors i said, are in the client [13:01] BarryAllen, you have logfiles on the client. look into /var/log7fai there [13:05] .... forget about man, ill downgrad and rebuild the old nfsroot, tks all [13:18] BarryAllen, why? 3.2 should work nicely. what was your problem with 3.1.8? the fstab? thats fixed in 3.2 (as other things) [13:18] s/should work/works/ [13:19] h01ger installer is failling now... i dont know (remember), if the client mount nfsroot with readonly or readwrite on the 3.1.8.... i dont know/remember if the installer in the client had problems to create /var/log/fai in the installation.... 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[15:10] (3.2) [15:11] ops [15:11] s/is write that/is that right?/g :) [15:18] BarryAllen: sure, nfsrott is only mounted ro [15:19] Mrfai, ... but then, the installer cant create /var/log/fai (and alot of other things).... and that is the little problem soon later, the installer fail... [15:20] show us the error messages [15:22] Mrfai, the errors are in the client, and the /var/log/fai isnt created (readonly problem), so i havenot the logs, ... ill retype the errors... [15:27] ErKa (keryell@m9.wifi.enstb.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [15:27] Mrfai, the very first error is, soon after the INIT : mkdir: cannote create directory `/var/log/fai/current` : readonly filesystem [15:31] BarryAllen: FAI 3.1.8? You have downgraded? Use FAI 3.2, check if the nfsroot is created properly [15:35] no no no [15:35] 3.2 [15:35] 3.1.8 was working :) [15:35] just with that "small problem" about proc [15:36] im using packages from sid, ... that could be a problem? im thinking about, remove they, and use the apt repo that h01ger told me [15:37] deb http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/download etch koeln [15:37] BarryAllen, yes, do that. use the repo. [15:38] nutzer13a (~nutzer13@port-212-202-236-178.static.qsc.de) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:42] Nick change: \sh -> \sh_away [15:45] meandtheshell (~markus@85.127.108.176) joined #fai. [15:58] Mrfai (~lange@port-212-202-236-178.static.qsc.de) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:03] ErKa (keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) joined #fai. [16:06] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Quit: MT [16:06] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [16:21] Lin (~igor@200.179.57.57) joined #fai. [16:48] h01ger: right, that's what I would recommend - the right thing(TM) for everybody :) [16:51] eartoast: yes, right, in some situations it can be useful - in such a case you can install without the missing packages, and without changing your config, and chaning it again as soon as you have your packages. but in general you want to know as soon as possible if something's wrong - therefore, it should be configurable... [16:51] same thing.... readonly error after init... [16:57] meandtheshell (~markus@85.127.108.176) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:28] C7 (~C7@zux006-058-029.adsl.green.ch) joined #fai. [17:34] BarryAllen (~MRX@201.86.42.79.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:42] allee (~ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:13] hmm, why does softupdate give me an error like this: [18:13] Calling task_softupdate [18:13] cp: cannot stat `/var/lib/fai/disk_var.sh': No such file or directory [18:13] shouldn't softupdate leave any disk stuff alone, and therefore not need this file? [18:13] hmm, no [18:14] variables like BOOT_PARTITION and the like might be useful with softupdates as well [18:14] just consider changing the grub config or updates of grub [18:16] ah [18:17] but, on a xen guest, I don't need grub or a boot partition - is there any danger involved, if I only touch this file to be an empty file, to get rid of this error? [18:18] hmm, don't think so [18:18] I kept ignoring this error [18:19] but probably an empty file is just fine [18:19] I think it's sourced, so empty should be ok [18:19] I'm refactporing my configspace and want installs without any errors now :) [18:19] and softupdates, too [18:26] ErKa (keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [18:31] meandtheshell (~markus@85.127.108.176) joined #fai. [18:32] BarryAllen (~MRX@201.86.42.79.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined #fai. [18:32] hi agaim :) [18:38] h01ger, i had really to dowgrand, i dont know why, but 3.2 was failling with problems related with readonly filesystem... but i found where to change the "proc" configuration on the 3.1.8 and... is solved, tks anyway [19:01] Lin (~igor@200.179.57.57) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [19:10] meandtheshell (~markus@85.127.108.176) left irc: Quit: Leaving. 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