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| 14:43 h01ger | Mrfai, i've just upgraded my svn copy to review it but just now i finally found the fix for a longstanding bug in anaconda, so that i - for today - rather continue to use fai 3.1.8 - maybe later today i'll look at trunk and at latest tomorrow. i want to use something trunk-based... |
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| 14:46 Mrfai | h01ger: I hope to release FAI in a few hours. Just fixing the example log files for the guide. |
| 14:48 Mrfai | But I can update the fai guide also after the release, if you send me patches or comments so we have a better guide for our tutorial. |
| Action: h01ger nods - cool |
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| 15:05 h01ger | linda and lintian are quite verbose on 3.2~beta13 :) |
| 15:07 Mrfai | yep, I saw it already. HAve a look at the commit mails. Fixes are now included |
| 15:07 Mrfai | not all is fixed, but some |
| 15:08 h01ger | :) |
| 15:08 h01ger | Mrfai, i'd rename chapter 10.2: "using fai for online updates" -> "using fai for updates" or softupdates. but "online updates" is buzzword bingo ;) |
| 15:09 h01ger | (in the guide) |
| 15:10 h01ger | 10.2.2 could have a note about "-N" - btw, what do you think about changing the default? (lots of people on the list seconded the idea..) |
| Action: Mrfai removed "online" |
| 15:11 Mrfai | IT's too late for changing the default of -N now. Maybe in the next release |
| 15:11 Mrfai | We (who?) have to check if the default of -N will not load additional kernel modules in the simple examples. That's bad, if a softupdate would do this. |
| 15:13 h01ger | does make-fai-bootfloppy still work without fai-kernels? |
| 15:13 h01ger | Mrfai, hm, good point |
| 15:14 h01ger | Mrfai, but we can change 10.2.2 now to mention "-N" there :) |
| 15:15 h01ger | 4.9.1 also mentions fai-kernels... |
| 15:15 Mrfai | I did not test m-f-bf, but IMO it will surely fail. |
| Action: h01ger nods |
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| 15:16 Mrfai | 4.9.1I just writing on 4.9.1 |
| 15:17 Mrfai | I have to create those problem and see how the new messages look like |
| 15:19 meandtheshell | Mrfai, h01ger and other FAI experts ... I got a question - had the fcopy command been especially invented with FAI? Must be since I never stumbled across it before now ... |
| 15:19 meandtheshell | I think I need to try it in practice to fully understand its purpose ... |
| Action: meandtheshell skimmed over the man file for the first time --> didn't get it completely :) |
| 15:21 h01ger | meandtheshell, fcopy has been written for fai, yes |
| 15:21 h01ger | you'll love it |
| 15:21 meandtheshell | h01ger: a ok - fine then - I surely will :) |
| 15:21 h01ger | with it, you can use files/etc/apt/sources.list/CLASS |
| 15:22 meandtheshell | well, my notion so far is that it copies "things" depending on class relations ... or so ... |
| 15:24 meandtheshell | I guess I'll go for a banana + green ginger tea break and then start to read over it again - ginger always helps the reluctant mind :) |
| Action: meandtheshell said and done ... off for a break |
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| 16:06 h01ger | Mrfai, search for typo "teh nfsroot" in fai-guide.sgml :) |
| 16:07 h01ger | Mrfai, probably also mention that live-* is not in etch but you can get it from backports.org |
| 16:07 h01ger | Mrfai, and please explain -N in 10.2.2 ;) |
| 16:07 h01ger | (want a patch?) |
| 16:08 Mrfai | -N is already explained in the fai man page |
| Action: h01ger seufzt |
| Action: Mrfai seuftzt mit |
| 16:16 h01ger | "if you want to use softupdates on a system not installed with fai, the first tim eyou need to run fai with the -N switch: 'fai -N softupdate' - see fai manpage for details." - adding this at the end of 10.2.2 would be really nice. there are many people who rightfully think that reading the guide should be enough for a start.. |
| 16:18 Mrfai | FAI 3.2 is finished. No more changes. Upload in a few seconds ;-) |
| 16:18 h01ger | thank you very much |
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| 16:20 meandtheshell | Mrfai: congratulations folks! How long has work gone on for releasing 3.2? |
| 16:21 Mrfai | Too long ;-) |
| 16:21 meandtheshell | ;-] |
| Action: meandtheshell checks Changelog |
| 16:21 Mrfai | No, but I did not get much help :-( |
| 16:21 h01ger | Mrfai, any objections to add the above to trunk now that 3.2 is released? |
| 16:23 juri_ | mrfai: sorry, i tried. :) |
| 16:24 Mrfai | First I have to finish the release, means upload, updating web page,... Please send me a patch this week. I think I can update the guide in the trunk on monday. Then I have to send it to linuxhotel for printing. Do, deadline is monday for fai guide patches or comments (for the linuxhotel version) |
| Action: juri_ has patches to submit to qemu, xrdp, and rdesktop at the moment. behind! |
| 16:34 MT | Mrfai, I'd proof-read the FAI guide this evening |
| 16:34 MT | what this the preferred way of reporting errors? |
| 16:36 Mrfai | MT,h01ger we should sync the patches you will create for the guide, otherwisae merging will cause problems. |
| 16:37 Mrfai | MT: if you will proof-read this evening and do not have major changes, I may include them tomorrow. |
| 16:37 MT | is h01ger doing the same at the moment? |
| 16:37 Mrfai | After that, h01ger may send his patches |
| 16:37 h01ger | Mrfai, i just filed a bug |
| 16:38 MT | ok, I'll try to finish by midnight, is that early enough for you, h01ger? |
| 16:38 h01ger | didnt bother to create a patch, as its trivial and too much work with merging etc |
| 16:38 h01ger | MT, yes |
| 16:38 h01ger | MT, take your time |
| 16:39 MT | still, Mrfai, do you prefer a patch for the sgml files? |
| 16:40 Mrfai | MT: this depends on the thigs changed. Inserting a few sentences is easier by just mailing it to me. A lot of samall typo fixes or similar are better to apply with a patch |
| 16:40 MT | or should I put the errors together pointing to the paragraphs/pages of the postscript file? |
| 16:41 MT | I guess it will mainly be typo fixes |
| Action: h01ger is a bit frustrated that Mrfai suddenly released fai, while we were talking about fixes for the fai guide, and taking some and not others... |
| 16:41 h01ger | MT, against the sgml file is better... thats the source :) |
| Action: MT was a bit surprised to, but no problem |
| 16:42 MT | I think it was important to release |
| 16:42 MT | better release often |
| 16:42 Mrfai | The release was NOT suddenly! I announced it on aug 3 in https://lists.uni-koeln.de/pipermail/linux-fai-devel/2007q3/000439.html |
| 16:42 MT | with smaller changes |
| 16:43 MT | well, the actual moment of the release is always a bit surprising :-) |
| 16:43 MT | h01ger, in fact this release helps getting more fixes into FAI |
| 16:43 MT | now people will test 3.2 |
| 16:44 MT | and in the meantime your patches can get included |
| Action: Mrfai is wondering why people didn't test 3.2beta |
| 16:45 MT | I wouldn't dare to test a beta release on my system... |
| Action: h01ger was busy with other stuff |
| 16:45 h01ger | Mrfai, the day was not suddenly. the very moment was |
| 16:45 MT | If FAI is broken, so is my system... |
| 16:46 MT | I would have tested the beta on one of my private machines, but didn't find the time to do the config there |
| 16:46 MT | I actually planned to test it there |
| 16:47 Mrfai | next time a counter will say: ... 3, 2, 1 meins^Wrelease ;-) |
| 16:47 h01ger | :) |
| Action: Mrfai is getting a huge amount of mails, that bugs where closed in FAI. Wow! |
| 16:48 MT | in earlier days, the kernel team also hoped that people would test the development releases |
| 16:49 MT | but obviously it didn't work out, so the changed the model to release everything :-) |
| 16:57 MT | Mrfai, does #434355 still apply? |
| 16:58 MT | "#434355: mkisofs recommendation should be genisoimage" |
| 16:58 Mrfai | MT: Sorry I have to leave. LEt's do this tomorrow |
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| 17:07 meandtheshell | "Do the users need a queueing system?" taken from http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/fai-guide/ch-plan.html |
| 17:07 meandtheshell | What exactly does "queuing system" describe here? |
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