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| 11:19 psibox | can someone explain to me, what 'disk_config end' is supposed to be good for ? |
| 11:20 psibox | also on http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/Howtos there's a dead link to a patched version of setup_harddisks |
| 11:20 psibox | any idea where that version is located now ? |
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| 16:24 sysop | can be a distro or live cd with specific for fai? |
| 16:32 juri_ | sysop: look at fai-cd. |
| 16:32 juri_ | i use it to make distros of my FAI, and have a live-cd on the same cd. |
| 16:36 sysop | thanks |
| 16:36 sysop | for script config files... what language you use? |
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| 16:40 sysop | perl, cfengine? |
| 17:10 juri_ | sh. ;) |
| 17:10 sysop | shell... not the best one, but is an option. |
| 17:24 juri_ | i prefer it. |
| 17:25 sysop | :) ok |
| 17:25 psibox | sh is definitely better than cfengine ;) |
| 17:26 sysop | when? |
| 17:26 psibox | always. |
| 17:26 sysop | it's possible to fai install another fai server... like replicate them? |
| 17:26 psibox | you can install a fai server using fai, yes. |
| 17:27 psibox | you can install any server using fai. |
| 17:28 sysop | like universal machine of Charles babage |
| 17:28 sysop | can you make autonomous system with sh so simple? |
| 17:49 oz_ | sure..it won't be very efficient |
| 17:49 sysop | thank oz_ |
| 17:50 sysop | I think FAI is good to install an maybe configure... but for maintenance? |
| 17:51 sysop | make changes in a hibrid systems with lot of host without reinstall. |
| 17:52 sysop | I know FAI can be used with a running system. but it need something like cfengine for make more |
| 17:54 oz_ | there is also task_softupdate |
| 17:54 oz_ | and personally, I don't mind reinstalling too much |
| 17:55 sysop | but for change an option in for example, a config file of postfix |
| 17:55 oz_ | cfengine |
| 17:55 sysop | but only need this changes in some servers |
| 17:55 oz_ | cfengine, yes :=) |
| 17:56 sysop | yes... I think too. |
| 17:56 sysop | I think FAI and cfengine together |
| 17:56 sysop | is best |
| 18:05 juri_ | i swore by a "never re-install" rule, before i discovered FAI. i still have two machines running that were installed in 2000-2001. |
| 18:06 sysop | and even with a very old installation? |
| 18:07 sysop | if you have a kernel very old, and a libc and other packages that cause conficts |
| 18:08 sysop | it is possible to crash the system on boot? |
| 18:13 juri_ | i used debian back then, and have kept the machines up-to-date. |
| 18:14 juri_ | so, they're very well tuned machines. after that many years of using a machine, there are configs deep in that machine i could never reproduce. |
| 18:14 juri_ | tho; i try. and i stick the results in my fai configdir. :) |
| 18:15 sysop | cool |
| 18:17 sysop | jury_, are you a network admin or have some job in IT? |
| 18:17 juri_ | two jobs in IT, actually. (three?) |
| 18:18 sysop | waaauu... a very busy person. |
| 18:18 juri_ | network/system administrator for a banking technology outsourcing company, and developer/project_team_manager for a walmart contracting company. |
| 18:19 sysop | ooooohhhh |
| 18:19 sysop | and it use debian too? |
| 18:20 juri_ | so, i develop software, administrate systems, administrate networks, and manage small teams. |
| 18:20 juri_ | yes, i'm all debian, all the time. actually, all FAI. |
| 18:20 sysop | :) |
| 18:20 sysop | developer... |
| 18:21 juri_ | i never did an install of the last stable version of debian. i performed FAI installs the entire time sarge was stable. |
| 18:21 sysop | now etch? |
| 18:21 juri_ | i barely know. i'm still installing FAI machines. |
| 18:21 sysop | what do you develop? |
| 18:22 juri_ | automation and banking software. |
| 18:22 sysop | if there is no policies to restrict you to tell me. |
| 18:22 juri_ | actually, i develop most my big stuff based on open source code. you can go download what i do. |
| 18:22 sysop | what language, plataform, ide, do you use? |
| 18:23 juri_ | the banking stuff is usually "one-off", so i don't bother opensourcing it. it'd be useless outside the company i work for. |
| 18:25 sysop | did you need a system junior admin who help you? |
| 18:28 sysop | I think you make FAI install machine for your developers, maybe install system with eclipse or other ide configured yet |
| 18:28 sysop | with all stuff like style rules for your project. |
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| 18:52 sysop | well, see you later. |
| 18:52 sysop | bye bye |
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